New Dichroic

[littlecrowartglass]

Has anyone used the new dichroic that comes on the copper foil?

its VERY thick and im having a little dificulty with it:x

Deb

[R4GlassStudio]

what would you like to know? Have you seen the video on it?

1) score the top of it with a knfe or exacto... just cutting through the coating (easy to do because the copper is think). This way the glass will only pick up a strip of dichro rather than bunch.
2) try using tweezers to scrath off flakes onto a graphit paddle and use that as dichro frit. That may eb the easiest thing to do for you.
Ron

[littlecrowartglass]

I have found it works best for me when i scratch it onto a marver...a little goes a loooooooong way, its like dichroic frit=P~

I think my problem is im use to using the dichroic glass rods and this is soo different, i need more practice i know.

i will post some pics today... some i layed it on too thick i think, reminds me of a heavy foil.

Deb

[R4GlassStudio]

if you run into more questions, Rocio can help you better than I can.
Her e-mail is Rocio@FineArtbyRocio.com

[PolychromeBeads]

Ooooh - this sounds very cool and intriguing. Where do you get it?


Aimee
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[bousky]

This does sound interesting. Up until now I have not heard of the stuff. Who makes it? Where can it be found?

[kittyluv4ever]

It's at fine art by Rocio, here's the link

http://www.fineartbyrocio.com/glass.html

It's at the very top of the page and is $39.99 for a 6 x 12 in. sheet.

[Sherry]

Is there a more detailed/close up picture of the dichro? What color is it? I'm intrigued.

[PolychromeBeads]

Won't the bare dichro burn up or scum in the flame? I know you have to encase it, but even then I've always had problems - like with the dichro on black 'cause you have to apply it dichro side up.


Aimee
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[littlecrowartglass]

its pretty darn resistant to the flame and there is no scumming up like were use to with dichroic glass rods. Ive encased with clear and with transparent colors... on black base , clear base, rubino base, grape base, no scum on any.

[dichromary]

Hi Aimee, love the bead stands I bought. Here is the video on how to use the dichroic on copper:

http://www.glasspalette.com/dichroiccoatedcopperfoil.html

[R4GlassStudio]

It is three times thicker than normal CBS coatings so it turns into a silver rainbow. It does not burn in the flame because of it thickness. It ends up being less than half the price of normal dichro AND your left with a solid copper foil to play with.

[MaryBeth]

I am so glad I found this thread! I was wondering about this product!

For those of you that have used it about how many average sized beads (maybe around 1/2" to 1") can you embellish from one sheet.

I love to experiment with new stuff but I also like to get as much value from my supplies as I can!

[PolychromeBeads]

Thanks Mary - and thanks for the link to the video too!! I definitely think I need some. :lol: Gotta stop spending money I don't have!!!


Aimee
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[littlecrowartglass]

ive been doing the flaking it onto a marver and chopping it up ... i scored a maybe 1/2 inch strip and ive only flaked up about 2 inches of that and i did 10 beads...so you can get alooooooooot of beads out of this sheet that way.

Im getting more color from the transparent i put over it.... I didnt get alot of color from the dichro itself when i used it solid ...its like a high silver sparkly dichro . Id like to see this stuff with more color on the actual dichro. I need to keep practicing.....

[Cabanlet]

I just saw this on their site and was intrigued. Now, I will have to try some. The video was not working though, so this was some good info!
Thanks,
Amy

[bousky]

I live a few towns over from CBS. They don't give discounts unless you spend an enormous amount of money. But I may consider doing a bulk buy if there is interest. Let me make sure they still allow the public to buy direct and what the options are colorwise and such.

Thanks for the link to the video......I must have some.

[Troll Lover]

This looks great! Now I want some too!

[lindag]

Michelle, Pacific Art Glass has really good prices on dichro. They buy huge amounts from CBS and get good discounts that they usually pass on. I don't know if they have this new stuff yet. I ordered some...I wonder how it will fuse? Anyone know?

[bousky]

I was in Pacific Art Glass yesterday and they did not have it. I will compare prices.

[JetAge Studio]

I got mine directly from CBS. Still doing some tests, but you bet it will show up in the new murrini blend I'm making! :lol:

Renee Wiggins

[ellyloo]

OHhhh.
EVILNESS!!

