Source for this glass rack? [Archive]

Just Nancy

2006-03-06, 7:02pm

Within about the last 6 months I saw an ad for this style of glass rack. It was probably in a bead magazine, or a stained glass magazine (like GPQ). I think someone on Wet Canvas was going to look into having them made to sell. Obviously I have no clue, if I can afford one but I'd really like to know more about them.

I've looked and looked but can't find it. I've tried to google search but don't seem to know the right words. :shock:

Anyway, I hope this picture links:
http://www.chameleonartglass.com/image/10484629_scaled_268x358.JPG

Nancy

McDuck

2006-03-06, 7:06pm

oooh nancy i like that one too...drools

jaychantell

2006-03-06, 8:08pm

Ooooooooooo nice rack!

Vickie

2006-03-06, 9:13pm

I think it was RichSantaClaus on WC that was looking into something like that. Is it acrylic?

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 5:29am

The one I saw in the ad said acrylic. This one was from a supplier's web page.

I stayed up till 11:30 last night just looking at ads. I've still got a bunch of magazines to go through, but I'm beginning to think it was a dream. :(

Glass Allure

2006-03-07, 7:00am

I think it was RichSantaClaus on WC that was looking into something like that. Is it acrylic?

The update in his thread says that they are $95 but he is looking for a new supplier but that was months ago. I would love to find these racks somewhere!

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 7:06am

Oh crud. I could have justified $95. Guess that's what I get for not going to WC any more. Wonder if he's registered here. I'd write him if I had contact info. :-k

I may have to finally accept the new (months old) user agreement at WC and see if I can find out anything.

Thanks.

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 7:30am

I wrote him. I'll post if I learn anything.

I'm tired of searching and finding fishing rod holders, acrylic holders of you name it, and anything else that isn't glass storage. I don't have the connections to see about having one made (or many). I sure hope he's making progress or can direct me to someone who is.

I'm off to search my magazines more.

I'll post later.

IF-Designs

2006-03-07, 7:52am

Nancy rich santa clause is a user over there still not sure if he has ventured over here yet or not....but ive seen him tooling around wc. Have your tried calling the place who posted the picture? Maybe they could tell you where they had it built.

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 9:21am

Karin,
Duh. That would be obvious, huh. I'm off to my torch with new glass and tubing from JoDel glass. Gotta melt some of it. :)

I'll call when I take my first break.
Nancy

BrakerBeads

2006-03-07, 11:46am

Let me know too!

I would love a setup like this....I don't even know where you'd go to custom order an "acrylic" piece of storage. any ideas? What do you look under in the yellow pages? If I knew where to look, I'd check my local area for a custom dude to make it. It'd be a bear to ship it.

Nancy B in IL

Cosmo

2006-03-07, 11:52am

Rich is a member here now. Send him a PM.

I have worked with some acrylic manufacturers in the past who would be capable of doing something like this, but most of them have minimum orders of 250 pieces...

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 2:10pm

Chad,
Thanks. I'll try to figure out how to write him.

And 250 for a minimum order. :jawdrop: Um, that might become a problem. I've got the space to store them, but I'm thinking I'd want to know several were spoken for. :-k (My husband would freak if he knew I was even considering an order like that.)

Nancy

edit~ I found the members section and wrote him. :) If I learn anything from him, or other sources I'll be sure to post for those interested.

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 5:19pm

I've heard from Rich. He said the best price he has found is $82 per rack and that he's been looking for 2 years. :(

I would have considered paying $90 for a ready made rack, but at $82 he'd obviously need to add on $$ to cover his risk and make a buck. I can see why he's looking for a lower cost.

He said if he finds a supplier he'll post at Wet Canvas.

I'm back to my magazines for the next little bit, still hoping to find the ad. After all, the kiln is ramping down. Not much to do while I wait for my beauties to come out in the morning. :)

Cosmo

2006-03-07, 5:41pm

Hopefully he'll post here too. I'm banned on Wet Canvas...

Glass Allure

2006-03-07, 5:44pm

Hopefully he'll post here too. I'm banned on Wet Canvas...

