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HannahRachel
2013-02-02, 9:47am
Hi again! I promised this tutorial over a year ago and its super easy, but for some reason I only got around to it this week.

Upcycled Glass Bottle Beads are super easy to make, but I've had loads of questions about how to deal with the shards of glass without them shattering when the flame hits them. I tend to pull them into cane to store them and I preheat the finished cane in a kiln when I'm ready to use them.

Remember, these bottles might not all be the same COE, so I tend to make them into single-color beads. So, your first thing to do is to get some bottles!

Lets take a look at some of the ones I like to use.

BROWN BEER BOTTLES
Brown beer bottles tend to make pretty scummy cane. They boil a lot. I still really like them because the finished beads look rougher, which makes for some nice "upcycled texture."
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWpQApPDp2tjHUFGnEGKN1iPjHD02HD CnScjHhVQRl-VYrQYy4 https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpPcZhtFurM9xnG8i9NQkv9O0PmkPYr kyvx1MA8eT-fsc8pOTQ

GREEN BEER BOTTLES
Heinekein beer bottles are great to pull into cane. They are smooth to work with and don't shatter easily when you reintroduce them to the flame.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFzl_ADRuROx2uz6V8h7SLkf-0JdJxzeOopyqg_ZHoxMw5NGqbMQ

WHITE WINE BOTTLES
White wine bottles come in a whole range of color, but I like these light olivine bottles the best. They are super creamy to work with and just have a wodnerful color to them.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3qwaoNtkL7eXtX0C5xQP79DjaOcEjZ AAZffiekt0lbVXhEjPo

RED WINE BOTTLES
These also come in a whole range of colors. The darker ones just read as black when you make a bead. I don't use these a whole lot. The clear bottles get really scummy in the flame.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSl5_-iGN2vSohsPgd14yXZt8NGLYyUWpsmELvGu3nxny_9zaVapg

SAPPHIRE GIN BOTTLE
LOVE this color bottle for beads. It can be a little shocky to work with though, so I make sure to pull canes and then preheat the canes in the kiln.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSiki-rO0Etn1YpRu89IBxjPIsYZq0JKUA1PxjlZVVAR-T9a863qQ

SKY VODKA
Makes a clear, good cobalt blue bead. This is the glass I'll use for this tutorial.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRamEdrZr-XvAEgJHSR-yTU9prnid-wTqGcrfKZT72zBWas659L6Q
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edited to add - because of a few people from this thread, I'm adding Bud Platinum, which I've never tried, but apparently works out beautifully.
http://assets.bizjournals.com/houston/news/bd.jpg?v=1

HannahRachel
2013-02-02, 9:59am
So... you got your bottles, but you know, they are a little big to work with directly. So, get yourself a box and a set of glasses and dust mask and a good metal hammer. Head outside. Put your bottle into the box, slip on your dust mask and glasses, and give that bottle a couple of good taps. I actually set my bottle into the box, and cover most of it with the box flaps. I leave just enough to see what I'm up to. You want some shards that are about 4."

Grab those shards - throw the rest of the box away. Its full of glass dust. Remember, the edges are really sharp!

Throw those shards into a kiln and ramp it up. I work at 950, and I just ramp up at full, but if you are worried about the shards cracking, you can ramp it up at a slower rate.

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Once the shards are at full temperature, you'll pull them out with tweezers (or hemostats) and attach them to a punty. I use a 1/8" mandrel. You'll need to heat the punty to glow and also the shard. You can actually make a bead directly from this shard, and lots of times I do, but its sometimes easier to do detailed shapes when its in a cane.

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HannahRachel
2013-02-02, 10:00am
Next, you'll be heating that shard until its all gooey and starts to flop around. I actually fold it up on itself, but its really important to not let air get caught in it, otherwise your finished cane will be super shocky. If you do get bubbles in there, you can super heat that area until they rise to the surface and pop. Continue to heat until you have a good blob. You're going to need to add a second punty, so you can actually do that at the beginning, so you have more control over your molten glass.

Heat your glass until its all glowing. If you haven't already added that second punty, now is the time to do it. You want it to be evenly glowing and a good round or oval shape.