[MaryBeth]

I live a few towns over from CBS. They don't give discounts unless you spend an enormous amount of money. But I may consider doing a bulk buy if there is interest. Let me make sure they still allow the public to buy direct and what the options are colorwise and such.

Thanks for the link to the video......I must have some.


I would be interested in the bulk buy!

[bousky]

I just spoke with CBS, who quoted me $33 per sheet, wholesale. There are no color choices.

It says on their website that their dealers may have better pricing. I called Pacific Art Glass for their pricing, I am expecting a call from John.

[mandalinn]

I just spoke with CBS, who quoted me $33 per sheet, wholesale. There are no color choices.

It says on their website that their dealers may have better pricing. I called Pacific Art Glass for their pricing, I am expecting a call from John.

Cool, I am up for a bulk buy too, this product sounds interesting.

[Mr. Smiley]

I got to play with some of this several months ago when I was out in Oregon. Abe brought it in and we made a mess... :lol: Fun stuff!

[Frit Diva]

I'd be interested in a bulk buy, depending on pricing, etc.

Jo

[honey*bee]

I spoke with Jerry at AGH and they are selling it for $30.41 a sheet if you have a wholesale account. I have one so if any of you can't find a good deal let me know and maybe we can work something out.

[Troll Lover]

If anyone wants to organise a bulk buy, I'm interested as well!

[Moth]

I haven't been this excited about a new product in a long time. I'm in on the bulk buy if one gets going. Otherwise, I'm not sure I'll be able to wait...I might pay full price if it takes a long time for the bulk buy to get off the ground.

[JetAge Studio]

Abe brought it in and we made a mess... :lol: Fun stuff!

It is fun, but I agree with you Brent, it's messy! The stuff flakes off everywhere, despite me being really careful. :lol:

It's a little hard to use it the way I originally thought. I had to take a different approach to using it for my murrini, but in doing so, I made a discovery and thought I would share it. You can make some KILLER sparkly stringer with this stuff! It takes a little while, but if you take a rod of clear of your choice (or any other transparent glass for that matter), heat the end and roll the molten glass in the dichro, then encase that and mash it up, just like making foil stringer, repeat a couple of times to get the right amount of sparkle to your glass blob, then once it's all mixed, pull to your desired size of stringer! It's great for that! It's like, um, Silver 'Goldstone'! Sparkly! I'll see if I can get an image for you ..
:wave:
Renee

[tt4st]

I can't wait to see the "silverstone" pic Renee. I'm interested in getting some to experiment with too!

[playswithfire104]

I am in on the Bulk buy too!

[PolychromeBeads]

I'm not supposed to be spending...

I want some too!! Count me in if there's a buy. :smile:


Aimee
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[Cody_ABR]

You can also go to CBS's website and they have a tutorial. Its pretty intresting.
He is using a glory hole and some hot hot glass.
We got in some of these as samples and messed around with it.
We had some issues, but after some more time, we figured out how to deal with it's temperment.
We were using boro, and trying to wrap it up, but ran into some problems because we didn't get the glass shiny hot!
I was using a CC+ and it tended to blow the unstuck dichro everywhere! It was like snowing dichro!

[bousky]

I spoke with Jerry at AGH and they are selling it for $30.41 a sheet if you have a wholesale account. I have one so if any of you can't find a good deal let me know and maybe we can work something out.

I am happy to organize a buy. Although, let's compare price and see which is the better deal. I have no problem handing this project over to someone else either :-) :-) :-)

Pacific Art Glass is out of stock at this time and do not have a firm price. They said I can count on a 10% discount and if they get a better price they would pass that on. So that would be $29.70 per sheet. I would be paying tax on it. Pacific ArtGlass is in LA county whose tax rate is 8.25%, which makes it 32.00 per sheet. Add the PayPal charge...isn't it 3%? And add postage which would probably be under $2. So I would estimate $34.96 per sheet. The only other thing I can think to add would be an envelope. I would think a padded one would be fine. I get them very reasonably. $35.50 would probably be a close estimation of my cost.

CBS has stated that the product is moving as fast as they can make it. So, there could be a delay in getting the product.

Should we move this conversation to the bulk buy thread.

[bousky]

P.S. I would not object to splitting sheets for people.

[DPete1104]

add me to the bulk buy please....it sounds like it has a lot of potential

Denise

[yoginigirl]

Count me in!
Cindi

[ltsexpressions]

I'm interested also!!!

[kernheimer]

iff anyone would, i would like share post and custums? with you Anouk!
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Eus ( now you showed me how, i'm not affraid of Dichroic anymore)

[lldesigns]

Ron I was on your site and looking to buy some but the shipping came out to $8.75. I was wondering if that was a mistake since the dichroic doesn't seem to be that heavy or big.

[Alison D]

Oh my, I neeeeeeeeeeeed some . Has anyone tried to blow this. The video shows him making a paper weight but not blowing it.

Maybe if I really fritted it up small I could blow it.
Oh I so want to blow ornaments out of this.

Can't help with the bulk buy because I don't use paypal.

[e. mort]

I got to play with some of this several months ago when I was out in Oregon. Abe brought it in and we made a mess... :lol: Fun stuff!

So, it works ok with boro then? Sounds very interesting...

[honey*bee]

Ron I was on your site and looking to buy some but the shipping came out to $8.75. I was wondering if that was a mistake since the dichroic doesn't seem to be that heavy or big.

Try asking for regular mail. AGH has agreed to do this for me and this way it only costs about a dollar.

[Alison D]

Who is AGH?

[squid]

Art Glass House

[bousky]

I have posted this in the bulk buy section. It is at the top of the Garage Sale section.

[lldesigns]

Try asking for regular mail. AGH has agreed to do this for me and this way it only costs about a dollar.

I'll give that a try. I wanted to alert them to this because it might be a mistake and they don't know.

[Silver Moon Lampwork]

I made a focal with it. I'm having a hard time getting used to it. It looks a little like treebark, but I'm going to keep playing with it.

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[woodart]

So, it works ok with boro then? Sounds very interesting...

It isn't dependent on the COE because you are only using the dichroic layer and there for its suitable for any type of glass.

I ordered 2 sheets of it a week back but was told there is a 3 week delay.

BWT I saw a bead made here in Australia this evening that had what my friends and I thought was a solid dome shaped opal floating in the top of a clear bead - it was so like a real polished opal but that for most people would be impossible to detect from the genuine article!!! (true opal would explode in the flame no matter how slowly it is introduced to flame - due to inclusions in the stone which would expand and cause the stone to shatter )

There is just so much potential in this new form of dichro - I have ideas screaming full bore through my mind as I type this!!
Back to the torch!
cHEERS
AInslie aka woodart.

[likes to make glass stuff]

It isn't dependent on the COE because you are only using the dichroic layer and there for its suitable for any type of glass.

I ordered 2 sheets of it a week back but was told there is a 3 week delay.

BWT I saw a bead made here in Australia this evening that had what my friends and I thought was a solid dome shaped opal floating in the top of a clear bead - it was so like a real polished opal but that for most people would be impossible to detect from the genuine article!!! (true opal would explode in the flame no matter how slowly it is introduced to flame - due to inclusions in the stone which would expand and cause the stone to shatter )

There is just so much potential in this new form of dichro - I have ideas screaming full bore through my mind as I type this!!
Back to the torch!
cHEERS
AInslie aka woodart.

Gilson opals can be put in glass. They are man made, but still very pretty. Prettier, in fact, I think than many "real" opals.

As for this dichro, I've got a sheet. I've used it. I'm going to try it with the warm family of transparents soon, and see if I like it more that way. Right now I think it looks a lot like silver foil or big mica flakes, not like what I expect dichro to look like, and I probably won't buy it again unless it comes in colors or something.

[terryl]

Well, I am glad you guys got the stuff to work. I posted on another thread a few weeks ago about problems I had with trying to use the stuff. First of all, it would not come off of the copper by rolling a hot bead across it....and yes I had scored it like the video. I had to heat the bead super hot causing the glass to pick up the dicro but then the glass was stuck to the copper. Secondly, it immediately scummed in the flame. I chunked the stuff to the back of the shop and haven't looked back furious that I spent almost $40 bucks on the stuff. I will try it one more time since others have had some success, but I may have the rest of my sheet posted in the garage sale in a few days at a discount.


Terryl

[Troll Lover]

Well, I gave it a try and it worked well (enough) for me :oops:...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3261396742_45d087f35a.jpg?v=0

The only thing is that you have to encase it quickly, esp, the parts that aren't "stuck" on the bead. Or else it will flake off in the flame.

