Juno giving me the cold shoulder!

[Rhymnoceros]

so ive been trying to get juno to talk with me and so far this color does nothing for me!! I cant strike it, i cant reduce it, Ive been flameworking extensively for a year -- and Ive never had this much trouble with a glass.

I mean i dont even have this much trouble with cezanne (which bubbles if you even think of the word flame)


Is there something im missing, because when i see this color at it's potential it's beautiful -- but i just cant do it!!

I dont have any pictures but the color never changes from it's transparent pinked-ness that it come from in cane form.

[LisaF]

I can't get it to do anything either.

[Diane (clarus)]

I have only had it since Saturday, so limited experience here, but so far it looks like it's similar to Zeus, with which I do have experience. Apply it, lightly strike it, then encase it. Or add more dots of it over the previously reduced dots.

-Diane

[LisaF]

Thanks, Diane. I was trying to get it to make pretty without encasing.

[SadiesJewels]

Juno? What make of glass?

Sometimes I think I am totally out of touch!

[Hayley]

Juno is TAG 104, Sadie. Amy/AKDesign makes it SING!!! But she does encase it with clear (clear dot over Juno), Lisa. There is a thread Amy started on it . . . do a search . . . it got some working tips.

If memory serves, the more you work Juno, the more amber it gets (instead of the pinks and purples) . . . I tend to work my glass to death so whatever colors I get from Juno disappear when the bead is done! What is a girl to do? ;-)

[Kevan]

Amy, who has fabulous touch with this stuff, told me to try it over other silver colors. Especially Psyche.

Try encasing it over dark colors too.

[Diane (clarus)]

Here is Amy's thread with Juno working tips:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102321

-Diane

[Firebrand Beads]

Hi there! Juno can be a brat sometimes, but I do love her.... yes, what other people said: she is related to Zeus, so a reduction THEN strike will produce more of that blue-purple reduction haze. With both Zeus and Juno, you are essentially striking the reduction haze. Some people avoid the "Juno hates most other clear glasses" problem with dots of more unreduced Juno over the reduced Juno, because melting on a dot of clear or clear color can continue to strike the Juno's reduction, making it more opaque.
Like this:122273
Now, because she is a silvered glass, the reduction will turn Juno amber. It's when you strike that reduction that you get the haze to turn blue/purple and the base comes back toward the pink (or at least a salmony color.) Fish eggs? :-k

Now, the Juno struck on ivory is different.
122189For this look I don't reduce her at all, and when I say "struck" it's because the color does change in the first couple of reheatings. So this bead is made by marvering the Effetre dark ivory into shape, adding swipes of the Juno, and melting them in, then reheating just to marver it back into shape. However, if I heat-and-marver more than, say, three times, I start to burn out the color. If the crazy yellow flare is gone in the flame, so is most of the pink in the glass. I also discovered that if I get the end of the rod really hot before applying to the ivory, that spot stays kinda copper-colored (see the top of the ivory pic? that's where I first touched on.) Where the rods got less heat in the application, I retain more pink, purple, and periwinkle. My second reheating seems to intensify the color a little (striking) but no, I don't work any Juno beads long, hot and hard.

I will say that due to viscosity issues (that's the main problem with Juno and other clear glasses) we have thinned her color a little more in recent batches than I like. Personally, I have gotten around the problems with Juno so the denser batches are not a problem for me. But Paul has been erring on the side of caution. I don't get quite as strong a pink on the ivory with the newer batches. But I do get the nice reduction purple, and it plays better with our clear glass this way.

SO! Please keep trying... she is really a pretty glass. I wish she was a better team player, but I guess Juno will remain a bit of a prima donna. People can always write to me directly with these issues, too -- that's my job!
~jenny@taglass.com

[LisaF]

Thank you all for the great information! I have now read Amy's other thread and am feeling ready to try working Juno again. :waving:

[LisaF]

Beautiful beads, Jenny!

[Carolyn M]

When encasing Juno I've found it best to use Tag clear (awesome glass) or Diamond Clear. All other clears have cracked for me.

[Firebrand Beads]

Yes - what Carolyn said too! I wish Juno was Miss Congeniality, but sadly she's pretty picky about encasements. That's why some folks just use another dot of Juno on top when they want that lens. I am glad you are getting keepers with the Diamond clear, too, Carolyn, my Juno + Diamond beads have survived too, but it's too small a sample to be conclusive. ;-D