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Pull your glowy molten mass out of the flame and wait for a "skin" to appear on it. Start pulling, slowly and gently. When the cane reaches and thickness you like, you can blow on that area to "set" it. Since heat rises, you'll be able to tip the hotter area upwards and continue to pull until you have a cane. The one I'm working on here is pretty short, but its a good starting point for you.

As a side note, it looks like I'm pulling this in the flame, but it actually isn't. Its all in front of the flame.

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Break off the punties and either immediately use your cane or place it in the kiln while you make others.

Here, I'm making a bead from my blue cane (remember to hold it with hemostats or tweezers since its just come from the kiln)... You can see where my cane has cracked a little. This is because I was waving the whole thing around too long while I fussed with the camera.

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And here are some finished recycled glass beads! The first beads are done "freehand." The second set were done using a zoozii large gem press.
http://www.goodrivergalleries.com/Add%20to%20Website/UpscaledGlass/P7150454.JPG
http://www.goodrivergalleries.com/Add%20to%20Website/UpscaledGlass/P7150452.JPG

HAVE FUN! Now, lets see what you've made!

Ronnie_Renee
2013-02-02, 10:25am
Thanks Hannah.....How cool is that!

rosebud101
2013-02-02, 11:12am
Thanks, Hannah!!!!!

kartwheel
2013-02-02, 12:18pm
Inspiring! Thanks Hannah.

caliente
2013-02-02, 12:25pm
Great tut, Hannah! I've put out a call for lovely coloured bottles :)

Thanks!

Jupiter
2013-02-02, 4:42pm
I have a couple of Blue Sapphire gin bottles waiting to be smashed and melted but i wasn't sure the best way to do it. Excellent tutorial Hannah thank you.

HannahRachel
2013-02-02, 8:32pm
Thanks for all the kind words! Have fun, and please photograph your finished beads in either this thread or the one in the gallery.

Has anyone noticed my little studio snail? I got him in Prague, Czech Republic years ago and he's made out of stoneware, but I keep trying to remake him in glass... He's in the corner of several of my photos...

Zeke
2013-02-03, 3:02pm
Holy Hannah, that is cool! I have a few cobalt blue wine bottle that I will have to try this on,

Thanks!

iloveglass
2013-02-03, 4:20pm
I took a recycled glass class with Bronwen Heilman and she has some excellent tips about finding which types of bottle glass are compatible to work with together. I am not sure if she is on LE but I am sure you could Google her about an upcoming class or perhaps she would be willing to share. Hope this is helpful - Di

HannahRachel
2013-02-04, 8:16am
Hi Di:
I would love to take a class with Bronwen, but actually I think I probably won't ask her to reveal her secrets to me for a freebie tutorial. :) Some things are really worth paying for, you know?

J. Savina
2013-02-04, 8:36am
What a doll you are for sharing this tutorial with us Hannah. :-) I think I'm definitely going to try this. I love the blue one. I also have a ton of scrap glass from stained glass projects I've done in the past. This would be a good way to melt that glass too and pull into cane.
Thank you so much for sharing. :-D

J.

alcyon
2013-02-04, 9:03am
Thank you for sharing this. Do you have any idea about an annealing schedule?

susanlambert
2013-02-04, 9:06am
I'm excited to try this! Thank you Hannah!

mcorey01
2013-02-04, 9:30am
I use the bottles several ways:
1) I first cut the bottle and make a glass cup for drinking out of it - You can either heat the edge or sand the edge to make sure it is not sharp
2) The left over portion of the bottle is to make shards - I use a cloth over the glass and break it
3) The top portion can be used as a funnel, broken for bead making as in number 2, or as a part of a wind chime, or anything else you can think of

Just like to recycle as much as possible

Robin Passovoy
2013-02-04, 10:29am
I've been playing with bottle glass for the past year or so--the stuff is ideal for hollow beads! I've found at least 30 distinct shades so far. I've also found that broken glassware from Pier 1 (if they are willing to sneak you treasure from their breakage bin on the sly) is a great source of material, and stained glass scrap is great fun. You can also get great results from aquarium gems--yes, those little glass pellets used to make your fishtank less boring until the algae devours them all. The glass used for the gems is very soft most of the time, even softer than 104 in some cases, but the colors are great and there is an enormous range of them. Beware of the oranges and reds, though: Those are all striking red at different stages of the striking process, and they tend to go opaque if overworked. Similarly, that sort of misty white/seashell pink transparent strikes white if you look at it cross-eyed and practically has to be worked over a votive candle.