Ooooohhhhh...your bad.:badgrin:

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 5:46pm

Chad,
Yah. I'm hoping either he posts here also or someone else. I'm not banned but haven't ventured over there for months until today. It about killed me to accept the new user agreement so that I could pm him.
Nancy

Cosmo

2006-03-07, 5:48pm

Ooooohhhhh...your bad.:badgrin:

Yeah. The worst part is I was banned because of my signature. The same one I have here...

Just Nancy

2006-03-07, 5:58pm

Chad,
You bad boy. (I of course have those things blocked, now I know why. :) )
Nancy

Glass Allure

2006-03-07, 5:58pm

Yeah. The worst part is I was banned because of my signature. The same one I have here...

OMG!!

Oooh...looky...I'm a rebel too!

botree

2006-03-07, 6:29pm

could be acrylic fence posts cut to length and fastened together with silicone cement. I used 2" dia pvc capped on one end and built a box to hold them in place. Seems Tink may have shown something like this.

loco

2006-03-07, 8:09pm

This glass rack is made by S & W Plastics. if I recall they are in (or at least near Ontario Airport) Ontario CA. It was a custom order by Rich. I just got off the phone by him. So if you want one you may want to contact them: http://aisle.c-store.com/cgi-bin/rs/DisplayAddr.cgi/Id/swpla0

Cosmo

2006-03-08, 6:49am

What is the actual size of the rack? I mean, are we looking at one rack in that photo, or two or three stacked together?

If it's one, for $90 or $100 that would still be a good deal. Espeically for me, since it would be going in our studio.

BrakerBeads

2006-03-08, 7:36am

I'd take one....but I need more info...size, cost.....tell that dude to get a website and put in a paypal button! LOL!

Nancy B

ChristyPhelps

2006-03-08, 7:37am

The rack is nice, but MAN! I would love to have that much glass!!! Kinda made my heart start pounding!

Cosmo

2006-03-08, 7:46am

The rack is nice, but MAN! I would love to have that much glass!!! Kinda made my heart start pounding!

You should see our basement. It's starting to look like that. So far we've ordered about 40 pounds of glass, and getting ready to order more. We're trying to stock up before our shop gets open...

Just Nancy

2006-03-08, 7:53am

I don't remember the specifics Rich listed on WC. I presume his concern is adding profit to the $85. I do seem to remember his was 18" deep.

This picture wasn't Rich's. It was from a website. I'll write them and ask. I've also been writing fabricators. I was thinking depending on price, a unit that held like 48 colors and could be stacked. That way people starting out could have storage and people with an addiction could stack them. :lol:

I'll let you know if I learn anything.
Nancy

Just Nancy

2006-03-09, 6:22am

If you search for the right thing something similar is fairly available. Except it is a a 12x12 unit with 16 3" squares for the minimum price of $82 (plus a $10 fee if you only order one) and shipping. Other places have them for more. No sign where they are actually made to see if anyone can make them smaller than the 3" holds.

It would take a bunch of units to do the job at that rate. :(

Just Nancy

2006-03-09, 8:23am

I'm still thinking 3" holes are too big. Unfortunately anyone interested may have that as their only option. Here is my first response from 2 days of e-mails.

"This item is laser cut. The computer would have to be reprogrammed and the cost would not be economical."

I asked if it could be produced and for any requirements that would need to be met. (Minimum order, etc.) Here's hoping someone else at least specifies how many it would take for them to be willing to reprogram their computers. But, I'm still guessing it will be too costly, or Rich would have posted his for sale.

richsantaclaus

2006-03-12, 9:26pm

Hi guys...lol. I had the racks made for me and I am not selling them as I tried to get more made and they wanted $82.50 each! I felt it was too much to pay for glass storage. For the past 2 years I have been looking for another place that would make them for, say $50 each but I have had no luck as of taday. I never has intentions of selling them like a store... gotta just LOVE rumors. I promiss that IF I find someone that will make them I will post it here and over on WetCanvas so all of us might benefit in the glass storage area.

Each rack I had made has 6 openings aross and 6 openings down (making 36 openings...lol) that are all 18 inches deep. Each opening is 1" tall and 2" wide. I originally got 6 units and the picture is 3 on top and 3 on the bottom. I have had a 35' by 25' workshop/storage building built and have them 2 across and 3 down in a custom made cabinet for some of my glass.

