Any interest in a BoroBox???

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Would anyone would be interested in doing a Boro glass box to pass around like the GeoGlass Box in the game room???
Glass, silver/gold, tools, findings, molds, frit, etc.

Basically a sharing box. You get it, take some stuff out, put some stuff in, send it to the next person.

What do y'all think?


Sign ups for BoroBox is CLOSED

[Over the Moon]

I'm in Canada...Can I play? - (got lots of goodies, can't help myself!)
...Val

[Cosmo]

I'd be interested. The only request I have is that you wait a few weeks to get started. We have shows most every weekend from now until we go to Asheville with Mr Smiley the first week of May. I won't have ANY spare time until then.

But, I love these kinds of things, so just put me later on the list and count me in.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Oh goody!
Of course you can play Val.
And you're in Chad, just further down the list :)

I think we'll need at least 10 to play, so we'll see how it goes.

[baylie]

I am in, I'll throw down some big murinni chuncks! OOO I have so many goodies!

[Lynn Larson]

I'd love to play!! I don't have a lot of boro, but i'm willing to share :D

[Juln]

Earlier, I was about to post that I was interested in participating, but while I was typing, my computer spontaneously shut off for no apparent reason and wouldn't stay on again for more than 1 minute.
I think this is a sign that I should NOT participate.

[e. mort]

Run a full virus scan on that puppy now!

Eric

[Juln]

Well, I use Linux, so it's not your usual spyware and virus infested Windows machine with Outlook shining like a beacon to the criminal underworld.
It's a kind of flaky older laptop. Every night around 4 am something weird starts happening, like the display shuts off and won't turn on again, even in the BIOS sequence, until the next day. It might be possessed.
Since it was shutting down spontaneously, while booting, it's not likely to be a virus or other security issue. I think theres a short or something - the charger hookup is screwed, just like every other laptop older than 2 years I' ve ever seen (clearly how they make you buy new ones). I don't know, it's working now!
And this has nothing to do with a Boro Box.
Sure, send me a Boro Box! I have a bunch of weird stuff to pack in there.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Ok, so far:

butterflykj
FlowerVal
Cosmo
baylie
Lynn Larson
Juln

e.mort: are you in?

[baylie]

can't wait...How many people do we need to start this box on its journey?

[Tanya]

I'm in, if you'll tell me what I need to do. I've never done a box thing.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

butterflykj
FlowerVal
Cosmo
baylie
Lynn Larson
Juln
Tanya

Ok I will start a box w/ a whole bunch of goodies, then mail it to the next person on the list (I'll do a random thing) they go thru it, take some stuff out, put some other stuff in, maybe make a bead/marble/gift or something for the next person and send it off............hopefully w/ in a week [-o<
I usually mail everything Priority w/ delivery confirmation. Then the last person on the list sends it back to me.

Also, in this thread, try and keep the other players updated w/ when you receive it, what you took out and what you put in, and then when you mail it on to the next person. You can go and check out the Geo Glass box threads in the game room to see how they have worked.

I was thinking at least 10 people to start it :-k

I am going to Mountain Glass Arts, yes again :-D , today so I'll get a bunch of extra stuff to start the box off and get a list going of what I'll put in.

This will be fun.

[Over the Moon]

It WILL be a lot of fun! Thanks Carrie, for getting the ball rolling...
Val

[e. mort]

I can alway put in that NS Jade, right? :lol:

Eric

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Eric, are you 'in'?

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Oh yeah, FlowerVal.............just say no to snoodling :lol: :flirt: :lol:

[Tanya]

I can alway put in that NS Jade, right? :lol:

Eric

Nope, I'm going to put the NS Jade in...:twisted:

Eric, you are in, aren't you???

[e. mort]

OK, what the heck, put me in as well.

Eric

[suzanne]

That would be fun, but I am in The Netherlands, can I play?? I don'have a lot of boro but am definetly willing to share, I have lots and lots of tools and other stuff ( genuine belgium chocolates etc) for trade

[boroburner]

well if the box is comming north i supose i could toss something in.
sign me up.
B

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Suzanne, so I've never mailed anything to the Netherlands, how much does it cost and how long does it take? usually? any better method to ship than another?

[Cosmo]

USPS will probably be the cheapest to send it, but it will also be the slowest.

[boroburner]

I just sent a bunch of products in Oct. to the Netherlands, Its a hassle. They have the VAT tax on all incoming goods, and its like 21%. Shipping itself is quite spendy also. It was cheaper for me to send two people with my products in their luggage than it was to send just a box in the bottom of the plane:-k
O' well. Dad was happy to go over and im sure my shop mate nadia didnt mind either. Maybe ill get a passport so i can go next time.
B

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Good grief.

I'll wait to hear Suzanne chime in.........
I can do a RAOGK to her if it takes too long, etc.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Ok so far:

butterflykj
FlowerVal
Cosmo
baylie
Lynn Larson
Juln
Tanya
e.mort
boroburner

[suzanne]

Shipping is quite easy to the Netherlands. It is expensive, but I am more then willing to pick up the tab for shipping. Customs do get their hands on stuff a lot, and will add 19% of taxes on the total value of the package ( wich has to be stated on the customs slip. ) I usually receive my items within four days, but it can take six weeks if customs do hold back on the item.

Best thing would be for me to drop out , I don;t want to spoil a wonderfull plan:) I wish you all tons of fun and I will be watching this thread!

Suzanne

[valerie_folly]

I'm in. I'll be interested to see what is going in the box to start.
Suzanne, don't want you to be left out, we could do a mini exchangey thingy? You work in soft glass too right?

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Ok here we go :waving:

butterflykj
FlowerVal
Cosmo
baylie
Lynn Larson
Juln
Tanya
e.mort
boroburner
valerie folly

Can everybody please PM me your address so we can get this thing going?

Suzanne, can you also send me your address so I can send some AOGK, not really 'Random'! I would include you, but I would totally freak if it got held up 6 weeks, yikes :shock:

I will get the box together this weekend and post what is in it and where it is going first :-D

Please try and get the box back out w/in 7 days [-o< The faster it moves, the faster more people get to play and there won't be as much discouragement.

Please post when you get the box, then what you've taken out and put in, etc.
Thank you!

[Cosmo]

Are we just putting materials in? Or are we putting in some finished stuff too?

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

I was hoping we put in 1 bead/marble/whatever as a specific gift to the next person on the list and so on.

Also, you can put in whatever you want to share/give.

[jayglass]

WOW ...NS JADE !!!! IM IN !!!!!!!!!!!! I hope I get it ... !!!!

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

butterflykj
FlowerVal
Cosmo *
baylie
Lynn Larson *
Juln
Tanya *
e.mort *
boroburner *
valerie folly
jayglass

I've put an asterick (sp?) beside the names that I have addresses for so far.
I can't spell today for some reason, sorry.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

butterflykj
FlowerVal *
Cosmo *
baylie
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
Tanya *
e.mort *
boroburner *
valerie folly *
jayglass *
Suzanne *

Since we don't know the costs/time it will take to get to Suzanne, I'll have the last person mail the box back to me and then I'll mail it on over to the Netherlands so she can play too!

[suzanne]

Thank you so much Carrie, you are the best * big kiss for you*!!.

[boroburner]

I thought they fixed the jade??
It used to be horrible, but i tried some a coupl months ago and it was really nice to work. Did i just get part of a freak batch?
B

[Tanya]

I thought they fixed it too. I'm not sure what happened with Eric's pendant. I haven't had the chance to play with it yet, but will post an update when I do. Even is it is still persnickety, I like the color so much, I think it would be lovely unencased. I'm assuming it's a chrome color, and there are issues with encasing many of the chrome colors.

[boroburner]

strange...... If i had to guess i woulda said cadmium, mostly cause it reminds me of the crayons in both density and working characteristics. It used to boil if i remember right. I only got a sample rod from my supplier of the new and the old i had enough BAD experiances with to turn me off of nething called jade.
I dont remember if the new boiled or not, i know it didnt crack under clear.
B

[Juln]

Yeah, Jade is chrome. All of the opaque greens and most sparkles are. They usually aren't anywhere near as touchy as cadmiums.
Forest Green, they fixed by lowering the COE. Probably that has happened with Jade by now, but theres probably still a lot of the old stuff floating around in inventory.