iloveglass
2013-02-04, 10:54am
Yeah, I know what you mean Hanna. Her class is really worth it. I took a 3 hour class with her at Bead & Button last year and it was great.

yamaha200
2013-02-04, 11:09am
Be sure to clean out your bottles first. Burning beer smells horrible in your torch. Ask me how I know...

laura

HannahRachel
2013-02-04, 4:53pm
Laura: Omg, yes!

Check out this thread - Michelle just added a pretty shamballa-style (but you can't call it that on Etsy) bracelet using Bud Platinum bottles. She pulls cane differently than I do - she's awesome at it!
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194559

yamaha200
2013-02-04, 5:01pm
yes, Bud Platinum bottle is my favorite so far. These photos don't even do it justice but give you the idea at least. I found that using the shards directly off the hot plate they were not shocky at all, but if I pulled cane (and even if I annealed the cane using my standard 104 schedule), the cane turned out somewhat shocky. Weird.

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shirts
2013-02-04, 5:32pm
YAY!!!! Thank you so much, Hannah!! How super wonderful! NOW I have an idea of how to pull cane (though I bed I'm going to need TONS of practice!!). This is wonderful! Now I will be able to use all of the chunky bases of the bottles (they are all just sitting in a bowl, right now...!).
I used to think that the green of a red wine bottle was all the same - now I know how many different of hues of green there are! How wonderful that you shared your experiences with all of the different bottles. Thanks!
Very much looking forward to playing around!
Take care,
Annie

volkanokaren
2013-02-05, 6:51pm
Nice snail.Great tut.

Karen
Volkano Exotik

ripzz

HannahRachel
2013-02-05, 7:54pm
Thanks everyone!

I missed a question earlier from alcyon about annealing schedule. I ramp up at full to 950, keep the kiln at that temperature while I work, and then just shut the whole thing off. My kiln takes 4 hours to cool down to 200 degrees, at which point I'm either sacked out for the night and it cools naturally or I crack the kiln until it reaches about 150 and that seems to work fine plus it saves on electricity a tiny bit. If yours crashes more quickly, you might want to slow the ramp down a bit.

Box E Creations
2013-02-08, 8:05pm
Thank you for sharing. Your method is much simpler than the one I was creating in my mind. I will be asking friends and coworkers for bottle donations. And I have a beautiful blue wine bottle saved for up cycling

Raimond
2013-02-08, 10:55pm
What a doll you are for sharing this tutorial with us Hannah. :-)
J.

I agree, what a doll :wink:

Thanks for the tutorial, useful information.

Dragonharper
2013-02-09, 4:53am
When I want to make marbles from bottles I break the bottles up in a paper bag, one bottle at at time. Then I place the shards into a small, 1 - 2 inch, clay flower pot that has several coats of kiln wash on the inside. I then put the flower pots into the kiln and run it up to 1450 for about a half hour then back down to 950 for an hour, then down to 725 for a half an hour then down to 600 and off. This makes a nice puck to form into a marble. I have found that in this case it is much more efficient to make a batch of pucks than it is to try to melt it all at the torch. Electricity is cheaper than oxy. I imagine you could also pull the puck into rods if you wished.

Pickledkitty
2013-02-09, 9:52am
That is really interesting way to recycle the bottles, Dragonharper. It reminds me of the vitrigraph method, sans the hole. Thanks for sharing!

MagpieGlass
2013-02-09, 2:10pm
I played around with this about 2 years ago and have a ton of bottles saved up but haven't gotten back to it.

For extra decoration ... you can use 96 COE furnace glass frits in the 5% rule on your beads or add silver leaf, foil ... wire, etc. Just like you do on your 104 COE glass bead designs!!

GabiLoraine
2013-02-13, 12:15pm
I've been doing this too! Loves it. I didn't know about that blue Budweiser! I hope we have it locally!!! LOVE the color.

