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torchie
2006-02-22, 9:54pm
I am trying to find an oxygen concentrator on ebay as cheap as I can get it.
I have no idea what I am looking for. So are there any tips you can give me.
What brand do I not buy? What am I supposed to be looking for here?
I have decided to go with a mini cc for a torch so what do I need guys.
Ruth

Hothead Beads
2006-02-23, 1:58pm
I purchased a devilbliss on ebay from hobbiesrus for 250.00 plus 50.00 shipping. I thought this was pretty reasonable, and it is working great with my mini cc. I have only used soft glass though. I have read where you need 2 oxy cons for working boro.
Check out this thread for the differences in oxy cons http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11112
Good luck

IF-Designs
2006-02-23, 2:16pm
If you can find a companion 590 those are great...they put out a lil more psi than some of the others but i will warn they are VERY heavy and heavier than alot of the others to.

Justin L
2006-02-23, 4:51pm
There are a wide range of concentrators out there. Heres is a quick shakedown of what you may be able to buy:

Assuming all concentrators are rebuilt properly:

-Airsep Newlife: Last about 12k hours. Recent updates to the machine have made it a pretty good contender, and they run pretty good. 6-7 PSI is normal.

-Invacare Mobilaire 5: Last between 20-25k hours. Many many HEPA filters to keep the system very clean. Sieve beds are very very resilient and hardly ever go bad. Put out mid 90% o2 at all flow rates for a very long time. Factory PSI is 5 or 6. Quiet machine.

-Healthdyne Alliance: Lasts about 20k hours also. Good filtration. Sieve beds are very resilient. WHISPER quiet! 96% purity at 5LPM is very common. Factory is 5 or 6 psi.

-Devilbiss MC-Series; Solairis 505/515- Last about 20k hours also. Great filtration, pretty quiet. Good purity. These machines chug along at 8-9PSI from the factory with no problems whatsoever.

Respironics Millenium: When you get one that works, they are good...for about only 8k hours. "Fewer moving parts" doesnt always mean reliability. There is a reason they are on ebay for $100 AS IS. They are pretty quiet. 6PSI output pressure.

Unless you buy a new concentrator, these are the " main contenders" for used oxygen concentrators now. Anything else you may find, ask the seller all the same questions you just asked and you *should* be able to get an intelligent response if they service the equipment.

Also, and if you want to take ANY guesswork out of the purity your concentrator is putting out, get one with an oxygen monitor (OCI/OPI). If the "Normal Oxygen" light is on, you know it is maintaining at least 87% oxygen! Unless it has the "OCI" feature, no series of beeps, clicks, wooshes or anything else from a standard concentrator will let you know the purity is good, unless there is a decent warranty and they stand behind their work.

Ive read a lot on here that a concentrator doesnt have as much "oomph" as tanked oxygen because they dont put out the same purity. This statement is true. Tanked oxygen is 97.8% pure. An oxygen concentrator that has been PROPERLY rebuilt, will put out around 95% oxygen at 5 Liters Per Minute. Not a huge loss at all!! If you have a concentrator that is running "ok" at 3 or 3.5 LPM, bump it up to 5LPM. If there is a noticeable loss in torch power, its probably because the concentrator isnt operating properly at high flow rates like it should. Once you get it running properly at 5LPM, you will never look back.

I hope this helps you with your search!


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