I hope this post helps.

Rich

catladybj

2006-03-12, 11:03pm

Yeah. The worst part is I was banned because of my signature. The same one I have here...

OK, I have to ask....what is wrong with your signature???

Bonnie

Glass Allure

2006-03-13, 10:08am

They have a problem with pics and logos in the sig line or some stupid rule like that!

richsantaclaus

2006-03-13, 3:01pm

I don't think the rule is "stupid" but it is a rule that if one wants to participate, they need to follow. There are many rules that people think are "stupid." One has choices in life and I feel must try to be positive about situations.

If I want to join a bowling league that has rules I don't like, I don't join that one and find another one that I can deal with. I guess that's why LE started with their own rules.

I like BOTH groups because of the positive people that help me and others and I like that ALOT! I enjoy reading the posts because I learn from them and get other's opinions about stuff. That makes life interesting - learning from others and thinking about things that I never thought of before.

I like Chad and will support him all I can despite what others say. My problem is that people make choices that I might not agree with - with several emails to some people that will not change their minds, well, maybe it is better that they are not part of a certain site - who really knows in the end.

I may like those little dice hanging from my mirror but the police don't. If I get a ticket and I must face the rules of the road when I go to court. I made the choice to put them there in the first place so I must suffer the consequences. See what I am trying to say? I hope so.

May the creative gods of glass be with you all..lol!!!

If anyone needs to see the rules of the signature at WC.... just let me know and I'll assist you in your knowledge in this area. I am sure Chad can help you here in LE too - he's great!!!

Steph'sBeadCorner

2006-03-14, 8:13am

OK, I have to ask....what is wrong with your signature???

Bonnie

fyi - One of his signature blocks is advertising classes - which means it's a business and businesses are not allowed to advertise for free and they have their own forums.

Tanya

2006-03-14, 10:01am

I don't see the original picture posted, but Arrow Springs carries glass storage racks made out of square PVC tubing. It's called a glass rod rack. It's a little hard to find because it's listed under glass holding tools. The prices seem pretty reasonable, but I hate to think how much it would cost to ship them. From their web site:

GLASS ROD RACK
1-5/8" Holes X 12" Depth .. $45.00; 1-5/8" Holes X 17" Deep Depth .. $50.00
2-1/4" Holes X 12" Depth .. $60.00; 2-1/4" Holes X 17" Deep Depth .. $65.00
The glass rod rack holds glass rods, stringers, strips and even tools. The rod rack is made of PVC tubes bound together with a stainless steel strap and back. The smaller rack's holes are 1-5/8" square and arranged six wide and four tall, for a total of twenty-four holes. Its outside dimension is 7" tall, 10-1/2" wide and either 12" or 17" deep. The larger rack has twenty-five 2-1/4" square holes that are arranged five wide and five tall, for a total of twenty-five holes. Its outside dimension is 12" tall, 12" wide and either 12" or 17" deep. Their modular design allows for easy stacking. The 12" depth rack is ideal for 1/3 cut Moretti rods or any rods 16" or shorter. The 17" depth rack is ideal for 1/2 cut Moretti or full length borosilicate colored rods or any rods 22" or shorter. Custom sizes and configurations available.

Tanya

2006-03-14, 10:02am

Come to think of it...might not be too bad to ship...hmmmm...

richsantaclaus

2006-03-14, 9:49pm

So I see no one wants to comment on my last post - that's ok...lol

I am going to try to help you all find reasonable priced quality storage things.

Have fun all.

Glass Allure

2006-03-15, 9:57am

So I see no one wants to comment on my last post - that's ok...lol

I am going to try to help you all find reasonable priced quality storage things.

Have fun all.

No one is interested in getting in to an old news WC debate with you.

