Does anyone known the annealing temps for CiM glass??

[Lisi]

I've looked through pages and pages, and I can't find anything specifically for annealing temps of the CiM glass. I did a search for "annealing Creation is Messy" and I get back annealing for everything. Sometimes I really despise the way the search on this forum works, sorry!

I just bought a bunch of it, and plan to make beads with 100% CiM, so I would like to know the annealing temps. I think I remember reading somewhere that they were a lot higher than Moretti, like in the boro range!

I went to the CiM website and didn't see any info on annealing there, so did I miss something?

Thanks in advance! :)

[Lisi]

Just tried a search again for "annealing CiM" and came up with 20 pages. I click on on a few of these pages and I see "annealing" here and there.

Is there a chart somewhere?

[Sue in Maine]

http://lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25317&highlight=introducing+color+it*+messy+glass

This was the original thread introducing Messy Colors. I haven't read it thru in forever but maybe there is a schedule or link in this thread.

Sue

[Lisi]

Thanks Sue, for looking for me! :)

I had just found it before I opened your reply!

[Hayley]

Here you go:

Sorry for my late reply. Sometimes I subscribe to a thread but I don't consistently receive email notifications. (If anyone knows why, please let me know how to fix this.)

I’ve attached the annealing ranges for Messy Colors that we have tested to date. Creation is Messy scientifically tests annealing temperature ranges for each color separately to provide accurate and complete information to our customers. We hope that the annealing chart will help optimize your working environment.

We recommend your target annealing temperature should match the color with the highest temperature as shown in the chart, or the other manufacturer’s highest temperature, whichever is highest.

Our testers all successfully annealed their test beads at the standard, advertised 920-968° F range with the exception of Cirrus, Halong Bay and Peacock Green. Artwork incorporating any of these three colors needs to be annealed at the higher temperature range of 970 to 1090° F. We are working with our chemists to find out whether there is a way that we can lower the annealing temperature without sacrificing the requested working properties of these three colors.

It is important to us that you can use Messy Color freely along with other 104 glasses. We are also working on a method to provide better information about how each of our colors works so that as we introduce new colors to your palette you will be able to use them in conjunction with other 104 colors. We are continuing our investments in describing the working properties of Messy Color and will keep you posted as we make progress and discoveries.

Thanks for your interest in Messy Color. As we understand this issue can be complicated, please feel free to contact me directly at any time with questions.

Kathy

http://lampworketc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1152272&postcount=48

This is an old post tho so I don't know if CiM has worked out a lower annealing temperature for the translucent glass.

[Lisi]

If I'm reading the posts correctly, it's stated that the range for most of the colors falls between 920-968?? I guess I should quit worrying then. ;)

[ammaws]

I anneal my CIM at 950 and have never had any problems with it.
If you email Kathy, maybe she can send you an annealing schedule. She did send me one along time ago, but I'm not sure if I can find it. It also wouldn't cover any of the colors for the past 12-18 months.

[kandice]

I garage at 960 and anneal at 950 - I haven't had problems with the majority of CiM 104 colors. The only exceptions are a few of the translucents - Peacock, the old Cirrus and Halong Bay were persnickity, but since I make smaller beads, I haven't had many problems. If you use a lot of silver glasses or make larger beads, more care is needed, I think.

[GlassGalore]

Lisi, from all I've read (and all the CIM I've used), there are only a couple particular CIM colors that need to be annealed at higher temps than typical 104. Easy peasy. ;)

[SharonP]

I keep my kiln at 970 full time, and have never had any problems with CIM, Effetre, Vetrofond, or Double Helix...

*s*

[ArtcoInc]

This was compiled by lots of people here on LE:

http://www.artcoinc.com/glass_specs.pdf

Malcolm

[gemsinbloom]

I never change my kiln settings no matter the glass oops!

I am about to go on a cim diet too and I am quite excited at the prospects.

[Lisi]

Thanks everybody for your very helpful input! :D