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magpiejst
2005-07-29, 2:16pm
Has anyone ever seen or used this?
WhiskerWood
2005-07-29, 2:34pm
He has them here at the Gathering too!!!
Very Neat!!!! :biggrin:
magpiejst
2005-07-29, 2:48pm
ooooo. do you think if i ask for one in pif i'll get one?
:doubt: :doubt: :roll: :grin: :roll: :doubt: :doubt:
Silver Mist Studios
2005-07-29, 2:52pm
We bought one and sent it back.
Not to bash the product or anything though.
Jude Rose
2005-07-29, 6:54pm
I saw it in action at teh Milwaukee B & B show.
I wouldn't buy it. Not my style.
I have more opinions but I don't want to harm anyone.
BillBrach
2005-07-29, 7:25pm
Sorry if this sounds rude or whatever, but if you can't spin a mandrel properly, you probably ought to get into another hobby !!!
ltsexpressions
2005-07-29, 8:07pm
Sorry if this sounds rude or whatever, but if you can't spin a mandrel properly, you probably ought to get into another hobby !!!
although I have a customer who only has ONE arm who might be able to make beads with it that I'm sure would make us all think about the positive uses of a tool like this..... maybe it has a place with people like that...
My DGf was told not to use power tools after his stroke and it would have KILLED him if he had..... That man could do MORE with one hand than most people I know with two... and much of his work was on a scroll saw...
my 0.02,
stacy
Silver Mist Studios
2005-07-29, 8:13pm
Neat idea, but when you see it up close and in person... couldn't justify the cost. You slow it down by forcing it by holding the spinner as it spins. It had electrical tape holding it together, nothing covering the battery, and a little wheel with a little rubber band type thing spinning it. You also have to get the mandrel in there 100% perfect the glass won't wrap evenly cause it will spin all crooked.
Sorry just our input from our purchase. We sent it back next day, I didn't want to be rude or hurt their feelings... but when they asked I told them we couldn't justify that amount of money for something we felt would break easily and was so hard to manipulate.
ltsexpressions
2005-07-29, 8:20pm
Neat idea, but when you see it up close and in person... couldn't justify the cost. You slow it down by forcing it by holding the spinner as it spins. It had electrical tape holding it together, nothing covering the battery, and a little wheel with a little rubber band type thing spinning it. You also have to get the mandrel in there 100% perfect the glass won't wrap evenly cause it will spin all crooked.
Sorry just our input from our purchase. We sent it back next day, I didn't want to be rude or hurt their feelings... but when they asked I told them we couldn't justify that amount of money for something we felt would break easily and was so hard to manipulate.
Misty,
I had read your comment and it was completely understandable... it was not your "tone" I was reacting to........
Silver Mist Studios
2005-07-29, 8:25pm
Oh I know! I just wanted to be honest about our purchase, but at the same time I dont want to come off as bashing them... yanno?
I mean I have very little hand dexterity and I wouldn't even use it.
BillBrach
2005-07-30, 4:43am
Like I said, I wasn't trying to be rude or insensitive. It just seems to me that if you REQUIRED a device like this to make beads, then it might be best to try something that is more easily done. As an example, something like painting might be better.
Lets assume one handed or one armed for a second. Think about the safety aspect of trying to "balance" the tasks of torch control, mandrel control, AND rod control. with just one hand. I'm not saying it is impossible, I'm just saying there is a steep learning curve. Theoritically, you could have some custom devices made that you could control with a foot, knee, or elbow to control things.
And Misty, big <<HUGS>> to you for trying this device and reporting on it. The first time I saw it it looked a little flimsy to me too. I guessed that the prototype was probably made by someone to assist a person with a handicap, and that was a good thing to do.
And Stacy, your DGf (I don't know this acronym) deserves MUCH praise for giving woodworking a try. A scroll saw is perfect because if it is bolted down, it is pretty safe to use even with limited mobility. I've learned that dealing with a handicap is much more about the mental aspect than the physical. I've been on crutches for almost 6 weeks and I learned (and witnessed) a LOT about handicap people and facilities, such as doors, stairs, and even parking spaces.
What WOULD work well for a one handed person would be a glass lathe. Unfortunately, they start at about $10,000 for a good used one.
magpiejst
2005-07-30, 12:47pm
Hey, thank you to everyone who weighed in on this.
I was really curious. The brief videos on Scott's site are fascinating to watch and I was just amazed that someone went to the trouble to create this. In my first beadmaking class we were speculating about sticking a mandrel into a cordless drill
8-[
to see if it would spin more evenly than we could...
judy
JavaGirlBT
2005-07-30, 2:15pm
I saw him demo this at open torch last night. It is a really cool device.
ltsexpressions
2005-07-30, 2:26pm
DGf (I don't know this acronym) deserves MUCH praise for giving woodworking a try. A scroll saw is perfect because if it is bolted down, it is pretty safe to use even with limited mobility.
Bill,
first off, I probably should have my foot in my mouth for spouting off! that said, ty for the compliments for my DGf (Dear Grandfather) as he did AWESOME woodwork before and AFTER his stroke. I still have furniture he made and live in a house he built. I just know that if it had been taken from him after the stroke, he would have had little joy to live for... and he didn't have much with the stroke, diabetes, parkinson's, and moving from his home...
I do understand and appreciate your insights. It's just, as a clinical social worker, working with people in mental health, I see feats of determinism and faith work wonders daily. I also, of course, see feats of defeatism and anger work their destruction daily.
(btw, I thought it looked a little "unfinished" too for the money they want!)
Stacy
Hi All -
I just want to say a couple of things please. Ditto to everything that Kimberly says and MORE ! I HAVE this tool and have absolutely no regrets in purchasing it. Scott and Monica are FABULOUS people ! The best customer service ! All the help you could ever want with this tool. I had a problem with mine and they replaced it NO PROBLEM with a brand new one. I have been using it nearly every time I sit at the torch and haven't had a single problem.
If you have hand problems, carpal tunnel, arthritis, cramping - this IS the tool for you ! Think about it, it spins that mandrel for you and that alone will save you from injury which DOES happen with repetitve work. No matter WHAT repetitive work you are doing. Lampworking is no exception.
The very first time I saw this tool listed on auction, it was a no brainer for me and I snatched it up immeditatley ! NO regrets at all and I'd buy a second one if I needed it ! lol ! :-D
If you ever get a chance to try it, do. You will be amazed !
Thanks,
Debbie A.
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