Tanya

2006-03-15, 12:30pm

Rich - I didn't comment to begin with because I am SO not involved. I switched from Wet Cancas to LE for completely unrelated issues. I, personally, just find LE easier to navigate. I don't currently have time to peruse more than one forum, so it's LE. Really nothing personal. As to whether or not the rules are stupid... I suppose it depends on your point of view. I don't have a business signature I can put under my name in any case. When I get one, I'm sure I'll want it under my name. If I value WC enough to use it, I'll have to abide by their rules...or get banned. Hmmm...I've never been banned from anything before - except when my 9th grade geometry teacher kicked me out of her class for poor behavior. Does that count???

Meanwhile, I can't wait to hear about inexpensive and workable glass storage solutions! I currently have a literature rack I ordered. The slots are all about 9" wide, so I have to segregate the glass. I think it's 8 slots by 8 slots (not in my studio right now to count.) It's not the best solution, but it's working for now. Problem is, now that I'm into boro I have a whole bunch more glass to store. I've been thinking of introducing postal mailing tubes into the slots so I can fit more colors in, but enough is enough!

richsantaclaus

2006-03-15, 3:24pm

KristyN

2006-03-16, 9:26am

You know what has worked for me with glass storage is the white, wooden laminate shoe holder from Target (but have see it other places like Lowes, maybe Home Depot...storage type area of stores).

I seem to recall them being about $ 30, and I stack them on top of each other. It's 5 rows by 3 columns so to speak.

I like it because...if I can't see it, I don't have it. When I had my glass neatly stacked in metal roller drawers, out of site, out of mind. I like seeing the glass, knowing what I need to reorder, having the Morett, Bullseye, Lausha, Uroboros and Northstar and Glass Alchemy separated. Sigh, I know, I know.

I'll try to post a picture of it here.

Plus, I get inspiration when I go to the studio and see the colors and go..."Hmm, I wonder what X color and Y color would look like together?"

- Kristy20602:)

Tanya

2006-03-16, 9:32am

It looks great! I like the white because the colors show up so well. My literature rack is yucky brown. I'll look into those - thanks! Hmmm...wonder how many I'll need?

KristyN

2006-03-16, 11:04am

Tanta, I stacked mine "vertically" because I'm having to use that narrow corner. You could stack them horizontally, but be sure to think about increased weight and structural stability (think Humpty Dumpty and glass falling) and maybe adding some support if really loading them up.

"How many should you get?" You know better than to ask fellow glass addicts how many you should get...we're always buying MORE glass and NEED more room!:lol:

Just Nancy

2006-03-17, 5:19pm

Think whatever you need to think Michelle... it's ok with me...lol!!! But at least have the courage to be open minded. I was insulted to find out that anyone thought I wanted to make a profit selling the storage units - rumors are NOT nice!!!!! I simply presented MY units and after SEVERAL emails asking me about them, I went looking for a better price for US!!!!! You know, to HELP others... so there ya go girl!

Tanya - I agree, there's NEVER enough room for our addictions...lol!
Wait, I never meant to imply you were trying to profit. Just that if you chose to you should be able to mark them up for your efforts.

I don't have any means to report the sales tax and such if I wanted to turn it into a money making venture. I will also pm you off the board. I didn't see this thread got moved and continued.

I'm more than willing to send you my contact info and see if you can work out something with this company. I very much feel a little out of my league with all the details.

Just Nancy

2006-03-17, 5:27pm

Rich.

Again, I apologize for phrasing my assumption to sound critical. I'm finding people might be interested in spending $80 for storage. When I discussed the price you were quoted with my husband he reminded me you might want to actually make a profit. I realized he could be right, you could have a business, or could have wanted to start a business. Then we were thinking the $80ish plus profit (typically what, double) would put them way out of most people's budget.

I should not have speculated on your reason for thinking that your quoted price was too high. I wouldn't have written you off the board only to insult you on the board. I'm just not like that.

Probably digging a deep hole.
Nancy

PaulaD

2006-03-17, 7:47pm

Hey Chad,
Did they ban you or just ask you to remove it?
Paula

richsantaclaus

2006-03-18, 12:09am

You guys are too nice! I plan on going back to the people that made my units and plead my case to them to see if they will reduce the $82.50 each that they want to make more and I'll post what my results are. I want a dozen more for myself (yes, I collect MANY rods of glass too...lol). I have Easter vacation soon so let me see what I can get for us from them. Maybe if I guarantee the need for several units I can get a deal from them and pass it along to you guys too. Sound ok to you guys?