[Tanya]

I made a couple of Jade beads. Two unencased, one encased. No problems with any of them. The glass did seem like it was considering boiling, but I worked it a bit further out. The only negative is where I added glass to one of the unencased beads - it looks a bit discolored. Perhaps the added glass got too hot. All in all, though, it worked just fine.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

FlowerVal *
Cosmo *
baylie *
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
Tanya *
e.mort *
boroburner *
valerie folly *
jayglass *
suzanne *

Ok I have everybody's address =D>
I am getting the box together this weekend and will post what is in it. I will also include a list in the box for you to mark off what you take out and then you also write what you put in.

Here is the bitchy request: If you cannot get the box back out w/in 7 days after you receive it, then don't play, it really sucks when somebody holds on to the box for weeks or a month :shock: I don't get it ](*,)

Allrightee then. Now that that is over with 8-[ I'll post who's going first Monday!

[suzanne]

This is soo cool! I can't wait to see what will happen next, I feel like a kid on xmas morning!

[Over the Moon]

Very exciting, indeed...thanks again Carrie, for pulling this together...
Val

[boroburner]

game on!
B

[misfit]

I have little boro, am willing to share. and am not at all good at working it. :( but if further down the list would love to play.

Alan.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Ok, here is the list, I hope this is enough to start? :-k If not, just tell me........soon though, like before tomorrow :-s

12 Momka shorts
18 3mm clear
11 5mm clear
2 Elvis
2 Pomegranite
2 DAP
2 AP
2 Amazon Night
1 Disco Sparkle, short
1 Egyptian White Sands
1 Green AP
1 Mystery Aventurine
1 Blue Caramel
1 Yellow
1 Cobalt
1 Silver Strike 3
1 Silver Strike 5
1 Aurora
1 Blue Moon
1 Butterscotch
1 Aquarmarine Sparkle
1 Silver Tears
1 Caribbean Coral
1 Silver Beach
1 Cherry Brandy
1 Magic Mirror
1 Silver Iris
1 Almond Nugget
1 Silver Dance
1 Green Envy
1 Green Pearl
1 Alaska Night
1 Amethyst Ice

All of the above, except noted, are full rods, either take the whole rod or cut in half, whatever you want to do. All are labeled, most w/ how to work them on the label, which is a cool thing that Mountain Glass Arts does \\:D/

Back to the list:

Frit:
2 Green AP small
2 DAP powder
1 DAP small
1 DAP large
2 Yellow large
2 Mystery Aventurine small
2 Indigo Luster size 38
2 Silver Strike 5 size 38

Brass tool for shaping/marvering
Copper mesh
Foster Fire bead release, small
1 Spool Tan 2mm Leather cord, natural
20G Fine Silver wire, couple feet
25 Sheets Silver Leaf
25 Sheets Silver Foil
Measuring tool (cheaper caliper)
1 Sterling Silver pendant
3 Sterling Silver Snake chains
3mm Satin Cord, few feet

And 1 bead gift for the first player!

[misfit]

was I too late to get in?

A.

[FlameDancer]

Me, me, me...I'd love to play:) Sorry to be so late Carrie....I'm exhausted and I am soooo glad the show is over:) WOOHOOOO!!!

[e. mort]

Dang Carrie! You sure you can afford to put that much stuff in there? I was planning on adding some boro color, a frit combo that I made, and some pendants, but it looks like you are putting in the lion's share.

Eric

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Eric, I feel like it should have enough 'stuff' in it to begin with and it will eventually get back to me w/ other 'stuff' :-D

I've never started a sharing 'box', only contributed, and I only took out what I wanted to put back in that was comparable, if that makes sense.
When it is somebody's turn, they can take as little or as much as they'd like out of the box, uhhh w/in reason :-\" but it should be replaced w/ the same amount. Not necessarily the same types of items that were taken out, but 'worth' the same amount of money or more, depending on what they have to 'give'.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

FlowerVal *
Cosmo *
baylie *
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
Tanya *
e.mort *
boroburner *
valerie folly *
jayglass *
suzanne *
misfit *
Flamedancer *
Karen Hardy *

A couple more added!

Sign up is CLOSED!

[e. mort]

Hmmm, I may have a couple of extra tools I can put in there as well. Hmmm, I do have a pair of Aura 92 clip ons but they are more for softglass than boro.

Eric

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

The BoroBox will be mailed today Priority w/ delivery confirmation and insured to..........



































Tanya :grin: Have Fun!!!

I will post the delivery confirmation in the thread so we can all watch its' progress. I'd also like it if everyone can do the same, so we don't have the box getting 'lost' :-k

[Tanya]

Woohooo!!!

[Karen Hardy]

Actually, having participated in many swaps and other things like this, the proper "box etiquette" is to put a "gift" in to the originator or the box (which would be you, Carrie - Queen for the day:biggrin: ). It would be really cool if everybody who participates puts in a special bead to you for organizing this, and then you get to make a necklace from all the beads. Then whenever you wear it, you "feel the love" :love:

Wow, awesome bunch of stuff going in - I'm going through my special boro drawers putting together some yummy stuff to contribute! Can't wait!!!
I've been playing with making some custom frit blends, so I'll try and get some made so whoever comes after me can have some to play with (maybe multiple sample packs so everybody can try some?).

Karen H

I was hoping we put in 1 bead/marble/whatever as a specific gift to the next person on the list and so on.

Also, you can put in whatever you want to share/give.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Wow, I am 'taken back'. I don't really know what to say.....

Thank you Karen for suggesting that, it isn't necessary, but I am just in awe of the giving on this forum and having 'met' so many wonderful sharing people.
You people ROCK!!! =D>

I truly have gotten way more than I have given to this forum.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Oops, custom frits sounds FUN Karen!

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

I went ahead and took 2 quick pics of what I put in the box.
I love the labels that Mountain Glass Arts has BTW. And if not from them, then I put labels on all the rods.

21794

21793

I forgot, I also put in 10 Sterling Silver toe rings :waving:

[boroburner]

sweet!!!
I look forward to adding my lil bit.
B

[Over the Moon]

Yippeeee...can't wait!

[valerie_folly]

WOW, that's alotta stuff. I'll try to make something worthy for you Carrie and the next person - maybe I'll get to Brent's class before the box gets to me.....you guys need to hope I'm near the end...LOL

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Here is the Delivery Confirmation #: 0305 1720 0002 3861 0084

I am going to ask that everyone put the Delivery Confirmation in this thread for all to see.
I would also appreciate everyone Insuring the BoroBox.

I insured the box for $200, Priority w/ delivery confirm. and it cost me $14.20 FYI.

After watching another box in the Game Room go MIA after being stalled for 4+ weeks and then returned to sender :roll:
This is a now a requirement to play.

If anyone thinks this is too many rules or a pain in the ass to do these few things, then opt out now :-D

[Tanya]

Insurance and delivery confirmation are necessary PIAs! Thanks again Carrie for all you've done. I'm not sure if one of my beads would be considered much of a "gift" but I'll certainly put one in so you can decide.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Thank you Tanya for understanding!
Have fun when it arrives!
And I definitely will appreciate any gift you give me!

[boroburner]

If i could get the box later in the loop that would be cool. Ill be back to work on friday(knock on wood) tradesmen are so unpredictable. Im waithing for new hoods to be made for the studio and presently dont have anything finished to put in(not really true i do have the oldies), but id rather send something new.
B

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Ok boroburner!

[Tanya]

Carrie - The post office tried to deliver the package today, but I was at work and there was nobody here to sign. I'll pick it up tomorrow. Can't wait!!!

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Awesome! Thanks for the update!

[baylie]

ohboyohboy I can't wait!! I will be putting in some sticks of custom blended color. I really would like it if whorver uses this to post pics of the end product.I want to see how it stands up to dif flame atmospheres. I have had no compatability issues, used it inside marbs and hollow forms. i think you will love it. I will also throw in some recipes for making your own....

[Over the Moon]

Wow Baylie - that sounds fabulous! But what about everyone who won't be next in line after you? Any chance of posting those recipes for all of us to see? Or how about a copy for each participant right in the box? Come on - what do you think?! I love new recipes...probably others do as well...
Have a great weekend, folks...

[Tanya]

Ok, I picked up the package this morning but I haven't had time to open it yet! I'm off to do that now!

[Tanya]

I opened it and it's awesome!!! Now getting stuff together to put back in... I hate to ask stupid questions, but not having done this before... how do I know who to send it to next?

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Next up is:

jayglass

Thank you Tanya for keeping us updated!

[misfit]

I'm going to bow out on this game. I got to go and have a "lesson" and play with all this boro I've collected today... Maybe I'll try it again in the future, but have to say its not me right now. I didn't even bother bringing the glass I'd bought back home.

A.

[baylie]

I'm going to bow out on this game. I got to go and have a "lesson" and play with all this boro I've collected today... Maybe I'll try it again in the future, but have to say its not me right now. I didn't even bother bringing the glass I'd bought back home.

