Metallic Effect with Rocio/Silvered Glass?

[Bunyip]

I've been playing with soft glass a bit again and I'm having the darndest time getting this effect. I lost my "how to" DVD by Rocio somehow (it's around here somewhere), and while the reactive glass is doing great stuff for me otherwise, I can't get the metallic effect for the life of me.

Maybe I'm using the wrong one for the silver effect? I've tried the Monet, Chagall, & DaVinci, I have the following glass in my collection:

Monet
Chagall
Silver Mist
A smidge of picasso
Waterfall
Davinci 1 & 2
Michaelangelo

[lenora]

I've worked a lot with Picasso which is similar to those blue glasses like Silver Mist and Monet and Chagall. I don't really get metallic effects with that glass. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I have the best luck getting metallic results with glass like Triton or Psyche. Triton holds the surface reduction better for me than Psyche. I bet a lot of the Reichenbach reduction glasses would work great as well. Let me know if you want to try Triton or Psyche and I'll send you a bit of both. :)

[tartanknickers]

If only ever used Silver Mist and it's never given any metallic effects. When I put it in a reducing flame, it produces varying degrees of lovely opaque-translucent greens and blues.

[theglasszone]

Here's some of the "metallic" effects I can achieve with a few of the names you mentioned; I'm working on a Hot Head, so these are "reduction" effects - a gentle, somewhat brief bath in a high-fuel flame achieved the following:

Rembrandt/Miro Silvered Emerald (not on your list):
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/Rembrandt1.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/Rembrandt2.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/RembAlien2.jpg

Kandinsky (not on your list):
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/Kandinski1.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/Kandinski2.jpg

Picasso (on your list):
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/PicassoAlien1.jpg

Silver Mist (on your list):
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Precision%20Testing/SilMstAliens2.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Precision%20Testing/SilMstAliens4.jpg

No "metallic", but I love DaVinci Transparent's wonderful opalesence (not sure which DaVinci you have):
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/DaVinAlien1.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/DaVinAlien2.jpg

De

[Carolyn M]

I'm not sure what effect you are looking for. Is it the slight colour change and iridescence you can get from these glass colours, or the all out metallic effect you can get from some of the Double Helix colours?

[Bunyip]

I'm looking for the shiny, bluish-metallic effect that rocio gets so effortlessly. If you've seen their DVD on working the R4 colors you'd know what I mean... I had a copy. It's lost somewhere.

[Firebrand Beads]

you might try looking at the Northstar/Precision website for some working tips, since most of the colors you mentioned are actually made by Precision.

[PerfectDeb]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/DaVinAlien2.jpg

De

on that last little critter, what did you make his eyeball with?

[theglasszone]

Deb~~~

His eyeball was made with "Rembrandt" over a dot of Hades then capped with clear. If you put the dot of Rembrandt over Ivory, then cap, it looks like this:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/RemBlkBHB1.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/RemBlkBHB3.jpg

Don't forget to reduce a bit before capping with the clear if this aqua-blue-green effect is what you want to achieve.

Also, Chris, have you thought about trying Black Nebula? It gives a great blue-black metallic effect and is easy to achieve with a reduction flame and consistent in results:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Reduction%20Tutorial/DSC01553.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Reduction%20Tutorial/BlackNebulaBHB1.jpg

Just a thought...
De

[Reenie]

Here's the information for all of the Precision 104 Glass. Hope it's not too much to post :-)
Pm me if you'd like me to send it to you as a word document as well.
Good luck with it!!!

Chagall--A light reduction is all you need to get these colors to develop. Turn down your oxygen a bit until you get a small, bushy flame. Pass your work in and out until you get the colors you want. The colors pop almost immediately. Let it cool a bit, then go back to a neutral flame. this color has deeper blues but you can get a bright, metallic blue finish and also have iridescent rainbow in spots, depending on how long it is worked.

Black Pearl-A light reduction is all that is needed to get the amazing colors to pop. Turn down your oxygen slightly until you have a small, bushy flame. Pass in and out of the flame until your achieve the desired results. The colors pop almost immediately. Cool a bit then continue in a neutral flame.

DaVinci Double Amber Purple 2- This color is Van Gogh's younger twin. Work it VERY HOT until it is transparent on the surface. Then cool and watch it begin to turn dark orange or brown. Depending on if and when you encase it, you will get different colors. If you encase it soon after it begins to darken, you will get blues and greens. If you let the dark brown really develop before you encase, you will get more blues and magentas. Depending on how you treat it after you encase, or not, you may get pinks, rose, lavenders, and creams. But you have to get it pretty hot to begin with . Use in a very neutral flame.

DaVinci Transparent - We recommend that you use a neutral oxidizing flame when you are ready for final color development. Reduce multiple times at the back of the flame. The more frequently you do this, the better the color. Want to bring the silver to the surface? Use a more reducing flame.

Garzoni Giovanna - Recommended that you use a neutral flame when melting this glass at the torch. When you are ready for final color development, reduce multiple times and tease the colors out at the back of the flame. The more frequently you repeat this, the better the color. Use a little heavier reduction flame to bring the silver to the surface.

Kandisky Green - This color is like Matisse Red Exotic. It has the same melting characteristics. REDUCE THE HECK OUT OF IT! Trick: The copper color bunes off easily, so you need to reduce and pull of of the flame. You can wave it around to keep it hot, but don't burn it all off. Keep it out of the flame. Encase. Reacts well with copper green, intesnse black and ivory.

Monet Silver Amethyst -Simply reduce to get amazing colors. A light reduction is all that is needed to get these colors to pop. Turn down you oxygen a bit until you get a small, bushy flame. Pass the glass in and out until you get you get the desired results. The colors pop almost immediately. Let it cool a bit and then go back into a neurtral flame.

Picasso Blue - This one likes a lot of reduction heat but you don't overdo it.....Just roll it around in the flame until you see the haze appear. Let it cool a bit, and then go back to a neutral flame. Reduce multiple tiomes and tease the colors out at the back of the flame several times. The more times you do this, the better the color.

Rembrandt - WOW! This color is a beautiful neon green with tones of silver reactions. Work this color in a neutral to oxidizing flame. After final shaping and details are complete, reduce in a soft fluffy flame. This will bring out lots of metallic and lustrous colors. Don't over reduce unless that is the color you are looking for.

Rocio Silver Mist - Recommended to use a neutral oxidizing flame when melting the glass in the torch when you are ready for final color development. Reduce multiple time and tease the colors out at the back of the flame, several times. The more times you do this, the better the color.

Sasha's Silver - Work this color in a neutral to oxidizing flame. This color is really easy to get results from. Heat hot and after shaping, reduce in an out of the flame to get the desired color effect. This color will produce heavy metallic and lustrous tones.

Van Gogh - Work it VERY HOT until it is transparent on the surface. Then cool and watch it begin to turn dark orange or brown. Depending on if and when you encase it, you will get different colors. If you encase it soon after it begins to darken, you will get blues and greens. If you let the dark brown really develop before you encase, you will get more blues and magentas. Depending on how you treat it after you encase, or not, you may get pinks, rose, lavenders, and creams. But you have to get it pretty hot to begin with . Use in a very neutral flame.

Matisse - REDUCE THE HECK OUT OF IT! Trick: The copper color bunes off easily, so you need to reduce and pull of of the flame. You can wave it around to keep it hot, but don't burn it all off. Keep it out of the flame. Encase. Reacts well with copper green, intesnse black and ivory.

Abe's Ivy - Abe's Ivy is a light transparent aquamarine blue color that can yield many hues including metallic blues, copper reds, and sea greens. When reduced, this color can yield earthy reds and browns. Because of its high silver content it will react very quickly in the flame so be careful not to over reduce. To yield other interesting effects, try encasing Abe's Ivy with Diamond Clear or backing it with an opaque color like Bright White or Ivory. This color can be stretched thin, so it is well suited for delicate blown work, stringer application, beads, sculptures and cane work. We recommend use of a neutral oxidizing flame when melting the color in the flame and to achieve the most vivid colors. Wave the piece in the flame to bring out the silver.

[Katie Gee]

Thanks Reenie !! I copied and pasted all this for later reference. I'm starting to use the Silver Glasses more and more now; this will be extremely helpful. :love::love:

[Troll Lover]

Thanks Reenie, that is very helpful! Got lots Precision and I hardly ever touch it...

[Reenie]

Your welcome. hope it helps you get those great colors!!!!

[nancyinvermont]

Hi Anouk, I just ordered your "Making Silver Glass Sing" tutorial; I'm excited to get it and hope that I will be able to make my big stash of silver glass produce more than what it's doing now. I'm so happy to be getting a tutorial from such a pro!!

:love: Nancy

[tt4st]

Thanks Irene! I've been in a slump lately and this might just be the thing I need to fire me up!

De, Your beads are just the cutest ever! I love Mr. Da Vinci with all the swirly colors :)