Just Nancy

2006-03-18, 6:15am

Rich,
Works for me. :) We may as well order what we can from one source.

Nancy

ChristyPhelps

2006-03-18, 10:43am

Hey Rich, I'm interested, too if you can get a quantity discount. I'm also interested in the rack you have on your site that holds paints or something!

(center bottom picture - http://www.alittlebizaar.net/store.htm)

That looks like it has some terrific and accessible frit storage potential!

zoomerpop

2006-03-18, 8:26pm

Hi all,
I am new here and just learning how things work on this site.
I also am fairly new to lampwork. I found a great storage system for my glass at Harbor Freight. I have a photo but haven't figured out how to get it on the thread yet. If someone can tell me I will post the photo.
Anyway, the metal unit is 3' wide,2' high and 12" deep. three shelves high
with 8 storage bins on each shelf for a total of 24. I turned the bins around backwards to what the were intended and it holds the rods at an upward angle. It is called a pick rack and I paid around $30. for it. The metal stand bolts to my table. It works great for me. Hope I can post the photo for you.

Roy

Just Nancy

2006-03-19, 7:09am

Roy,
I don't know how to upload a picture. I usually put a picture on a spare page on my website and link it here. If there is a picture of the rack at Harbor Freight you can usually link it here as well.

To do that you have to be in advanced reply, not quick reply (or know the right codes, which I don't something like [img closed bracket then the link for the picture and then the bracket again then /img and the ] you need to right click on their picture and find out the www harbor freight.com/name of the picture under properties if possible). The easy way is to click on the picture above the text box. It will either add the img code and you put your cursor in the middle and add the link, or it gives you a box to put the link. (Can't remember which way this site is and don't have time to check.) Actually, if I'm not mistaken this same basic technique can be used for good or for evil. Obviously not good if you want to claim you made the rack. ;)

Hopefully I didn't totally confuse you. Good luck, I love to see any storage suggestions.

~Nancy

Edit because I need to make clear, I wasn't implying anyone was trying to claim they created any racks. I was just guessing people could do this with a bead or close to this. I thought the right click thing was one of the ways some people 'steal' pictures.

IF-Designs

2006-03-19, 8:43am

roy is this what your talking about ?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/42000-42099/42040.gif
only real problem with these is they dont really stack and I personally dont like the drawer type holder...but the stacking thing is the bigger and the bins are bigger than I need.

zoomerpop

2006-03-19, 11:44am

yep, that's it. I can see what you mean and probably when I get into this more I will probably find that. Right now it works for the amount that I have and I have it right on my worktable and store the extra elsewhere.
Thanks for posting that photo though. I almost had mine, but don't know how to make the file small enough to send now.

Just Nancy

2006-03-19, 1:38pm

I had considered something similar at Sam's club. I would have bought it if it came with more than 3 box dividers. I didn't want to fabricate dividers for the remaining ones.

In total I think the one I was looking at had like 50 boxes. Divided in half or thirds it would have held a lot. But wasn't meant to have that many containers. I'm still considering it if I don't end up with something else first.

Thanks for the picture Karin (and the info Roy).

Anyone else feel free to chime in. Not everyone reads the storage thread (where ever it is these days).

~Nancy

ChristyPhelps

2006-03-20, 7:39am

This has gotten me thinking about architectural, blueprint files and why wouldn't they work? So now I found this - http://www.technibench.com/products/storage/dip.html

but this is an UK company, I haven't gone deeper into finding out the pricing because shipping would be prohibitive. But at least we know it exists. ... I'll keep looking. The roll blueprint files are over $1,000 - so back to the drawing board on that one. (get it? drawing board? I know. groan, right? I haven't eaten yet.)

Just Nancy

2006-03-20, 10:01am

Drawing board. No I missed it the first time. :lol:

I've also seen mail sorters that someone found, but I have yet to find to purchase at a reasonable price. I'd like something that looks similar but to your picture but don't know that I care what it is made of.

I'm not sure if we have a concensus on size, but if we do looks like we could be at 25-30. Maybe.