A.
That is no fun, try try again. Hope you come back to boro, she can take a minute to get a handle on... good luck

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Sorry to hear that misfit..........maybe next time.

FlowerVal *
Cosmo *
baylie *
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
Tanya *
e.mort *
boroburner *
valerie folly *
jayglass *
suzanne *
Flamedancer *
Karen Hardy *

Sign up is CLOSED.

[misfit]

maybe sometime in the future, but I doubt it. I have a feeling that I like the idea of boro, but don't really like much of anything else about it.

A.

[boroburner]

I know i dont like the price. But not much else about it.
B
hope to c you around

[Tanya]

I like it WAY too much, given the price. But that's pretty much the story of my life.

I'm having so much fun with the Momka rods I got in the box. Now I'm going to have to buy some Momka glass (see 1st line above :biggrin:) Thanks Carrie! I'll be mailing the package to jayglass tomorrow morning.

Here's what I took out:
2 Momka shorts
1 Elvis
1 Silver Strike 3
1 Silver Beach
1 Cherry Brandy
½ Magic Mirror
1 Silver Iris
1 Silver Dance
1 Alaska Night
½ Amethyst Ice

1 Frit – DAP small
1 Frit Silver Strike 5 38

Brass tool for shaping, marvering
Copper mesh
Measuring tool/cheaper caliper
1 Sterling silver pendant
1 Sterling silver snake chain

My bead from Carrie – it’s beautiful, thanks!

And here's what I put in:
1 NS 11 Jade
1 NS 27 Green Exotic
1 NS 44 Caramel (I’m almost positively definitely sure it’s Caramel anyway)
1 NS 46 DAP
1 NS 66 Sublime
1 NS 78 Mystery Aventurine
1 NS 81 Blue Caramel
1 GA 481 Spring Luster (this is in the form of 2 half rods – for some reason Arrow Springs shipped all my Spring Luster this way.)
1 GA 5486 Peacock Chameleon
1 GA 5488 Twilight Chameleon
1 GA 683 Indigo Luster

1 Frit – clear, 38
1 Frit – clear, 70

Combination graphite marble mold/bead shaper (for small marbles)
2 Dental picks
4 Pure Tugnsten electrodes (can be sharpened for use as picks or rakes)
8 3/32” Mandrels
1 5-6mm Hollow mandrel/blow tube
6” 24K 28g wire (I taped this to the silver leaf package so it won’t get lost)

A bead for J
A bead for Carrie

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Tanya you ROCK!!! I can't wait to see your work :biggrin:

Thank you so much for keeping us updated.

[Tanya]

The box is on it's way to Jay, insured for $200. The delivery confirmation number is 0305 0830 0000 5281 1086. The insurance receipt number is VD 058 999 166 US.

I forgot to mention that when I received the box a couple of the rods were broken. This always seems to happen, despite careful packing. I took a couple of these since they were colors I want to try. I made a new bundle of "shorts" which has the half rods in it, including the Spring Luster. The Pomegranite rod was inconsiderate and broke near the end with the label. I didn't take this rod since I just received some in an order. It's in with the full rods. Just to let you know.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Thank you, and sorry for the broken rods :oops:

[baylie]

cannotwaitcannotwait

[Tanya]

Thank you, and sorry for the broken rods :oops:

Not your fault! Most shipments of glass I get have at least a couple of broken rods. And they're all packed well. I think many of the rods just need a little pressure in the wrong place to break. Plus, with the boro rods, it's actually helpful to have them in shorter lengths. I find I'm always swatting things with one end of the full sized rods while working with the other.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

bump

[baylie]

what order is the box going thru the list?

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

jayglass should have it any day now and I'll post who is next after we hear from him.

[baylie]

If you looked at the mixinitup thread you know I am throwin in some custom mixed color & a recipe book! If I knew how many were after me I would Know how much to throw so everyone after me gets some.

[Karen Hardy]

If you looked at the mixinitup thread you know I am throwin in some custom mixed color & a recipe book! If I knew how many were after me I would Know how much to throw so everyone after me gets some.

If you're going to put in a recipe book - can you make sure there's enough copies for everyone? I'm assuming it's a handmade one (photocopy kind?). I'd kill with my bare hands for a good boro recipe book (really - just give me a name:twisted:).

I hope I get it soon!!! I'm putting together all kinds of cool and nifty custom stuff - I just bought a special tool for making canes with and I'm aching to make some boro canes to share. I'm thinking some that can be used for florals and the like. Yum, yum, yum!

[jayglass]

The BoX....

It was waiting for mw when I got home from the Shop last nite !!!!

I got a Boro Bead for a gift !!! Thank you !!!! My girlfirend has already tried to lay claim to it !!!!

I Opened it first thing this morning..... Wow....this is such a great Idea.... I haven't made beads in years... and hanging out here has kind of made me want to try some again..... and what do I find ... some mandrels and bead release !!!!! I took 2 of the 8 mandrels and 1 of the hollow blow tubes.... I would like some bead release too since i have none.... if i took some out of the container , how do I store it.... any tips .... or should I just dip my mandrels and pass the jar on ?....

I was excited to see the necklace cord.... I make lots of pendants .....but never have strung thme on cord....I even have clasps...but no cord.... so I took about 3' of the leather cord and am going to finally be able use my clasps !!!

I also found 3 sticks of color I have really wanted to try ..... Elvis, Almond Nugget, and Silver tears...

I would like to try a leaf or 2 of the Silver Foil.... I have a great idea for it....

I thought the silver necklace chains were very nice.... I tried a few things I made on them ... didn't look rite to me.... I would love to see what some other people have used them with .... I like the necklace.... but didn't take one... I would like to find a way to make something that would go with the in the future.....

So... What will I put in ?

Well... First off I thought you all may like to try some White dawrf Gunmounts ... ( i bet everyone wishes they signed up now...LOL ) ...so I will throw in enough for every one to get a few.....

I will also throw in a pound or so of the mixed gunmount colors....

I have a few rods of Glasstronix Purple ....( opaque ...non striking )

Maybe a few sticks of green Dwarf....

I have some .999 silver rolled flat ...easy to cut small chunks to fume with ...

A little Gold ....rolled flat as well....

A few Gilson opals....

I will try and find a few color rods that are not In the box...... and label them.... I know I have some Perriwinkle to throw in ...

And I thought I would put in a few lengths of Larger Boro rod maybe 10 or 12 mil ...( if anyone would like a chunk of something larger ... I can saw off a chunk up to 1.5 " ) ...

and maybe a few pieces of 12.7 tube and 1 " tube....

I think I need a bigger Box..... LoL...

This was really Fun !!!!!

Jay

Edit : spelling

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Jay you ROCK!!!

Thank you for posting. I don't know what some of the stuff you are talking about is (no surprise there) but it sounds fabulous. :grin:

Next up is:

baylie

[valerie_folly]

Me neither Carrie so I'M sure glad I signed up....more stuff to need! LOL

[Over the Moon]

Oh Carrie! When's it gonna be my turn? I could just bust with aniticipation! Everyone's comments and contributions sound fantabulous! What's the story about the dwarves...(??!?!?) Got no clue there! Oh I hope I get an opal...How much fun is this, eh guys? Oh, and hey Val there's a big diff between having the stuff we need, and then having the stuff we want! A lot of this stuff in the box is, to me, extreme icing on our collective cake of desire...Aren't we all so lucky???! LOL

[baylie]

Gunmount color? where did you find it? I had some 'turtle green' that was used in the tv industry fer sumthin... sweet buttery light green,wouldn't burn at all, Can't wait. If you haven't sent it out already I would be extra stoked on a chunk of that big ol rod you were talkin about. I just got a big pile of silicon from my little bro, it looks like space ship wreakage in space marbs, mirror like,I'll toss some in.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Awww man, I am getting excited about the cool stuff going in! And it is going to be awhile before it gets back to me, whine, whine.
Although, I am having fun just watching this box go around.

Thank you to everybody who signed up. You guys and gals are awesome!!!

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Here are who is left to receive the BoroBox:
baylie * is next (you'd asked how many after you)

FlowerVal *
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
e.mort *
valerie folly *
Flamedancer *
Karen Hardy *

boroburner *
Cosmo *
suzanne *
Toni L *
butterflykj*

cosmo and boroburner asked to be further down the list, I will send it to suzanne at the end so she can play too even though she's in the Netherlands.
So all of you in the middle, who knows when you're up :grin:


Who has already gotten it:

Tanya *
jayglass *

[baylie]

Super excited, Gotta start typing up recipes soon.