I actually do prefer "regular" dichroic on glass. I think the foil is very nice, but I prefer the raneg of colors of the original dichroic glass.

[terryl]

Nice bead Anouk......you have inspired me to give it one more try! I will let you know how it turns out. They made it look so easy in the video. Did you find that it came off of the copper easily or did you have to flake it off?


Terryl

[Troll Lover]

I actually had no problem at all. I just rolled my hot bead over it and it came off :). Not sure what the difference is? My bead is hot, but not dripping.

[terryl]

hmmm...wonder if I got a bad sheet? I tried scraping the stuff off but it didn't even scrape off easily. I don't think I will buy another sheet to see if I can get the stuff to come off any easier.:grin:

[Troll Lover]

Have you tried bending your sheet? When you do, the dichroic actually should break and come off in flakes.

[likes to make glass stuff]

Well, I am glad you guys got the stuff to work. I posted on another thread a few weeks ago about problems I had with trying to use the stuff. First of all, it would not come off of the copper by rolling a hot bead across it....and yes I had scored it like the video. I had to heat the bead super hot causing the glass to pick up the dicro but then the glass was stuck to the copper. Secondly, it immediately scummed in the flame. I chunked the stuff to the back of the shop and haven't looked back furious that I spent almost $40 bucks on the stuff. I will try it one more time since others have had some success, but I may have the rest of my sheet posted in the garage sale in a few days at a discount.


Terryl

I didn't try that method. I used my knife to scrape it off the copper and then picked it up from a container. I picked the wrong kind of container, but it wasn't much different than picking up mica-has to be pretty hot to pick up big flakes. I did have it pretty much flame up if it hit the actual flame, so I just rushed to encase it, like with copper mesh. I couldn't marver it to speak of, either.

[sunray]

So, it works ok with boro then? Sounds very interesting...

Eric
Trev used the dichro and the foil in this BORO marble

[e. mort]

That is wierd....cool!

[theglasszone]

Hum...I'm super surprised to hear that some people are having difficulty getting the dichro off the copper - I hadn't even opened the package yet and the dichro literally "shattered" off the copper sheet! It is quite "fly-away" too - like cellophane - so I'm going to try and capture as much of this as I can in a container and try a little of it on a marver. We'll have to see how it goes...this isn't what I was expecting, though.

Anyone else had this happen?

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/CBSDichro1.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/CBSDichro2.jpg

De

[PolychromeBeads]

Wow De - that is amazing! My whole sheet didn't do that, but when I was taking it out of the plastic I bent it ever so slightly and a corner flaked off. The flakes work just fine - so hang onto all those bits!

I have some beads I did with it on Friday, and I'll post as soon as I get time to clean and take pics. I think I like the look of the flakes best myself, so other than being messy I don't think you've got a problem.


Aimee
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[theglasszone]

Wow De - that is amazing! My whole sheet didn't do that, but when I was taking it out of the plastic I bent it ever so slightly and a corner flaked off. The flakes work just fine - so hang onto all those bits!

I have some beads I did with it on Friday, and I'll post as soon as I get time to clean and take pics. I think I like the look of the flakes best myself, so other than being messy I don't think you've got a problem.


Aimee
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Thanks for the input...I didn't even have to open the package - there appears to be a small "breach" in the seal, and almost all the "shreds" have been put into a container:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/CBSDichro3.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/CBSDichro4.jpg

I'm thinking this may just not be my bag...and I'm considering posting them in the Garage to find it a home where someone has the time, patience and space to work with it...

Do you think anyone would want it? I'd send the copper along too...

De

[Baubles by eli]

I love it De, give it a try before you get rid of it. I put a little bit on my marver and work with only small amounts at a time. It doesn't scum at all or burn off, very sparkly!

eli

[bousky]

De I am so sorry to see what happened to your sheet. As I was packing them up I had a few instances where the copper bent and some flaking occurred in a small areas. But that is crazy.

I wonder if you could use it like silver leaf. Get a paper towel wet, I put mine on a piece of marble, then sprinkle the dichro on the wet paper towel. Pick the dichro up with your hot bead.

I am going to call CBS about this tomorrow.

[theglasszone]

Thanks Michelle~~~

I'm wondering if this isn't going to turn out to be a GOOD thing - in that I see some folks are having trouble getting their dichro off the copper sheet - ha, not here!!! In any case, I was feeling sad about it yesterday, but maybe it's a blessing in disguise? I'm gonna give it a try today - and if it is too much of a PITA, I'm going to offer them up.

I appreciate your efforts so very much! I know you worked hard on the BB and I came in at the end...hope I don't sound like a dang ingrate! Nevertheless, it is what it is, and I thought I'd put it out there so everyone could be aware...

I suppose the positive of this is for those who don't want to work with the flakes/shards, BE EVER SO CAREFUL WITH YOUR COPPER SHEETS!!! One bend, or possibly a good "tap" on the side, will ignite the fracturing...and apparently once it starts, there's not much stopping it!

De

[bousky]

DeAnne one other thought I had is to pick up some of the flakes with a gather of clear glass, mix it well, then pull it into stringers.

This is one of my favorite uses of dichro. With the dichro in this form you could get a pretty heavy application of it in the glass.

[theglasszone]

Sounds good to me, Michelle!!! I'm gonna try it...I bought this product especially to use with Boro, so that's what I'm gonna try! I love the idea that you can use this coating with any glass and basically create you own COE-compatible dichro...

Will be sure to post what happens - stay tuned!

De

[PolychromeBeads]

Okay - last Friday I did 3 beads with the new Dichro. Two test beads, and one "real" bead (LOL!).

These are the test beads:
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The first was the bit that fell off when I accidently bent the foil, it's on a seashell base and has been encased. The second is on a black base, and I rolled the bead over the dichro on the foil. Got a lot more dichro! It's cool how it broke up when I encased it too.

This is the bead I made afterwards:
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I had a hard time getting the opalino green hot enough to pick up the bits of dichro. Only a few stuck, but it still looks cool. Couldn't get a decent close-up of the dichro on this bead (need a new camera!) where you can really see the colors.

I think I like this stuff!!


Aimee
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[Shrimp]

So whatcha gonna do with the copper sheet now. That'll be fun to see the results!

[bluhealer]

It looks different than I expected it to, I think I was imagining a smooth layer, not flakes.
I'm thinking I'm glad I didn't get any in Tucson----it was a choice between this and old EDP, and I chose the EDP.

[terryl]

Okay I wanted to be fair about this new product. I finally got some of this stuff to flake off by bending my sheet several times very forcefully.....nothing like the picture posted by someone on this thread a few days ago.....but enough that I could put a little bit on a marver and get a little on my bead. Rolling hot glass across the sheet does nothing, and I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Flaking it off is the only way I could get this to work, but I think the bead is gonna turn out nice. It looks like silver foil, however and not like dicro ( I think others have commented on this as well). I will see how the bead turns out in the morning. Some of the pieces were not stuck down good and got hit by the flame a little bit and I am wondering if it is gonna show any scum.


Terryl

[lavendar420]

I couldn't pick it up off the sheet with hot glass at all. Even scored & slightly frayed at the edges. But the scraps that flake off when the sheet is bent are super cool. I think CBS should offer it in jars like that.

[tikiterri]

Mine just arrived and I'm looking forward to trying it.

[bousky]

I couldn't pick it up off the sheet with hot glass at all. Even scored & slightly frayed at the edges. But the scraps that flake off when the sheet is bent are super cool. I think CBS should offer it in jars like that.

I told them at CBS that they should offer this in jars. I'd prefer not having to deal with the copper at all.

I found the glass had to be extremely hot to pick up the dichro. Since I was making stringers I was able to do that. The flakes were pretty big and but I was happy with the amount of the dichro I was able to get into the stringers. It was suggested by CBS that I chop up the dichro to get the pieces smaller. I look forward to getting the opportunity to try chopping it with a razor blade.

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I am not thrilled with this bead, mostly because of placement of the blossoms. But I am excited about the possibilities of the dichro. The pic doesn't really show it but it is very sparkely and is showing pinks an blues in the dichro. Right now I am regretting taking four classes.....projects are getting in the way!

[terryl]

I am with you guys. Just offer the stuff in jars. The copper is too much trouble. Mine turned out okay. Just like silver foil except without the reaction silver sometimes has with clear. I will see if I can collect some more. I might end up wasting some of it because the little pieces fly away so much, but at least it won't be just sitting around the shop as another useless item.



