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Cat
2006-06-14, 7:42am
I have tried all my effetre pastel greens (the ones I have) - with no luck - and I'm wondering if there is a pastel green that reacts with ivory (light or dark). I'm looking for an olive-type color and I'm wondering if Reichenbach has one that will react. I'm looking for the lines along the edges - similar to turquoise on ivory reaction. I know copper green will give me that reaction, but it is not quite the color I'm looking for. Has anyone used a Reichenbach that reacts in this way?

I might have to get creative and maybe stack an olive on top of a turquoise somehow to keep a line around the olive.

Another option would be to find a turquoise color that does "not" react with ivory - I tried my light sky blue, but even that reacts.

I'm probably looking for something that just doesn't exist, but thought it was worth a shot to at least ask.

BeadMaven
2006-06-14, 8:21am
I have Lauscha Olive but never tried it with ivory.

Reichenback is a good idea but I am not sure if there is a color there you could use.
Hows that for NOT being helpful! lol

Sorry - I can go melt a bead with the Lauscha and see......

BRB :)

DesertDreamer
2006-06-14, 8:41am
What about Effetre Avocado? It's a bit dark, but it's reasonably reactive.

BeadMaven
2006-06-14, 8:50am
Okay I tried the Lauscha Olive on Vetrofond Dk Ivory, Effetre ivory and Effetre Dk Ivory and not the reaction you are looking for. The Olive just bled into the ivories. On the Effetre Ivories there was a slight white reaction line and not the black you are looking for.

I had no Reichenbach greens to try.

Good luck & HTH :)

Tink
2006-06-14, 9:00am
Some of the Effetre transparent greens (light greens especially) react with ivory. I bet you could thinly encase your olive with one of those: It should be enough to get the ivory reaction, but not enough that it would affect the color of the olive.

kimberly
2006-06-14, 9:04am
Dang it. I am at work so can't help right now, but at home I have a long ivory bead that has rings of each of the Effetre greens, including the Avocado and the Sage. I seem to recall that most of them did not have much of a reaction, but I will check when I get home. You can get a nice sea-green/olive with transparent Aqua on ivory, so that would be a good color to encase with as Tink suggests. Could possibly get two tones of olive!

Three Muses Glass
2006-06-14, 9:13am
I just tried an oddlot vetrofond...I think Jo-Del calls it khaki, sometimes it's called green ocher...anyway, it's the color of olives from a jar. Nice color, Jo-Del has the khaki, but I may have bought the rest of it in the known universe and could spare a few rods if you want to try this...
Make a silvered olive stringer. It makes the olive color I have a wee bit darker, and put on dark ivory there was a nice edge reaction but the olive was still visible. There is still that SIS sort of thing going on, but on olive.
I'm not sure if I'm making sense and should post a pic. I'll try to do that in awhile.

Cat
2006-06-14, 9:33am
Thank you! :) I should be on the torch in a few hours and will try these suggestions. My main issue is that the olive colors I have been working with are bleeding into the ivory and leave a sloppy look. I do have the Vetro olive/khaki - that is along the lines of the color I'm looking for, but that one really bleeds into the ivory. I'm curious to try encasing the olive with some of the colors mentioned to see what I can come up with. And I like Kimberly's idea of putting dots of different colors on an ivory bead. What a great way to have a color reference for future use.

BeadMaven
2006-06-14, 9:40am
I just tried an oddlot vetrofond...I think Jo-Del calls it khaki, sometimes it's called green ocher...anyway, it's the color of olives from a jar. Nice color, Jo-Del has the khaki, but I may have bought the rest of it in the known universe and could spare a few rods if you want to try this...
Make a silvered olive stringer. It makes the olive color I have a wee bit darker, and put on dark ivory there was a nice edge reaction but the olive was still visible. There is still that SIS sort of thing going on, but on olive.
I'm not sure if I'm making sense and should post a pic. I'll try to do that in awhile.

OOh, thats a great idea - would love to see your pics :)

Three Muses Glass
2006-06-14, 10:10am
Here ya go! Quick pic on unannealed beads.
1. silvered olive/green ocher on ivory. Too much silver me thinks.
2. silvered lauscha olive on dark ivory. Potential for major bleedage!
3. plain green ocher on dark ivory. Booooooooring!
4. very lightly silvered green ocher on dark ivory. I like. The silver didn't cover the whole gather, I thought that might have been bad, but I think it was a good mistake. I think I might try just covering half the gather with silver, pull the stringer and then twist (or not) on the bead. Could be interesting.
Yes, I'm avoiding actual work today. Sigh. Must go to PO again.:-({|=
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL205/1158394/7639085/156302394.jpg

rainygrrl
2006-06-14, 11:41am
:confused: Wait--is there supposed to be a photo? I don't see it.
:confused:

Edited to say--Nevermind. Now I do see it. #-o

BeadMaven
2006-06-15, 2:05am
Thanks Rebecca!

I like it too, what a great mistake! lol

Three Muses Glass
2006-06-15, 5:00am
You're welcome! I wonder what Kimberly's bead looks like....oh Kimberly! I'm interested if you wanna show it still!

Pat
2006-06-15, 6:40am
Bec, the first bead does have that black line she was looking for. If that wasn't important like for bead #2 you could clear encase. Then it wouldn't bleed, right. I sortof like #1 how it looks grainy.

kimberly
2006-06-16, 10:56am
You're welcome! I wonder what Kimberly's bead looks like....oh Kimberly! I'm interested if you wanna show it still!

Sorry guys. I haven't revisted this thread for a while. If I can find the bead I will take a photo, OR I will just make another bead. Nothing spectacular - just a long bead with rings of color. I make these for test beads all the time. You can test a lot of different colors on a base color in a hurry, plus have them around later for reference, unless you lose them (like I do ALL the time).