[jayglass]

Baylie,
I'm the secret gunmount connection .... :) .... I lived in Corning in 1998 when Corning shut down the Fall Brook plant that made them .... I bought as much as I could get my hands on , knowing there would never be any more made....

since the box goes to you next , I can definatley cut off a section of big rod for you ... would you like 1" or 1.5 inch ? ..let me know before monday . when I hope to send the box on its way to you ....

Jay

[baylie]

Whatever is easiest, I have been using 18mm for big marbs and somthing a little bigger would save some time...

[jayglass]

I'll put in a large chunk for you ...probably 1.5" I usually precut my rods into 6" or so plugs that I punty to ....you can use your 18mm for a punty ....<J>

[baylie]

Sweet, thanks! I can't wait!!

[boroburner]

Hey baylie....
Is the turtle green square? Might have been used for the same thing as the white dwarf.(not that i know what that is) I heard somewhere long ago that the dwarf was used for tv's.
B

[baylie]

It was flat, as long as Borostix,half as thick, and twice as wide.... So smooth OMG!!!

[boroburner]

i wonder if there related? I miss the dwarf. It was a pain in the arse putting all the lil 4" stix together to be able to use em' but danm it was worth it.
B

[jayglass]

Ok...The Box was mailed this morning..... Some of the things I put in were.... Gilson Opals.....Odds and ends Of CBS Dichro ...( needs to be wiped down before used ) ... Glasstronix Purple and Green, White, Black , Brown , Tan , Pink , Offwhite and green Dwarf Gunmounts, ! tube of 25.4 Hwt ... cut in 1/3ds and firepolished on the ends....1 tube of 19.5 hwt cut in 1/3.... I rod of 10 mm cut in 1/3 , I 12.7 hwt cut in 1/3, 4 seperate lengths of Silver for fuming, about 24 Assorted Milli chips..... A few sticks of NS perriwinkle.... and a few other color rods.....

If anyone has any questions about any of the stuff...I'll be happy to answer
I had to get a larger box....LOL

I mailed it out Priority to Baylie.... with 500 Insurance....

Here is the Delivery confirmation # 0305 1720 0001 1842 9959

Here is the Insurance # VF 268 592 094 US

This was fun !!!!!!

Thanks ...Jay

[Lynn Larson]

What a bunch of goodies!!

[baylie]

Gigggedygiggedygiggedy!!!!alll Right!!!

[baylie]

how much was the shipping?

[jayglass]

I think the shipping was around 23 bucks.... let me know when you get it ...!!! <J>

[baylie]

HA! 23 is my lucky number!!!
I'll let you know.

[boroburner]

My studio is finished!!! Wooo Hooo. You can send the box my way anytime.
B

[Tanya]

When I shipped it to Jay it was only $12. I only insured it for $200, though.

Congrats on your studio B!

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Thank you Jay for posting the Delivery Confirm # and all the other stuff too!!!
Wow, awesome stuff in there for sure.
This Box is moving right along! Yippee.

Have fun baylie!

[Karen Hardy]

Just a quick note of concern- if people are putting glass into the box that is NOT boro (which it sounds like some are) they need to make sure to label it clearly with the type of glass and COE. I'd hate to use something from the box in my boro beads and find a pile of broken glass in the kiln in the morning.

...back outside to wait by the mailbox....dum, de, dum.....

[baylie]

So I was sitting waitin for the mail man to bring me the borobox, and I realize that it is past when the mail normally comes and no knock on door. I figured the box didn't come today, but I go to my mail box and there is a little slip telling me they tried to deliver and I didn't answer..This is such nonsense!!!!!! Our mailman is a lazy b#&%h! He did not even try to knock on my door, He didn't even come into my yard. I know this because My dog barks if you get near my house, ande my dog made no noise. If this was the first time I would not be as p!$sed, but this guy is just plain lazy!!!! Thre are no no parking signs on my street, but if the mail man needs to actually get out of his truck to reach your box he just skips it. I have seen him do it then i had to run down the street to get my mail. when I caught him he said if he can't reach it from his window It can wait till he comes back tomorrow. What happened to 'rain, snow. nor the dead of night'.... Isn't his job to actually give me my mail the day it shows up in his truck? Is he allowed to just decide not to deliver my mail if a neighbour is parked on the street in front of my house, in a spot that is a perfectly legal parking spot? How do I complain? Who to?

[jayglass]

I assume you are refering to me ? EVERYTHING I put In is Boro , Or boro compatible ... I've been working Boro for about 10 years now... I have a nice collection of boro stuff ...maybe it is just stuff you have never heard of ... some of the stuff I put in hasn;t been made in over 8 years..... I didn't see anything that wasn;t Boro when it got to me, and I looked everything over pretty well... so ....there should be no worries.....so far....

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

So I was sitting waitin for the mail man to bring me the borobox, and I realize that it is past when the mail normally comes and no knock on door. I figured the box didn't come today, but I go to my mail box and there is a little slip telling me they tried to deliver and I didn't answer..This is such nonsense!!!!!! Our mailman is a lazy b#&%h! He did not even try to knock on my door, He didn't even come into my yard. I know this because My dog barks if you get near my house, ande my dog made no noise. If this was the first time I would not be as p!$sed, but this guy is just plain lazy!!!! Thre are no no parking signs on my street, but if the mail man needs to actually get out of his truck to reach your box he just skips it. I have seen him do it then i had to run down the street to get my mail. when I caught him he said if he can't reach it from his window It can wait till he comes back tomorrow. What happened to 'rain, snow. nor the dead of night'.... Isn't his job to actually give me my mail the day it shows up in his truck? Is he allowed to just decide not to deliver my mail if a neighbour is parked on the street in front of my house, in a spot that is a perfectly legal parking spot? How do I complain? Who to?

I feel ya' baylie!

When we lived in Key Largo we'd have a part-time driver on Sat. and any days our regular carrier was off and he sucked. Big time. I did complain to my regular gal (she couldn't stand him either because he was lazy) their supervisor, and then the postmaster. Sorry I was on a roll over a couple of months 8-[
Anyways, I was told technically because I had a gated yard they didn't have to come to the door, which is fine, all they had to do was beep the horn and I'd go out, and they knew I was home if my vehicle was in the driveway, but the sub driver wouldn't even do this, WTF? That is what pissed me off the most. It takes longer to fill out the slip than it does to beep, uhhh hello? :roll:
I called the post office one Saturday after he did this and he didn't have a cellphone for them to call and tell him to redeliver, so he had to bring it back out at the end of the day. :lol: I don't think we had many problems w/ delivery from him after that.
Where I live now, our carrier will come up our driveway, 1/3 of a mile to deliver if he needs a signature. He is awesome. :biggrin:

I am happy though that the BoroBox is 'there' somewhere in your city! Have fun and I'll let you know who is up next in a PM.

[baylie]

Got back a little while ago from chasing down the mailman, it looks like the box got drop kicked!!! Everything was fine though. When I caught up with the mailjerk he claimed that he rang my doorbell repeatedly.I don't have a door bell. my wife was sitting on the couch across the livingroom from the front door with the door open and screen closed. My dog goes berserk if someone steps on the porch, and she was sleepin next to the door. The jerk was very rude to me and got real close to my face with his when he told me " Its not my job" in response to me asking why he would just skip my box when cars were legally parked near it. This guy was trying to intimidate me, what a fool. All I wanted was my package.And now I am filling out a complaint against him. Oh, this is the same guy that left a Herbert Arnold sitting on my porch in the rain with out knocking or having me sign for it.

On a happier note this box is so full of boro goodness!! Those light green gunmounts look jut like the turtle I was askin about, only half as long. I wonder if they are the same? Asuggestion for those on the list after me, no packing peanuts, they get every where and leave little bits all over the glass(the biodegradable ones got all stiff and turned to dust). I will send this back out ASAP. postig pics later of the box as I received it. It looks as if it was dropped in a puddle then kicked! Nothing was hurt, which really blew me away.
Thanks to everyone who has gone before me,and a teaser for those after.........Would you rather have disco that works like butter or that explodes in the flame? I'll throw in my remixed version of non-shocky disco!!
Thanks,
Luke

[Toni L.]

