Help with organic beads with morretti, vetrofond, lauscha

[Lizabeads]

Would someone tell me how to make organic beads with morretti, vetrofond, lauscha... I need a crash course evidently.. no matter what colors I throw together it's not working...lol HELP :waving:

[Curly Irish Girl]

Start with ivory (lt or dark) = form your base bead - roll it in silver foil - marver the bejesus out of it - put foil covered bead back in flame - "burn off " in theory all the silver foil - now add transparents & a LITTLe black - I like to use med amber, amethys - teal - cobalt - emerald - just make dots or swirl them in - I also add a little black for a little more "earthiness" - just a couple of little dots scattered = heat and reshape = there you go!! Organic bead! Good luck!

[CorriDawn]

This is from Shawn T, the organic goddess


Organics:
Materials needed:
Dark Ivory
Silver Foil- Yes, leaf could be used
Transparent Aqua, OR, Teal, Emerald green, Grass green
Intense Black Stringer
Marver or BBQ Mashers

1. Make a base bead out of Dark Ivory. Since this bead seems to look better in a tabby shape make sure you have enough base bead of the ivory in order to flatten in the end. An egg shape to start with will end up looking better than a dounut shape.

2. Roll base bead of dark Ivory with the silver foil, and burnish the silver in well. This can be achived by running the silver on your marver to make sure it is stuck well to the bead. Do NOt melt in the silver.

3. Now pick up your color of transparent glass, in the pic I showed I used dark Aqua stringer and the other bead is done with Dark Grass Green stringer. Make swipes with your stringer right on top of the base bead with the silver still on th bead. The amount of color depends on you. But I do suggest that you add more then you think you need.

4. Step four is optional try it with and without. Thread on intense black stringer. To thread on stringer, you hold the bead, (still with the silver on and the transparent glass) behind the flame, your black stringer in the tip of the flame till it is molten, not touch the bead to the stringer and twirl the mandrel, The intense black stringer will go onto the bead in little threads.

5. Melt all in. You may want to use your marver to spread the transparent glass, as it will melt slower then the other colors and so it does not all end up in one place. let the bead cool slightly. Heat only one side of the bead and flatten on your marver. Now let that side cool and heat the other side and smash it flat on your marver. Or if you have BBQ masher just flatten it that way.

Same bead different way:

Step 1 is the same

2. Add silvered ivory stringer to the bead, and the transparent stringer, and intense black stringer threaded on the bead. Melt all in at the same time. Flatten the bead as directed above. This will give you a slightly different look, as the silver will not cover the entire bead, and only where you decide to put the SIS.

Variations: Add goldstone stringer, topaz and intense black.

Just add intense black and heat low in the flame,
the black will give you the "webbing effect"

Try on a black base, adding silver and Dark ivory
along with transparent glass.

Start with a transparent glass, add SIS, (intense black if you choose)
Or transparent glass, roled in silver then add ivory and intense black

[Lizabeads]

I haven't ordered any Ivory because I heard so many bad things.. now I wish I had.. can I substitue with some I think it's silver pink or something like that ...I can't get it to do a damn thing... maybe it would work.. Thanks for all the info..I just ordered 600 worth of glass and didn't get that... looks like I'll be ordering some more... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Curly Irish Girl]

You can get a soft carmel base by using white in place of the ivory. The "texture" of the base bead will be different than the silvered ivory, but it's a way to start getting there with organics until you get your little paws on some ivory. For me, the lt or dk ivory work well. When using the silvered white, I tend to use frit mixes to give the additional surface colors/textures and do the old vortex swirl!

[Lara]

One color, intense black and one tip, heat the snot out of it! This is my organic bead glass. Hair thin stringers, thinner, nope, thinner. I apply to any color, but works best on ivory (lt or dk), opal yellow and I believe I have used with silver pink, even used with plain white.

Who has been telling you bad things about ivory!?!?!?! It is the best glass. I have by far, the most lbs of ivory glass.

A bit further down in this thread someone posted a picture of my bead and asked how I did it. If you are curious, it is:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1283

It involves the intense black, ivory, silver, opal yellow and TONS AND TONS OF HEAT.

[Shawn T]

Elizabeth,
My dear, where are you getting your information from? 8-[
Dr ivory is one of my very favorite colors!
It is the less expensive of the reactive colors. If your looking to make any beads that have an organic look, useing Ivory as the base color will make it much easier for you. Or useing a base of another color and using Silvered ivory on it will help. Also as stated above, intense black, Buy it in stringer, you wont need a lot, but mucho heat, will do the trick.

