Technique Question

[KG Richard]

Hi all. I am wondering if anybody knows and would share how to but those cool oil slick looking clear dots on transparant beads. I have taken M. Barley's class and using his technique doesnt give the same result. I have tried layering silver glass with clear and clear with silver glass with no results. I am sure it is something that is relatively easy...a chemistry issue but I am burned out on trying everything.
There are a ton of people using it so I dont think it is a classified secret however I would be willing to pay for the knowledge.
Thanks loads for your help!

[honey*bee]

could you post a pic of what you are talking about?

[KG Richard]

I guess a pic would help! This one is one Bead Fairy did. I did email her, last week, have not heard. Told her that if she did not want to share it was OK. I will say that many people use this technique so I do not think it is a big secret, just to me! 159857

[Rudy]

I would be interested in hearing the response. Hope you get one!!!

[sislonski]

I guess a pic would help! This one is one Bead Fairy did. I did email her, last week, have not heard. Told her that if she did not want to share it was OK. I will say that many people use this technique so I do not think it is a big secret, just to me! 159857

Not sure if this is the same technique you are looking for, but I sell a tutorial on the rainbow scales technique. It may or may not be what you are looking for.

Just thought I'd add, that there are many techniques out there that many people use in their work that aren't secrets, but it could be the case that they've learned the techniques either in a class that they've paid for or a tutorial that they've purchase. So while it's probably no big secret, they don't always give the information away freely. Some do, some don't.

[theglasszone]

I've been wanting to know, too!

Sheri, I have your tut, but I think this technique is similar but somehow there's a transparency there that seems a bit different from your technique. The "secret" may be in the colors versus the technique...I believe I've seen these in others' beads as well, such as in Post #34 in this thread, bead by David Sivers:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123688&page=2

I'd LOVE to know how to do this...I've just been too chicken to ask!

De

[theglasszone]

K Grace, by the way, have you thought about just asking Bead Fairy? Maybe she'll just tell you direct or (if we're ALL VERY LUCKY!) post here... :)

De

[KG Richard]

Howdy! I did buy your rainbow tutorial, it was fantastic! It just isnt the technique that I am looking for. Your tutorial is very easy to follow, thank you.
Yes I sent a pm to Bead Fairy about the technique as well as a problem I am having with her space murini tutorial. Have not heard back, maybe she is busy.
Hopefully someone out there can help us!

[Starrr]

This is what I do...

Make a base bead, try cobalt or a dark amy, wind on a coil of silver glass, melt in and then add random dots of clear, melt and reduce the silver. You can also reduce the silver and then add the clear dots. Experiment with different colored trans dots, different base colors, combine several silver glass colors, rake after melting, etc. It's all about adding layers and reducing the silver.

[Nicker]

Looks like hobnailing, if you google it you'll find several free tut's and video's.

[theglasszone]

Nicker~~~

Got any links? I googled all sorts of combos using "hobnailing" "tutorial" "lampwork" "glass" etc.; got plenty of sites for Fenton's infamous hobnail patterns and such, but couldn't find any tutorials on this technique!

Any help I'm sure would be appreciated!

De

[2kids&atorch]

I usually use a light colored transparent glass, then a dark transparent silver (reduction) glass, and make a base bead with the light colored glass, then make dots with the silver glass, melt in the dots, then reduce the flame. VIOLA!

[2kids&atorch]

As suggested above, you can also use the reverse (use a silver glass for the base bead, then clear or colored transparent for the dots, then reduce). In any case, it saves money to use a transparent base then silver glass for the surface, whether you plan to cover the base in a silver glass completely or just for the dots. Happy torching.

[theglasszone]

Hum...I was thinking that K Grace was looking more for the effect that David achieved on these gorgeous beads, in this thread, Post #36:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119934&page=2

(I'm referring to the base bead melted-in, background "droplets" effect, not the raised, poked and clear-capped dots. Those I know how to do!!!)

I could be wrong, though! Of course, this is the effect THAT I WANT TO LEARN!!! :)

De

[StellaBlue]

Do you mean like any of these? I used clear over various combos to get these effects.
If this is what you meant, I'll go into more detail.