Max Hardcastle
2013-05-20, 8:54pm
When I want to make marbles from bottles I break the bottles up in a paper bag, one bottle at at time. Then I place the shards into a small, 1 - 2 inch, clay flower pot that has several coats of kiln wash on the inside. I then put the flower pots into the kiln and run it up to 1450 for about a half hour then back down to 950 for an hour, then down to 725 for a half an hour then down to 600 and off. This makes a nice puck to form into a marble. I have found that in this case it is much more efficient to make a batch of pucks than it is to try to melt it all at the torch. Electricity is cheaper than oxy. I imagine you could also pull the puck into rods if you wished.

Cool idea! I once saw a recycling tutorial for making glass cane only using the kiln. The guy took a terra cotta pot with a drain hole in the bottom (or maybe he drilled one, I can't remember) and loaded all the broken up bottle scraps into it (I assume from the same source to prevent COE-mixing). He then rigged his kiln so that the heating element was around the terra cotta pot, but that the kiln bottom had a hole in it. The kiln got hot enough to melt the glass and as the glass exited the pot through the hole it cooled off slightly, and created a continuous rod out the bottom of the kiln. It was really cool looking and I've always wanted to try it... just melting regular bottles and using the canes to make beads didn't work out too well for me - the glass shattered around the mandrel hole nine times out of ten...

The different colors y'all've been able to produce in this thread are excellent!

yamaha200
2013-05-20, 9:41pm
well, I asked DH to help make a little movie to show on the tablet in my booth for a show last weekend. I just discovered that he also posted it on youtube, so I guess if you'd like to see me pull down a some bottle chunks into rods and make beads, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG2VTA9C-Vw&feature=youtu.be

laura

Holly'sFolly
2013-05-21, 8:12am
I wanted to share the memory bead I made from the champagne bottle my niece and her hubby drank from at their wedding:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MJWo0lI4Egg/T2-QG4mY7vI/AAAAAAAAEto/4Qn67KeJIMg/s1600/gift.jpg

I actually framed it for them with a story:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HcNH6RlCZ2Y/T2-NCF2BGLI/AAAAAAAAEtg/exH9a3cnvNY/s1600/gift2.jpg

And I even wrote a photoshop tut (http://hollysfollybeads.blogspot.com/2012/03/memory-bead-wedding-gift.html)for making your text fit your bead.

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has anyone tried the Ty Nant bottles (http://www.tynant.com/main.aspx?pID=40-0)???? I have a red one I've been meaning to get to! You can find them at a Bev Mo...

HannahRachel
2013-05-22, 2:09pm
Oooh, that memory bead is just adorable. What a great idea!

And Laura - love that video!

jcs in satx
2013-05-26, 9:12am
I love upcycling! This is going to be the first thing I try when I get a kiln, after I anneal my newbie beads!

jcs in satx
2013-05-26, 9:24am
How funny Holly! I was just looking at the champagne bottle DH and I got on our first anniversary in Napa with a speculative gleam in my eye. It's sitting on top of my kitchen cabinets with other bottles with sentimental value. I love the idea of making memory beads. Thanks for sharing your tutorial!

I wanted to share the memory bead I made from the champagne bottle my niece and her hubby drank from at their wedding:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MJWo0lI4Egg/T2-QG4mY7vI/AAAAAAAAEto/4Qn67KeJIMg/s1600/gift.jpg

I actually framed it for them with a story:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HcNH6RlCZ2Y/T2-NCF2BGLI/AAAAAAAAEtg/exH9a3cnvNY/s1600/gift2.jpg

And I even wrote a photoshop tut (http://hollysfollybeads.blogspot.com/2012/03/memory-bead-wedding-gift.html)for making your text fit your bead.

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has anyone tried the Ty Nant bottles (http://www.tynant.com/main.aspx?pID=40-0)???? I have a red one I've been meaning to get to! You can find them at a Bev Mo...

HannahRachel
2016-09-11, 12:58pm
I've gotten a few Facebook messages asking where this tutorial has gone, so I thought that I'd just bring it back up to the top.

A few things to remember:

The COEs of the glasses are not always compatible, so you'll be best off doing testing or doing single color beads.

Adding silver foil and leaf to the beads makes them really glorious. Hopefully someone will post photos soon.