Ummm...for those of you that have not checked out Jay's GA Gallery - I would suggest you do so. Holy cow! I know it's kinda girlie of me, but, well, I'm a girl. :)

What absolutely incredible, vibrant, pinks/reds - just gorgeous!
8)
toni

[baylie]

Well now that I went through this box of goodies,chased around my babies and had my dog explode in my kitchen, i am not as tickd at the mailman.
Jay you are the man. plain and simple. I really just want to grab all the gun mount color and stick out my tounge, but I will resist the temptation. I have not decided what I am keeping yet, but I am throwing in a bag of assorted heart millies that I made myself, some of my remixed disco,a grip of borostix white and purple,Small marble/bead mold, and some pre twisted lattycane, and some samples of a few of the colors in my recipe booklet........ more to come.
Oh, I can sharpen the tungstun probes into picks if anyone wants me to while I have them here.

[baylie]

Ummm...for those of you that have not checked out Jay's GA Gallery - I would suggest you do so. Holy cow! I know it's kinda girlie of me, but, well, I'm a girl. :)

What absolutely incredible, vibrant, pinks/reds - just gorgeous!
8)
toni
Wow those are some sweet pieces of art!

[boroburner]

Got back a little while ago from chasing down the mailman, it looks like the box got drop kicked!!!

Ne chance the borobox could become a borotupperware? I made the change a coupla yrs ago and have only ever lost 1 piece, due to damage in shipping.
B

[e. mort]

Ne chance the borobox could become a borotupperware? I made the change a coupla yrs ago and have only ever lost 1 piece, due to damage in shipping.
B

Borotupperware? :-k

Eric

[baylie]

Borotupperware? :-k

Eric
instead of cardboard?makes sense

[suzanne]

You guys are having so much fun already! I am still very happy I can be in on this! There are so many good things included in the box!!! I already have an idea what to put in, this is soo cool!

Suzanne

[Juln]

Wow, this sounds like fun.
I'm looking forward to participating - but I'm going to a show soon.
Just in case, please don't send me the package until after April 29th!! I'd hate for the package to sit around here waiting for me to return.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Thanks for letting me know Juln! Have a great show!

Next up is:

valerie folly

Have fun!

[Tanya]

Oh, I can sharpen the tungstun probes into picks if anyone wants me to while I have them here.

That would be nice for somebody down the line. I haven't sharpened mine since I recently got a nice tungsten bent rake. I know there's some sort of liquid you can use to sharpen tungsten, but I don't have that. Drew Fritts (I think it's in his book) talks about grinding it. I think he also talks about bending it (although I could be dreaming about that one.) In one of Kervin's books, there are pictures of the tweezers Akihiro Ohkama uses, which are regular tweezers with tungsten tips. They look great.

[boroburner]

I seem to remember hearing that the liquid for sharpening tungsten is some sorta acid?? Maybe im wrong, but it seems to ring a bell. Ne one know 4sure?

The tupperware is awsome. Just make sure you get the flexible kind not the rigid ones or itll be brittle. I drill holes in the lid and box and secure it with zapstraps. Works like a charm......... If your shipping something really valuable do a box inside a box with foam in between. Itlll be bulletproof.
B

[e. mort]

I didn't realize that they made tupperware stuff so big. You mean sort of like those rubbermaid storage containers that you can buy at Target?

Eric

[boroburner]

Thats exactly what i mean. You gotta get the blue soft rubber one though, and they should have all differnt sizes from like 1L up to 150L. So to "bullet proof" it youd put say a 5L box into a 10L box, that should give enough room for about 1" of foam between the boxes all the way around.(all measurments are hypothetical) Then zap the hell outta the top.
B

[Karen Hardy]

Nope - not targeting anyone. Just making mention of it. 8-[
10 years? Wow - I can tell...your marbles are just smokin!
Especially the colors - how the heck do you get such great pinks and
purples???


I assume you are refering to me ? EVERYTHING I put In is Boro , Or boro compatible ... I've been working Boro for about 10 years now... I have a nice collection of boro stuff ...maybe it is just stuff you have never heard of ... some of the stuff I put in hasn;t been made in over 8 years..... I didn't see anything that wasn;t Boro when it got to me, and I looked everything over pretty well... so ....there should be no worries.....so far....

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

bumpity bump bump

[baylie]

Hope to go through box and pull out what I am keeping tonight, sorry If I am holding it up. This is the first day I have had it That I could actually send it out, and I have a flat tire!!! I hope to get a ride to the USPS tomorrow. I will PM the tracking # to Valerie and she can update everyone as to the progress of the package. I don't feel comfortable posting the # where any troll could see it, this # would give the home addy of the reciepiant to whoever.....

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Delivery confirmation # thru USPS states the city and state, not the exact address.

Any updates baylie?

[baylie]

4/20 snuck up on me... crushed with rush orders.. maybe in mail tomorrow?

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

This is updated:

valerie folly* is up next!


FlowerVal *
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
e.mort *
Flamedancer *
Karen Hardy *
boroburner *
Cosmo *

butterflykj*
suzanne *
Toni L *
rustic studio*

Already received the BoroBox:
Tanya
jayglass
baylie

[baylie]

just pulled what i wanted put alittle asideto throw in. Off the torch and bouncin baby on knee for a minute or 2. back to torch as soon as little grumpy passes out...I should get er out tomorrow, with luck...

[FlameDancer]

Hurry, hurry, hurry...I WANT that box!!! LOL Can you tell I'm being impatient? And, I'm not even next:( Have fun Valerie

[Over the Moon]

I heartily agree! Come on - we ALL want to play!!! And I'm not even the next Val!!!!! :( This box has had a fabulous voyage so far, please let's keep it moving along..........

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Come on baylie.

[baylie]

No car = no O2. No O2 = no work. No work=No shipping money. I have been hustling my tush off to try and get back on my feet. I just got a car that runs yesterday,and I am sorry for anyone waiting. Everyone will get a personal goodie from me in the box. Butterflykj, calm down with the meanspirited PMs. I am not here to invoke your sense of karma. I am only 1 man trying to get by, my house burnt down and I asked for no help, car got stolen, no help, but I don't jump up and spend $$$ I don't have to speed along a box to its destination and you threaten me with BAD KARMA. I give till it hurts. I hope you calm down. It is on its way ASAP. I AM SORRYfor the wait and sorry for my rant as well. sorry

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Feel better now?
I really like how you are trying to put it off on me.
Nice, really nice.

PS If you have no money to send the Box on its way, COD it back to me and I'll get it moving.

[baylie]

[QUOTE=HardwoodTrailGlass]
I really like how you are trying to put it off on me.
???????????????

[Over the Moon]

Ok, ok - let's keep thing cool...
Baylie - as I am sure you are more than aware, everyone has been waiting on you for almost 2 weeks now. Since you have wheels, why don't you just please accept Carrie's kind and generous offer, and send it back to her COD??! I think that is the fair thing to do, and everyone, I know, will be pleased. So sorry for whatever misfortunes you are having, as I am sure everyone here is, but I understand and agree with Carrie's perspective. When we all signed on, we knew what we were signing on for, and I hope you keep the good karma and do the right thing!

[baylie]

Ok, ok - let's keep thing cool...
Since you have wheels, why don't you just please accept Carrie's kind and generous offer, and send it back to her COD??!!
Yeah, They don't take stuff on sunday.

[baylie]

On my way to the post office, will be back to puter in a few hours with the info.

[baylie]

its on its way.

[baylie]

I threw in most of the mandrel beads that I have made to this point. Don't know how to clean the release out so..... I also included a few pendants and a marble. I didn't get any pics so if you take some beads please post pics.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Thank you for the update baylie!

[suzanne]

Hey Carrie I had no idea who you where talking to me in the bathroom.....lol, I went ahead and did a search on your name, but I just found out you are miss butterfly!!! I am such a blonde sometimes..*sigh*
Anyway the boro beads are soooo cool to make! I just got lori robbins cookbook and I almost tore it up while opening the envelope, I wanted that book so bad!.
Another question if you don't mind, you placed me last on the list, are you the last person to receive the box after I have received it?

and what's with the northstar Jade? I have a rod here, is it something special??if so, I'll keep it:D , no just kidding, I'll toss it in the box;)

[baylie]

jade is alright on the surface of just about anything, but deeply encase it and.......BOOM...cracks and splodies!!

[Cosmo]

Yep. Jade is pretty frustrating sometimes. It looks nice, but it's finicky. Like baylie said, just don't encase it.

[Tanya]

Actually, I've had good results with the Jade I've used so far. I've made a few beads with it, including encased, and haven't had a problem so far. It's a bit tricky to work with because it needs to be heated more slowly, but once it's hot or covered with clear it's fine.

I heard somewhere that the problems with the color have been pretty much fixed.

[baylie]

Actually, I've had good results with the Jade I've used so far. I've made a few beads with it, including encased, and haven't had a problem so far. It's a bit tricky to work with because it needs to be heated more slowly, but once it's hot or covered with clear it's fine.

