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terryl
2009-05-06, 9:30am
Anyone out there have any advice on how to apply glass to and how to use a cabochon mandrel? Thanks.

Terryl

klcbeads
2009-05-06, 9:53am
Wow. I'm really out of the loop. I never heard of a cabochon mandrel. I always thought they were made on the end of a punty. I'm sure I could be mistaken.;-)

silverstone6
2009-05-23, 5:47pm
I have made a few cabs on mine. I wind the glass onto the little nub, not to the base of the mandrel. Then I get the glass really hot, and push it onto the base of the mandrel. Then wind more glass onto what I just applied, again not putting it directly on the mandrel base, push down and so on. That way avoids all the little spurs that can form.

Susan

Lorraine Chandler
2009-05-26, 8:58pm
Sounds very interesting, where can I buy one of these cab mandrels??

Thank-you
Lorraine

terryl
2009-05-27, 4:15am
At zoozii's. Here is the link. They are listed under inspirational mandrels.



http://www.zooziis.com/cabochonmandrels.aspx




Thanks,
Terryl

Lorraine Chandler
2009-05-27, 8:22am
Thank-you so much.
Lorraine

Scout
2010-10-31, 11:41pm
I have a bunch of different shapes of mandrels that I make...I had a thread posted here, but it disappeared! I have oval, round, triangle, square...a bunch....I make it a point to not offer something that is already out there...If zooziis has the size you need, get it there...I am the only one I know of who makes and sells all of the different shapes. I think I have about 23 different ones right now. If you want a list or want to buy some, then PM me. They are $15 per mandrel plus shipping.

Scout
2010-11-01, 12:12am
okay, I just wrote a mini tut, and the system kicked me off, then erased it....argh...let me copy and paste the one I include with all of my shipments.....



Cabochon Mandrel Instructions


Cabochon Mandrels are fun and easy to use. Many shapes and sizes are currently available, and new shapes are often on the horizon! The creative uses for a glass Cabochon are endless and include everything from beading to bezeling. Unlike standard bead mandrels, cabochon mandrels are designed to withstand heat and can be used over and over again. They can last for years if they are properly cared for.

Parts of the Mandrel

Mandrel Handle, Table Face, Back and Shoulder, Nib.

Applying the Bead Release

The first step in using the Cabochon Mandrel is to apply bead release. Dip the face of the Cabochon Mandrel in bead release, coating the entire Table Face and at least half of the Table Shoulder. While holding the mandrel upside down in an open container, twirl the Mandrel between the palms of the hands. The centrifugal force will create a smooth surface with the bead release. Let the release air dry completely before use.

Applying Glass to the Cabochon Mandrel

Hold the Table Face towards you and heat the surface thoroughly until it begins to glow. Apply the glass in a circular pattern around the Nib until the Table Face is covered completely all of the way to the Table Shoulder. Try not to get glass on the Table Shoulder.

Tip – While working in the flame, diligently continue to keep the Table Shoulder warm. This will prevent lifting of the glass.

Annealing

Follow the same annealing schedule you would normally use for a thick piece of glass or large bead.

Removing the glass cabochon from the Table Face

While holding the Mandrel Handle “gently tap” the back corner of the Table Shoulder multiple times against a hard surface. The glass Cabochon should loosen on its own and should fall off or can be removed by hand with a twisting motion. If the Cabochon does not loosen the first time, continue tapping until it separates.

Cleaning the Cabochon Mandrel
Once the glass Cabochon has been removed, a residue of bead release will remain on the Cabochon Mandrel. This can be removed with a wire brush that can be purchased at any hardware store. Although it is okay to wet the Cabochon Mandrel with water during cleaning, it should never be soaked. Once the Cabochon Mandrel is cleaned, it should be dried thoroughly.

Questions/ Comments? Email Scout from Handford Glass and Enamel Tools

Scout@dreamworksmetal.com

Scout
2010-11-01, 12:22am
I hope the instructions help! Please feel free to PM me or post here, I just saw this tonight! also, there is a thread with some pics of cabs made on my mandrels...let me see if I can find it...

try this

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164417&page=2

jhana
2010-11-01, 12:36am
Wow. I'm really out of the loop. I never heard of a cabochon mandrel. I always thought they were made on the end of a punty. I'm sure I could be mistaken.;-)
You're not mistaken. You can make them freehand without a mandrel by smashing a blob of glass flat onto graphite and puntying that to work it ;-)

glass obsessed
2010-11-01, 7:16am
Scout why do you think the cab should never be soaked? This does not make sense to me.

Scout
2010-11-20, 6:34pm
well, you can definitely soak it if you want to..The instruction sheet was written originally by Pam, who was one of the people who got me started with making the cab mandrels. I still need to edit it, I was just posting it there for some basic information, I guess I missed the "never" soak it part. So, to clarify, and make sure that LE viewers receive good information I would correct that to: Absolutely soak it if you need to, just be aware that there may be traces of minor surface rust if it is soaked too long. This is because even food grade stainless steel has some "steel" in it. So, it is not faulty material, it is simply a trait of stainless steel. If anyone has further questions, or need further clarification, please let me know.
Thanks!!

Frit Diva
2010-11-20, 9:20pm
You can absolutely make some great off-mandrel cabs on punty's! There used to be a wonderful tut on striped cabs put up by LonerP, but I can't find it now. Maybe she will pop in and share it with us....

There's also some lovely cabochon inspiration here:

http://lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164417&highlight=cabochon

I'll be happy to answer any questions about cabs, as well. Feel free to PM me!


Jo