There are loads of photos and also great tips in this thread:
http://lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194559

Frit Diva
2016-09-12, 2:30pm
Simplest compatibility test at the torch is pulling a stringer that is made by overlapping two different pieces of molten glass and pulling. If the stringer stays straight after cooling, the 2 pieces of glass are compatible. If it curves, they are not the same COE.

SGA
2016-09-12, 4:04pm
One thing that I will share from a wine bottle class...

She did not recommend adding 104 or 96 frit or stringer to recycled bottles. If I recall correctly, even if cracks aren't apparent immediately, you're subject to stress and it has the potential to fracture later. The bottles can wildly vary from high 80s to low 90s. You can try, but I wouldn't feel comfortable beyond non-coe additives.

A couple ladies have used frit however. Maybe they'll chime in and give their experiences.

Frit Diva
2016-09-12, 7:50pm
It makes sense to me that a 90 or 96 frit should work with high 80's or low 90's glass, but I'm sure 104 decorations would be too far off the COE.....

SGA
2016-09-12, 8:41pm
It makes sense to me that a 90 or 96 frit should work with high 80's or low 90's glass, but I'm sure 104 decorations would be too far off the COE.....

It could. Maybe. Has anyone used 96 frit with Bullseye?

Or Bullseye frit with recycled glass?

I know we use 96 and 104 together sparringly.

Frit Diva
2016-09-12, 11:03pm
Or Bullseye frit with recycled glass?


That's what I was thinking ~ 90 COE Frit seems like a pretty good bet.....

bluhealer
2016-10-20, 3:56pm
Thank you for taking the time to put this together and not charging for it!

HannahRachel
2016-10-20, 5:05pm
Thank you for taking the time to put this together and not charging for it!

I actually put it together in 2013, I think. Take a look at the date stamp on the first post. And, you're very welcome. It was really fun.

That said, Bronwen teaches a class on this stuff that goes way beyond my little offerings. You can read about the most recent one here:
http://lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289904

HannahRachel
2016-12-26, 11:20am
I just wanted to add two things here... First of all, here's a photo of a piece with a recycled glass bead at the center that has the silver leaf added to it. Its the cover shot from one of my tutorials, but I think you'll get which bead I mean...

And also, I want to add a link to Robin's thread in the Tips section that goes through all of the 37 colors she's found and gives notes on each one....
http://lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287370

https://img1.etsystatic.com/157/0/5263489/il_570xN.1145499553_etq8.jpg

missbatteries
2017-03-03, 7:23am
Does anyone have an opinion whether this is a true statement? This was a facebook listing for a bead:
Up Cycled HEART of WISHES Focal ~ Bombay Sapphire Gin bottle glass in aquamarine and cobalt amethyst Corralejo Tequila bottle glass mixed with fine .999 silver for gorgeous reactions, fine silver droplets across the surface...
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Created by me, in my studio, in Todos Santos BCS Mexico.
With over 10 years of bead making experience, all of my beads are Properly kiln annealed, and professionally cleaned and shipped.
*You will receive the exact beads in the photo.
*Payment is due within 24 hr of auction end.
Shipping from Baja Sur Mexico. Please allow 3-4 weeks for delivery
Thank you for supporting Handmade.

I asked whether the glass from these two bottles were compatible and this is the response I got:

as long as you don't try to encase them and just lay them side by side.

Is this true? It was a really pretty bead but I can't see how this is a true statement.

Sese
2017-07-28, 8:46am
The beads look really cool! since they are made with the recycled glass!

so sustainable and environment-friendly. =D>

HannahRachel
2017-07-28, 9:45am
Bombay Sapphire Gin bottle glass in aquamarine and cobalt amethyst Corralejo Tequila bottle glass mixed with fine .999 silver for gorgeous reactions, fine silver droplets across the surface...

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If the maker did a compatibility test and found that it was okay, then its the same COE. But given that she says it shouldn't be encased then I will assume that they are different. Putting them side by side might work for a while but I personally wouldn't sell the bead - I would think that it'll crack along the seam line between the glass at some point in the future.

nancyjane
2017-08-17, 7:10am
thanks so much for this - will be breaking, cleaning and torching today - it's a heat index day here in new orleans - perfect for my outdoor studio!