I heard somewhere that the problems with the color have been pretty much fixed.
When I say deep encasing, I mean DEEP encasing, such as 3 inch vortex marbs. If you can encase jade in that enviroment with out issues I bow to you. The new jade sucks as much or more than the old stuff. Most of the colors that NS makes have backslid in quality over the last two years, in my opinion. When I started out their color was consistant, now I never now batch to batch if it will be the same color.

[Tanya]

Thanks for the info Baylie. Yes, I understand my encasing doesn't compare, since my beads are very small compared to the work you're doing. I didn't realize the NS quality had gone down. And the day I can make ANY successful vortex marble, much less a 3" one, I'll certainly take your advice about the Jade! I don't like it all THAT much.

[Cosmo]

I have had a little luck with Jade (about 50% success) in things like beads. But I used to use it as leaves on my flower marbles, and every one broke. I never could figure out what I was doing wrong, but come to find out it was the color that was to blame. Now I use Precision Green Tea and don't have any problem at all.

[boroburner]

I thought NS stabalised the Jade? I bought some a coupla months ago and it worked fine. Old scool jade sucked balls, but i like the new stuff alright.
B

[Cosmo]

The rods I have are probably a year old. I've heard they changed it, but I don't know when the change took place, and I'm not brave enough to spend more money on it and possibly have the same result.

[baylie]

I thought NS stabalised the Jade? I bought some a coupla months ago and it worked fine. Old scool jade sucked balls, but i like the new stuff alright.
B
What application are you using it for?

[boroburner]

What application are you using it for?

And the answer is..........Anything i want:-P They fixed er good.

I was a lil nervous trying it out the firts time or two, but it works great! I think i bought a 1/2 lb like 6mos ago? maybe it was an exceptional batch. I belive i still have some kickin around, ill put a bunch in da box when it gets to me.

B

[baylie]

And the answer is..........Anything i want:-P They fixed er good.
B
Can you be more specific?:-k

[boroburner]

I belive i made a couple of pendants. maybe a small marble too. all under clear.

I havent touched it for a bit. Im stuck doing production work for a minute. Was just looking for it in the rack and I couldnt find it. Maybe its hiding in my travel kit. Ill locate it b4 the box gets here.
B

[baylie]

Box already made it thru these parts, and I threw in all my old Jade, not much. So make sure and mark yours as new jade. Make sure and grab a chunk of the disco re-mix!! It looks sweet in stacked dot pendants.

[suzanne]

thanks for the info on the Jade.... I'll toss it in the box:D, for those who are daring enough to try it, I am not a green person anyway.

Have any of you tried the new momkas silver dance yet? I saw some beads made out of it the other day and they looked stunning!

[Lynn Larson]

thanks for the info on the Jade.... I'll toss it in the box:D, for those who are daring enough to try it, I am not a green person anyway.

Have any of you tried the new momkas silver dance yet? I saw some beads made out of it the other day and they looked stunning!
Yep, played with it a little bit! I plan on putting a rod in when the box gets to me :D

[Lynn Larson]

Wanna see what it does? Good :lol:

23191

[baylie]

Dems purty

[Lynn Larson]

Thanks baylie :D

[Cosmo]

Wanna see what it does? Good :lol:

23191

I particularly like the one on the right. It reminds me of a Josh Simpson marble I have (which isn't boro):

http://cosmoglassworks.com/marbles/simpson-infinity-1-1.jpg

[Lynn Larson]

Thanks Chad! That marble is incredible :D

[baylie]

How big is it?

[Cosmo]

It's about 1.75" or so. It's one of the Infinity Project marbles I got from him. This is the other one: http://cosmoglassworks.com/marbles/simpson-infinity-2-1.jpg

[boroburner]

I found some jade frit yesterday. I made a quick lil jar with it, jade, a bit of star white frit and unencased crayon yellow lip wrap. No issues working it at all.
B

[Lynn Larson]

Sweeeeeeet!!

[boroburner]

thx.
B

[baylie]

Don't get me wrong, jade can be used in some apps. Just not by me or in my shop. why risk losing a piece cause the color 'might' work, when there are pleanty of colors that DO WORK? maybe it is just me..........

[boroburner]

It DOES work......its the new recipe. Ive had No problems with it at all. Ill make a bunch more jars tonight with it.
B

[baylie]

It DOES work......its the new recipe. Ive had No problems with it at all. Ill make a bunch more jars tonight with it.
B
try makin somthing BIG and THICK? That jar was pretty small and not lookin too thick. New recipe be damned, I've got to see it actually work in a large piece. As I said it may work in some apps, just not in anything I make. I don't usually do lil' frit jars, I make big stuff with welds and multiple garagings. It doesn't work in my apps so I don't use it.
So boroburner how long you been in the glass game?

[WhiskerWood]

oh man, now that I am loving Boro I wish I could have gotten in on this box!!!

I made more boro beads last night, I used up my little rod of blue moon and the beads came out really pretty!
I am off to go clean them and get pics, I will post them later today.

I want in on the next boro box for sure!!!!!!!!

[baylie]

oh man, now that I am loving Boro I wish I could have gotten in on this box!!!

I made more boro beads last night, I used up my little rod of blue moon and the beads came out really pretty!
I am off to go clean them and get pics, I will post them later today.

I want in on the next boro box for sure!!!!!!!!
If you ask nice you might get in on the end of the list. I may be wrong.

[WhiskerWood]

If you ask nice you might get in on the end of the list. I may be wrong.

OH OH OH PRETTY PLEASE!!!!!!
With lots and lots of sugar on top?!?!?!?! :grin:


I guess I should really find out who I have to ask... lol

[boroburner]

try makin somthing BIG and THICK? That jar was pretty small and not lookin too thick. New recipe be damned, I've got to see it actually work in a large piece. As I said it may work in some apps, just not in anything I make. I don't usually do lil' frit jars, I make big stuff with welds and multiple garagings. It doesn't work in my apps so I don't use it.
So boroburner how long you been in the glass game?

Ill stuff a bunch in a big ol' marble instead of another jar.

Hey Nicole the box will be in BC visiting me, maybe you could jump in then.:-k
B

[boroburner]

oh.... Ive been lamping aboot 7yrs. All boro.
B

[baylie]

Ill stuff a bunch in a big ol' marble instead of another jar
Thats what I'm talkin 'bout!

[baylie]

So boroburner how long you been in the glass game? So?

[WhiskerWood]

Ill stuff a bunch in a big ol' marble instead of another jar.

Hey Nicole the box will be in BC visiting me, maybe you could jump in then.:-k
B

That would be great!
Although I am not sure what I could contribute other than rods at this point being so new to boro and all...

Oh hey are you going to Glass Smith this next Sunday???
I am heading over to Victoria on Saturday to get my tattoo worked on and then on Sunday I will be at Glass Smith...
Hope to see you there! :)

[boroburner]

Nicloe...........Im not the one in charge of where the box goes, i belive its Carrie youll have to ask. I was just saying it wouldnt be too far outta the way. Whats @ Glass Smith on sunday???

Baylie........... ive been lamping boro for almost 7 yrs now.
Marble is in the kiln. Opal, Perriwinkle, white rod interior coarted with a binch o green frit then caramel, elvis, clear dots then spun. Lets hope northstar fixed the jade, I spent like an hour and a half on it.
B

[WhiskerWood]

There is some sort of glass people get together...
I already deleted the email :oops:
I know Nicole V. knows when and what's happening.
I will see if she still has the email.

[boroburner]

kewl is it invite only, or open house? Ive been meaning to stop in there. Maybe ill see you then.
B

[baylie]

Try putting the Jade on the inside of a big marble and you'll see what I mean.

[WhiskerWood]

It is an open house kind of thing... There will be people doing demos...
I will let you know the details as soon as someone resends me the email.

I do know it will be fun cause the two Nicole's will be there :grin:

[boroburner]

ill do my best to make it there, sounds like fun.

Baylie.... the jade is on the inside. Its about a 2"er so i imagine itll crack if theres issues.
B

[boroburner]

Heres the mib. Theres jade on the inside as well as outside. Sorry for the crappy pics.
B

[Cosmo]

Looks good. What red is that?

[boroburner]

elvis over caramel

[baylie]

So there is jade in that marb? I see it on the marb.

[boroburner]

well its partially cased. Jade is visible through the lense, between the pwinkle n' white.
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[baylie]

Ok maybe I am not clear, put some IN a marble. like deep inside,encased, like the inside of a vortex, then you'll see what I mean.