If you get stuck PM me and I will be glad to get you started with some other colors you do have that will also make reactive Orangic beads. You can use the same Tutorial I have above and change the base color to anything reactive like, Copper Geeen, Opal Yellow Is Beauitful. The tutorial is just a base to get people started in thinking and playing with colors in a "outside of the box" way.

Guess maybe I should look for the pic that went with it now. :badgrin:

[rightbrainbeads]

I haven't ordered any Ivory because I heard so many bad things..

Elizabeth, get ye some Moretti dark and light ivory-- they'll open thousands of creative doors!!! \\:D/

lynne :kiss:

[SuzyQ]

Wow, I love ivory too. When I first started it thrilled me that I just couldn't burn, scald or make it look bad. The more I worked it the better it looked! Go get yourself some, quick!

[midniteburner]

Elizabeth,

Do you have any EDP?

Try melting a big glob of it, crumble up a strip of silver leaf and place it on the glob. Burnish it in well on your marveler. Then burn off in the flame. Now pull yourself a stringer, twisting it here and there. You will have a combination of purple and carmel.

This looks great applied to black, coral, teals, ambers... well, just about anything or combinations.

Hugs from a Lake City gal,

Sara

[Lizabeads]

That is beautiful...lol =D>
One color, intense black and one tip, heat the snot out of it! This is my organic bead glass. Hair thin stringers, thinner, nope, thinner. I apply to any color, but works best on ivory (lt or dk), opal yellow and I believe I have used with silver pink, even used with plain white.

Who has been telling you bad things about ivory!?!?!?! It is the best glass. I have by far, the most lbs of ivory glass.

A bit further down in this thread someone posted a picture of my bead and asked how I did it. If you are curious, it is:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1283

It involves the intense black, ivory, silver, opal yellow and TONS AND TONS OF HEAT.

[Lizabeads]

Well I hate to say because I talked to them tonight and they have since changed their mind, just forgot to tell me !!!lol
Elizabeth,
My dear, where are you getting your information from? 8-[
Dr ivory is one of my very favorite colors!
It is the less expensive of the reactive colors. If your looking to make any beads that have an organic look, useing Ivory as the base color will make it much easier for you. Or useing a base of another color and using Silvered ivory on it will help. Also as stated above, intense black, Buy it in stringer, you wont need a lot, but mucho heat, will do the trick.

If you get stuck PM me and I will be glad to get you started with some other colors you do have that will also make reactive Orangic beads. You can use the same Tutorial I have above and change the base color to anything reactive like, Copper Geeen, Opal Yellow Is Beauitful. The tutorial is just a base to get people started in thinking and playing with colors in a "outside of the box" way.

Guess maybe I should look for the pic that went with it now. :badgrin:

[Lizabeads]

Oh yessss I love EDP !!! I wish I had 22 lbs of that !! lol.. I have also ordered my lt and dk ivory.. Thanks all of you for your help.. I JUST LOVE EVERYONE HERE!! So willing to help !! =D> :waving:
Elizabeth,

Do you have any EDP?

Try melting a big glob of it, crumble up a strip of silver leaf and place it on the glob. Burnish it in well on your marveler. Then burn off in the flame. Now pull yourself a stringer, twisting it here and there. You will have a combination of purple and carmel.

This looks great applied to black, coral, teals, ambers... well, just about anything or combinations.

Hugs from a Lake City gal,

Sara

[DreamMuse]

That's great, Elizabeth! Dark Ivory is one of the best colors, and the more you heat it, the more organic it looks. Also make some SIS - or Silvered Ivory Stringer. (Just like Sara's instructions with the EDP and silver). The stringer will be brittle, but adding some of that to your organics will help a ton with the organic look *S*

[Lizabeads]

I made some silver stringer by the instructions in the book passing the flame... that is an awsome book.. it looked great on the bead I was making...
:waving:

[Shawn T]

I am so glad the person has changed their mind and so have you.
Or I would have you come up and show you personally what wonderful things Dr Ivory, and Light can do. :-D

[Lizabeads]

I am so glad the person has changed their mind and so have you.
Or I would have you come up and show you personally what wonderful things Dr Ivory, and Light can do. :-D

Ok I don't like it and now you have to come show me !! hehehehe :waving: