silver reactions in spectrum 96 - do they exist?

[lunesse]

I have a project this weekend that is using 96 glass. I don't use 96. I use Bullseye.

I am looking for colors in 96 that react with silver the way nougat, french vanilla, etc., do in Bullseye, or silvered ivory in the 104's. Or how turquoise can react.

Is this possible? How? What do I need, or am I SOL? What happens if you put silver leaf on 96, just sits there?

[shawnette]

I have a project this weekend that is using 96 glass. I don't use 96. I use Bullseye.

I am looking for colors in 96 that react with silver the way nougat, french vanilla, etc., do in Bullseye, or silvered ivory in the 104's. Or how turquoise can react.

Is this possible? How? What do I need, or am I SOL? What happens if you put silver leaf on 96, just sits there?

Pretty much. I've tried it with every "Ivory-like" 96ish color and none react the same way as Ivory or French Vanilla. Used in small quantities, though, you can use silvered Ivory on 96. (NOT on Uroboros / Spectrum96, though.)

[lunesse]

why not on spectrum? Interesting.
I have some old reichenbach and zimmerman frit that reduces, which is 94-96, thought I might try that to add SOME interest...

[squid]

I don't think Spectrum/Uroboros have any lead in them like the other ~96 furnace glasses do, so they are not "tolerant" of different COEs.

[lunesse]

That's pretty interesting, I never knew lead was an ingredient that would lend to tolerance. Hm. So I shouldn't even try my Richenbach and Zimmerman teeny bits of frit I have, that reduce, if it is System 96?

I just talked to Spectrum and they said they had an ivory that had sulfur, and their oranges, reds, and ambers did, and might react with silver.
*boggle*

[Elizabeth Beads]

I think you can use small amounts of silvered BE on 96 Coe glass. I believe if the lower Coe is on the surface, you have more forgiveness, just as you can use 96 frit on 104, but not so much the other way around. According to OCR you can use up to 20% 96 on the surface of 104, so I'd give the silvered BE a try.

[squid]

That's pretty interesting, I never knew lead was an ingredient that would lend to tolerance. Hm. So I shouldn't even try my Richenbach and Zimmerman teeny bits of frit I have, that reduce, if it is System 96?

I just talked to Spectrum and they said they had an ivory that had sulfur, and their oranges, reds, and ambers did, and might react with silver.
*boggle*

The Reich and Zim have the lead, so they are "stretchy" - and since they are almost the same COE as System 96, go great with it. I would not use Sys 96 with any 104 though :)

[lunesse]

Woohoo! Yeah, 96 only. I am going to spend a day in a hot shop and they have 96, so it's gonna be strange. But fun!

[shawnette]

That's pretty interesting, I never knew lead was an ingredient that would lend to tolerance. Hm. So I shouldn't even try my Richenbach and Zimmerman teeny bits of frit I have, that reduce, if it is System 96?

I just talked to Spectrum and they said they had an ivory that had sulfur, and their oranges, reds, and ambers did, and might react with silver.
*boggle*

They may have something in sheet, but not in rod. I have all of the rod colors, except the ones that just came out and they only have 1 ivory (Opal Almond) and it does not react with silver. The reds turn black, but I don't think that's the effect you're going for.

You can use as much of the Reichenbach, Zimmerman, Kugler, Gaffer, Caliente, etc. as you want. That's one of the reason I switched to 96. It's completely compatible with the furnace glass (in theory. I haven't had any incompatibility issues whatsoever.) And Uroboros clear and black are the BOMB!