[WhiskerWood]

Ok maybe I am not clear, put some IN a marble. like deep inside,encased, like the inside of a vortex, then you'll see what I mean.

ok all of this suspense is killing me....

WHAT HAPPENS????

[boroburner]

OK OK Ill try again....#-o
B

[boroburner]

he thinks itll check.
B

[baylie]

ok all of this suspense is killing me....

WHAT HAPPENS????
It kills your marble and makes you wish you had not used jade in the first place.

[WhiskerWood]

It kills your marble and makes you wish you had not used jade in the first place.

LOL
How is that for vague???? :razz:

[baylie]

LOL
How is that for vague???? :razz:
Cracks, checks, explodes as i said eariler, it does not work. If it works for you on the outside, more power to ya. I still have yet to see it work well inside anything. I have seen a piece(hollow vessel)made by one of the best glass blowers i have had the luck to work with spontainously crack months after it was annealed properly. It was on the outside. I would not want to sell a piece that could crack or check later.

[suzanne]

Lynn those are so pretty!!! I can't wait to get mine:D:D:D:D , I believe customs just released my glass so a couple more days and I get to play with the silver dance as well!.

[valerie_folly]

In checking the USPS site, they say a notice was left for me....ha...I stopped at the PO (we do not have delivery on the island) and there was no notice. I will hunt it down in person tomorrow and let you all know. Can't wait!!!!!

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Thank you Valerie for the update and have fun tomorrow!

[valerie_folly]

The box has arrived! I have serious work and errands to do today but tonight I gonna have a look! Whoo hoo, I'll charge up the camera for a picture and look for a new box while I'm out. AN TIC I PAAAATION!

[baylie]

If you grab any of the beads out of the pile I tossed in could you post pics? I didn't get any, and those are mostly my pile of firsts.
thanks, Luke

[baylie]

So didja get into the box yet?

[valerie_folly]

I did!
I put in
4 1/2 rods MOMKA mix I can't remember what you call these rods, one is Infinity - all different
8 bags GA frit - variety
1 rod cherry wood - I'm not sure about this color
1 rod blue caramel
1 rod DAP
1 rod blue lustre
1 rod blue lagoon
1 rod indigo lustre
1 rod NS turqouisa
3 samples Ven Bead frit - coral passion, amber mist, funky cosmos
bead pen blank
SS bangle bracelet with bead huggers - you can change these out with diff beads
SS change a bead pendant
rubber bracelet
few beads in a box
scrap boro diachroic

present for Carrie - it's wrapped in pink tissue & marked



I took out
rods of
butterscoth
amazon nights
obsidian
sunset orange
unmarked violet rod - opague
3 beads by ?Baylie?
some black satin cord
a little leather cord
pendant with tealish swirl
SS chain
1 toe ring
2 2mm clear rods
2 bags of frit - indigo and yellow
sm marble mold - oh -thank you Tanya!!
3 heart millis

I left my camera in the studio so I'll post pictures when I can. I will repack the box in the next day or two, I hope the box is big enough - I need some tape and I'll get it off to WHO????

[baylie]

The bag chock full of beads and pendants was stuff I made. Make sure and grab a hunk of the disco remix, little dots under clear dots look like a disco ball!! How do you like the heart millies? they were my first batch with that optic mold.

[valerie_folly]

I love the pendant. What am I looking for with disco remix, is it rod? Perhaps if I knew what it was packed with I could ID it.

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Wow! Thank you Valerie for the update and listing all the goodies you put in and took out!!! :waving:



Next up:


e. mort

I'll PM you his address.

[baylie]

Take a look at the discoisdead LONGLIVEDISCO thread, lotsa pics. The list says how many chunks there are, they are all about 6-7 inches long. Was I less than clear on the list what was what?

[baylie]

I love the pendant. What am I looking for with disco remix, is it rod? Perhaps if I knew what it was packed with I could ID it.
Which pendant?
And if you have a scanner could you scan in the list of what I took out and put in? I can't find my copy and I wanted to post it...

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

This is updated:

e.mort* is up next!

FlowerVal *
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
Flamedancer *
Karen Hardy *
boroburner *
Cosmo *

HardwoodTrailGlass* (oops! not butterflykj anymore)
suzanne *
Toni L *
rustic studio*



Already received the BoroBox:
Tanya
jayglass
baylie
valerie folly

[Tanya]

Valerie - glad you could use the marble mold! I set it on fire (the handle) with a flying hot marble (punty problems) so I ordered an infinite rim mold. Then I realized I could switch the burnt handle with a tool I never use. Then I realized I would never use the marble mold now that I have the infinite rim mold. Hoped somebody could.

[baylie]

The SMALLER of the two molds was put in by yours truley. they are pretty much the same, I just put in a smaller version.

[Juln]

I'm back, and ready for the mystic box, should it come my way!

[baylie]

I'm back, and ready for the mystic box, should it come my way!
From where?

[baylie]

Didja find a stick of disco remix?

[boroburner]

not gonna let nicole in on it?
B

[WhiskerWood]

That's ok, it did say the box list was closed quite a while ago.
I would not want to cause any trouble by having the rules changed for me...
If you let me in then you might have to let a bunch of other people in.
I totally understand and I am cool with it. I will get in on the next one :)

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

not gonna let nicole in on it?
B

Ok, ok. The pressure is killing me.
I can squeeze Nicole in while it's up there in Canada. I need your address.

Please remember the rules to keep this moving along. Thank you. :-D

[baylie]

Any pics of the beads ya pulled out?

[suzanne]

I wanna see all the stuff everyone pulled out!!! So baylie do you have a website or something where I can look at your stuff *curious minds*.
I haven't done a lot of boro yet but I love the stuff, from the first bead I made I totaly fell in love with moretti's cute big brother;)

[suzanne]

Oh forgot, any of you tried Paula's ( the veneral bead sp) boro frit mixes yet? I ordered three different colors just this morning, can't wait to receive it, I love frit!

[baylie]

I wanna see all the stuff everyone pulled out!!! So baylie do you have a website or something where I can look at your stuff *curious minds*.
I haven't done a lot of boro yet but I love the stuff, from the first bead I made I totaly fell in love with moretti's cute big brother;)
I have stuff posted on glasspipes.org under the name papabaylie, and on classyglass.biz

[WhiskerWood]

Ok, ok. The pressure is killing me.
I can squeeze Nicole in while it's up there in Canada. I need your address.

Please remember the rules to keep this moving along. Thank you. :-D

Thank you!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a class at Momka's on June 5th, I wonder if I will get the box before or after that???
I hope it is after because then I will be able to get some good stuff from Momka's!

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[valerie_folly]

Well dang, I can't get my pictures resized to save my life. I'll keep working on it but tonight I will repack the box so I can get it out to TX tomorrow! I'll take a look for the disco one more time - I found the pictures from the thread.

[baylie]

the disco is the stuff that looks like a disco ball...
Take a look at the disco is dead LONG LIVE DISCO thread

[baylie]

Top picture is disco and disco remix
Top stick is disco, bottom remix
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j287/Lbaylie/disco/DCAM1248.jpg
remix all by its beautiful lonsome
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j287/Lbaylie/disco/DCAM1250.jpg
and as soon as I posted it I noticed you said you saw these, hehehe

[Over the Moon]

Hey Val - thanks for moving this right along...some of us (and we know who we are...) are waiting for the magic box to get to us........I said it before...can't wait!
Oh, and Carrie - now that I know where you are - or rather what Hardwood Trail is all about, it's a wonder that you took the time to get thiis all together for us! You rock! And hey..."I'm coming home..." LOL

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Good morning Val! Yes, "Come home to Hardwood Trail"..........I can still hear the lady's voice LOL

On another note, thank you Valerie for keeping us updated! I hate taking pictures and uploading, etc. I wish there was a 'Photo Fairy' who did it all while I was sleeping! :biggrin:

Updated list:

e.mort* is up next!

FlowerVal *
Lynn Larson *
Juln *
Flamedancer *
Karen Hardy *
boroburner *
Cosmo *
rustic studio*
WhiskerWood Studio *

HardwoodTrailGlass* (oops! not butterflykj anymore)
suzanne *


Already received the BoroBox:
Tanya
jayglass
baylie
valerie folly

Thank you to everyone who has already had the BoroBox and shared what you have! You guys/gals are awesome!!! =D>

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

Valerie has sent the BoroBox on to e.mort
Delivery Confirmation # 0305 2710 0001 1656 8629

Thanks again!

[baylie]

Any chance of getting some pictures of the beads?pendants?
Didja find the disco?