Lynn Burgess

2006-03-21, 4:18pm

I just talked to a friend of mine about building me some boxes out of wood. He has all the tools needed to do this and didn't think it would be a big deal. I told him I wanted 2" by 2" cubbie holes, 12" deep. He said he should have something for me by Friday. I told him to keep track of time and material and if they worked out that maybe he could come up with a price for them. I told him it had to be strong enough to hold the glass, but not to heavy. Does anybody know of any disadvantages to having it made of wood, besides the weight?

Lynn

Just Nancy

2006-03-22, 7:38pm

Lynn,
Finding someone to make it would be the only negative I know of. (Or price but I'm thinking it can't be worse than the acrylic I've priced.)

I've seen them done in wood, but I don't know anyone to ask to do it.

Be sure to post someplace. I love seeing what people use.
Nancy

imakebeads

2006-03-23, 2:45am

imakebeads

2006-03-23, 2:49am

Also you may notice in the photo I made dividers for some of them so it gives me more storage.

Avaline

Janith

2006-03-23, 5:08am

Avaline,
What's the best way to cut them?

Tanya

2006-03-23, 8:55am

I use 2 1/2 inch square downspout. I got 10 foot pieces for about $10 each. It works great. I cut it into 15 inch length pieces so I could easily label the glass at the end of of the tube. I will include a picture if I can. I found it at True Value Hardware in WA state. Also Home Depot has pvc fence railing with 3 sections that might work for glass storage.

Avaline

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL819/3019330/9326492/134876995.jpg

Avaline - that looks great! And I really like the way you do your dividers. I would have been trying to figure out how to divide them vertically rather than diagonally. I'm thinking this is what Arrow Springs must be using for the storage racks they sell. The deeper ones are 17". Given my lack of a decent saw (it's pretty pathetic what I'll try to do with a jeweler's saw, but not even I would take on downspout) it might be easier to get it from Arrow Springs. Guess it would depend on how much the shipping is.

richsantaclaus

2006-03-23, 7:36pm

Geeze Avaline - I want to be your next door neighbor having that selection of glass...lol!!!

imakebeads

2006-03-23, 11:07pm

My downspout is plastic and it wasn't to bad to cut. I used a PVC saw I got at Lowe's but I think a hacksaw would maybe work. I used a miter box to help me make straight cuts.

Avaline

KLittle

2006-03-24, 1:36am

Avaline - What did you use to make the dividers?

I have used this same kind of downspout but have not come up with a sturdy divider for the cubbies that can hold 2 colors of glass. I have also used Central Vac tubing from the hardware store. I learned about this option afterwards and use it to hold a different COE of glass. It is half the price of the downspout but it is round so it needs to be 'contained' (like in a cabinet). I was able to cut my own tubing using a radial arm saw. Made a heck of a mess but was super quick to cut!

Kari

imakebeads

2006-03-24, 2:57am

I don't remember what it was called. I got it in the lumber section at Home Depot. It might be tileboard but I am not sure. It's white on one side and it's like a pressed board on the other side. It's 1/8 inch thick and you can get it in 4x8 sheets or if you are lucky you can get a half sheet or smaller like I did. I cut it with a jigsaw to the size I needed.

Avaline

Torch Singer

2006-03-24, 9:27am

Avaline,
What's the best way to cut them?

I'm not Avaline, but when I used the downspouts, I cut them on my hubby's tablesaw (supported on the long end so it wouldn't bind). I've since switched to using vinyl fence rails (but I rarely have more than two or three pounds of any one color except white, black, the ivories, and clear). I use some of the downspout for my boro rods and for anything I have more than 3 pounds of

Jood

KLittle

2006-03-24, 12:10pm

Just Nancy

2007-10-13, 10:21am

I thought I would revive this thread. I have been contacted by someone who ordered and paid for a unit they have not received.

I am happy with the units I ordered. I have since decided as much as I would like to, I can't afford to sort all my glass in these units and I have not ordered more from George. Here is an old picture. I have two of his units. http://www.baublesbynancy.com/moretti1_small1.jpg

So, for now I would suggest proceeding with caution.