Terryl

[bousky]

Terry I tried putting it on the wet paper towel, like you do with silver foil, to keep it from flying away. It was still hard to pick it up. But I didn't have that much on the towel and it was kind of all over the place. I will try again after I have chopped and have a bit more on the towel. It did stay in place though!

[gemsinbloom]

Well I have been researching this product and this thread has me a little scared off. The video DOES make it look so easy........

Bump, bump , bump!

Also, if it just gives you the look of silver foil and not dichro then I am not that interested.

Any new updates on this product?

[playswithfire104]

I am with you guys. Just offer the stuff in jars. The copper is too much trouble. Mine turned out okay. Just like silver foil except without the reaction silver sometimes has with clear. I will see if I can collect some more. I might end up wasting some of it because the little pieces fly away so much, but at least it won't be just sitting around the shop as another useless item.



Terryl

Has anyone suggested this to CBS? That would be totally the way to go!!! People have posted about using the copper in beads but I think it is too thick.

[bousky]

I never went back to this stuff. It has turned out to be another unused item hanging out in the studio. For me I think it is the color. I prefer colored dichro.

[gemsinbloom]

Awww that is too bad. How do you purchase your dichro? I am really having a hard time using it in the strip form. I am now considering sheets.

The video of the product made it look so easy and I got excited but I wanted to do the proper research. Thanks for the input.

I never went back to this stuff. It has turned out to be another unused item hanging out in the studio. For me I think it is the color. I prefer colored dichro.

[bousky]

I don't think it is a bad product. I really don't like the silver, which was the only color that was available at the time. I don't know if that has changed or not.

[squid]

I like it ground up - it adds beautiful shimmer. Other than that, meh.

[gemsinbloom]

So break pieces off and smash it like frit? Then roll while the bead is hot? That could be workable for me but ya , I am not interested in just silver..


I like it ground up - it adds beautiful shimmer. Other than that, meh.

[wendbill]

I like it ground up - it adds beautiful shimmer. Other than that, meh.

Yes, me too. looks good ground or in small flakes.

Rolled onto a bead it looks more foil and doesn't shimmer like dichro.

[GlassMigrations]

I ran across this thread and thought this might offer some more insight about the dichroic copper. I bought my first sheet of this stuff a while back and I loved it. It came off the copper very easily. I loved it so much I bought another sheet of it. I went to make another set with the new sheet of dichroic and it was like OMGGGGGGGGGG, this stuff wouldn't come off the copper foil to save my life!!!!! No matter how hot my beads were when rolling across the copper, nothing released onto my bead. I bent the copper, folded it, lanced it with my razor blade, and it only would release tiny flakes. The flakes were very thin and almost see through. The dichroic wasn't the sparkle like the last sheet I had, it was more a sheen. Needless to say I was not a happy camper!! I emailed customer service at CBS and explained what was happening and how extreme the differences were between the two sheets. I wish now I had kept the email, but it basically said they cannot guarantee the dichroic color application will be the same for every sheet. They did allow me to send the sheet that caused the problem back and sent me a new one. Unfortunately however, the new sheet they sent me was worse then the one I sent back to them. Personally the variations are so extreme that I am hesitant about buying it again. The best advice I can offer is to ask the supplier who is carrying the product to do a little test by bending the corner by just a little bit. If they will do this for you before you buy it that would save you alot of grief. If it comes off very easily, in strips, then you know you have gotten the good batch of it. If it only flakes off at the bend, you know that is the batch you don't want. I know this was a long response, but I wanted everyone to know what happened to me and apparently to some other people in this thread. If I knew I could get the right sheet of the dichroic, I would buy another sheet in a heartbeat. Hope this helped.......

[squid]

I grind it in a mortar and pestle :)

[bousky]

I am going to have to try grinding it. I am glad this thread was revived! Maybe the product won't go to waste!

[PolychromeBeads]

I'd like to see what it looks like in a bead when you grind it.


Aimee
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[squid]

Chrissy's champagne and sparkle balls have the ground up copper sheet dichro in them.

[SuzFromOz]

I wonder if this product has changed much over the years. Some of us got free samples at the gathering this year. I haven't tried mine yet, but it is flaking off in the bag, so it doesn't look like I'll have trouble getting it off the copper at least. Anyone else tried this recently?

[PolychromeBeads]

I use it and love it! Even when it flakes. Especially when it flakes.

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Aimee
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