[baylie]

Valerie folly, are you gonna post some pics? C'mon!!

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

baylie, here is the list of what you took out and what you put in.
If it's wrong, let us know.

baylie took out:

Momka Caribbean Coral
Momka Autumn Swirl
Momka Christmas
Momka Amethyst Ice
NS Blue Moon
NS Mystery
NS Pomegranate
NS Hyacinth
NS DAP
NS Yellow
NS Periwinkle
NS Canary
NS Lava
NS Striking Orange
GA Chameleon
GA Peacock Chameleon
½ stick Disco
2 Green Glasstronix
2 Purple Glasstronix
25.4mm Heavy Weight Tubing – 1 piece
19.5 mm Heavy Weight Tubing – 3 pieces
10mm rod – 2 pieces
Silver Foil – entire book
4 millie chips
NS Yellow Frit
NS DAP frit
GA Indigo Luster Frit
NS Mystery Frit
A “handful” of each gunmount color: White, Tan, Pink, Green, and Off white.
3 opals
Gold - entire book

baylie put in:

Momka Black Rose – ½ stick. (I think this was ½ of a sample set short rod)
NS Bubblegum - 1 stick
NS Jade - 1 stick
NS Avocado - 1 stick
NS Forest Green - 1 stick
NS Transparent Green - 1 stick
3 pieces boro Latticino
9 pieces disco remix
2 pieces color from drill mixing tutorial
12 grams of Millie Chips
Borostix White - 24 pieces
Borostix Grape - 54 pieces
Small Graphite bead/marble mold
1 tiny piece Moldavite
1 large Pendant
1 Mushroom Pendant
1 small marble
36 Mandrel Beads (2 broke during shipping)
1 Piece Graphite Rod
25 grams pre-mixed frit

Also I am wondering who cut rods in 1/2 and took part out and left the other?

[baylie]

I think you read it wrong I put in over 20 stix of boro stix white and over 50 stix of their purple. I also put in a mold and a big mess of frit.And what about the pile of millies I made myself.
I did not have my camera when I was packing the box and i guess That IS my fault. I believe I put in way more in $$$ wise and Those beads were thrown in as a gift to all of you. Sorry I suck so bad. If you count stick by stick what I took out and put in you'll see I was fair. I hope whoever gets the colors I sweat to make and share like them. I won't bother you asking for pics.... Didn't realize I had been such a burden

[baylie]

I just notice that you said I took a book of gold!! NO, I took a 2 inch piece of gold wire.

[Kalera]

Looking over what Baylie put in, it looks like the dollar value of what he put in is quite a bit greater than the dollar value of what he took out. The variety is less because he put in greater quatities of single colors, but how does that hurt anyone? It just means that more people will get to try the Disco and the Grape and White Borostix. And nice handmade boro millies are pretty valuable to those who use them.

[MsBaylie]

So I would like to put my two cents in. (I had to start a new account, because for some reason my other account didn't work?)

I'm the one who wrote the original list of items that Baylie took out/put in, and I saw firsthand what the sizes of the various items were, etc. Now lets look over the list to compare...

Took out- 904g (approx) of color rod (including the gunmount colors)
Put in- 801g (approx) of color rod (including borostix)

Took out- 40g of various frit
Put in- 25g of pre-mixed frit

Took out- 4 sm millie chips (approx a gram)
Put in- 12 grams millie chips

Took out- 3 Small opals
Put in- 1 "Small" piece of moldavite (which was substantially larger than the three opals put together if I recall....)
(and I do recall quite clearly)

Took out- one small (2-3 inches long of very fine gauge) piece of gold wire
Put in- 15g latticino
a small graphite marble mold
a piece of graphite rod

and a number of beads and pendants as gifts to the people further down the line So, sorry if any of them broke, but I did list them as gifts and my Mamma always taught me it was rude to criticize a gift...

And as for "who put in the half rods" wouldn't know... maybe you should look over the previous posts.

I'm going to stop now, before I start ranting incoherently....

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

baylie and Msbaylie, why didn't you post what you took out and put in before?
If the list is wrong, then it is, but if you would've posted in first place, then there wouldn't be any questions :-k

[HardwoodTrailGlass]

and a number of beads and pendants as gifts to the people further down the line So, sorry if any of them broke, but I did list them as gifts and my Mamma always taught me it was rude to criticize a gift...

And as for "who put in the half rods" wouldn't know... maybe you should look over the previous posts.

I'm going to stop now, before I start ranting incoherently....

Msbaylie,
I am sorry, but I've received some really sad 'gifts' in my time. If someone is giving me something, is it out of love or just to give a gift? There is a difference and it is apparent immediately.
I haven't personally 'seen' what is in the BoroBox since it left my house, but I did read in one of baylie's posts that he put beads in with bead release, because he didn't know how to clean it out. Is this right?

I really don't appreciate your smartass comment of "maybe you should look over the previous posts"
I asked 'who cut the rods in 1/2?'? took 1/2 and left the other, that's it. If I knew I wouldn't have asked. If it wasn't you, then why should you care?

Once again, if y'all had posted what you put in and what you took out in the first place, who knows, maybe there wouldn't be all the hooplah now.

Just my 2 cents.........

[Over the Moon]

Sorry I suck so bad. If you count stick by stick what I took out and put in you'll see I was fair. I hope whoever gets the colors I sweat to make and share like them. I won't bother you asking for pics.... Didn't realize I had been such a burden

Baylie, I never said you "suck so bad", nor that you've been a "burden"...
Please everyone, let's not get melodramatic....

Personally, the thing that peeved me the most was taking away other people's choices (or rather limiting them). To have traded 25 colors for 7 just does not seem right....of course, that's coming from a true addict, and variety IS the spice of life.

I have to agree with Carrie though, if you would have just simply followed the "rules" all along, we could have avoided these issues.

Here's hoping our box will move along happily from here on...

[FlameDancer]

baylie, here is the list of what you took out and what you put in.
If it's wrong, let us know.

baylie took out:

Momka Caribbean Coral
Momka Autumn Swirl
Momka Christmas
Momka Amethyst Ice
NS Blue Moon
NS Mystery
NS Pomegranate
NS Hyacinth
NS DAP
NS Yellow
NS Periwinkle
NS Canary
NS Lava
NS Striking Orange
GA Chameleon
GA Peacock Chameleon
½ stick Disco
2 Green Glasstronix
2 Purple Glasstronix
25.4mm Heavy Weight Tubing – 1 piece
19.5 mm Heavy Weight Tubing – 3 pieces
10mm rod – 2 pieces
Silver Foil – entire book
4 millie chips
NS Yellow Frit
NS DAP frit
GA Indigo Luster Frit
NS Mystery Frit
A “handful” of each gunmount color: White, Tan, Pink, Green, and Off white.
3 opals
Gold - entire book

baylie put in:

Momka Black Rose – ½ stick. (I think this was ½ of a sample set short rod)
NS Bubblegum - 1 stick
NS Jade - 1 stick
NS Avocado - 1 stick
NS Forest Green - 1 stick
NS Transparent Green - 1 stick
3 pieces boro Latticino
9 pieces disco remix
2 pieces color from drill mixing tutorial
12 grams of Millie Chips
Borostix White - 24 pieces
Borostix Grape - 54 pieces
Small Graphite bead/marble mold
1 tiny piece Moldavite
1 large Pendant
1 Mushroom Pendant
1 small marble
36 Mandrel Beads (2 broke during shipping)
1 Piece Graphite Rod
25 grams pre-mixed frit

Also I am wondering who cut rods in 1/2 and took part out and left the other?

UNBELIEVABLE!!! ](*,)

[baylie]

Kalera, Thank you for pointing out that what I put in was as valuable if not more so than what I took out. I can't understand how everyone can be so angry without even SEEING THE CONTENTS OF THE BOX. And ragging on me for leaving bead release in the GIFTS I included? I am not a bead maker. I am a GLASSBLOWER.I thought someone might point me towards a tip on how to clean them in the future. Those were the bulk of ALL the beads I have made. Ever. Sorry if you didn't like them. Oh, wait the person complaining has not even seen a single thing she is complaining about!
I am throwing out my release and mandrels, because when I see them all I will be able to think about is how much I am despised over an attempt to join the ranks of you 'beadmakers'. Damn

[baylie]

Baylie, I never said you "suck so bad", nor that you've been a "burden"...
Please everyone, let's not get melodramatic....

Here's hoping our box will move along happily from here on...

No, but it is clear I have been one. And I am not close to melodramatic. I have tried to come at this with logic not emotion. My wife broke down the numbers, I guess that is dramatic.