:) Kelly

Kelly, I don't know if these are what the original poster meant, but they are gorgeous and I, for one, would abso-tootin'-lutely LOVE to hear more about them!

[shawnette]

I guess a pic would help! This one is one Bead Fairy did. I did email her, last week, have not heard. Told her that if she did not want to share it was OK. I will say that many people use this technique so I do not think it is a big secret, just to me! 159857

That effect can be achieved by placing clear dots on top of a silver or reduction glass, then reducing. (As mentioned previously in this thread)

Hobnailing is what you get when you roll your glass across a Holy Roller tool, and I'm positive that that's not what the OP is looking for. Try searching on "honeycomb". It's a popular technique used in marble and pendant making.

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1899522

[glasshouse]

Sorry, I deleted my post after I read DeAnne's. I didn't want to clutter a thread that was about a different technique. I think the effect DeAnne is looking for involves silver leaf and rubino.

[theglasszone]

Sorry, I deleted my post after I read DeAnne's. I didn't want to clutter a thread that was about a different technique. I think the effect DeAnne is looking for involves silver leaf and rubino.

SILLY GIRL!!! PUT IT BACK - PLEASE!!! This is not my thread...so I'm not exactly sure what K Grace is looking for....! Please, please, please put it back...

Maybe I should stay out of it - I'm so embarrassed! I think the more input the better, and I should have stayed quite!

I sure hope you put your bead back in here!!! And please do post your technique - I hope I didn't somehow hurt your feelings, as I didn't mean to infer anything negative - swear!!! I'm gonna PM with an apology, too!

DeAnne (who is trying to remove foot from mouth as I type!)

[glasshouse]

No worries, DeAnne. :) I PM'd Rita with my how-to. The thread looked weird to me with my big pictures! :lol:

[shawnette]

No worries, DeAnne. :) I PM'd Rita with my how-to. The thread looked weird to me with my big pictures! :lol:

You should put it here, too. I'm sure it would be of help to a lot of other people.

[glasshouse]

This was my PM:

Thanks for the compliment. I don't want to clutter a thread that's for a different technique.
I misunderstood the OP's description. For my beads, I apply reducing silver glass, melt in to the
base, reduce the base bead, dot the reduction with clear, reheat in a neutral flame, then reduce
again. The dots end up a different color than the base. It's fun to see what colors show up in
the kiln the next morning. It helps to use good clear and pick off all the scum before you dot.

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:) Kelly

[StellaBlue]

Kelly, thanks for sharing! My "aha" moment.. oooooh, you reduce twice... that's the part I didn't get on my own - d'oh! :D

[tiggybubba]

If its a beadfairy bead then its probably her silver glass flower murrini giving that effect....

[theglasszone]

Leslie...I suspect it is the "window" type of dots on the base portion of Fairy's bead pictured that K Grace is asking about, but to clarify (since I've had an "Open Mouth, Insert Foot" sort of day :( ) I did PM her and asked her to pop in here and clarify! Hum...I think I'm gonna go check Bead Fairy's Tutorial on Space Flower Murrini and see if she has information on making the base bead in there too! That would be totally awesome!

De

[Nicker]

There is a free "hobnailing" tutorial called Honeycomb in the free tutorial section now. It's great info and really simple to do.

[LisaF]

The stripe through the middle of this bead is Triton with small dots of clear melted in, then reduced just a little. Maybe if you made large clear dots the reducing glass would spread out to make bigger circles and the web effect. Does that make sense?
Good luck!

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[GlassyEyedGirl]

I think the Beadfairy's bead looks like Green Envy glass over clear with clear dots, reduced and maybe encased? Excuse my newbie bead here (!) which also has some white swirls underneath the green envy, but kinda like this?

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[KG Richard]

Thanks Lisa, that may be the trick! I will give it a try. Thanks so much, Karen

[Teresa justice]

Thank you to every one that shared. Especially the one that asked the question.
This has been helpful to me who has wondered the same thing , How did they do that?
It never hurts to ask.
thanks for shareing
Teresa justice