Twisty Question

[Chroma]

Anybody know why some twisties turn out nice and smooth and then some look like all bumpy like rick-rack?

The top one looks just fine but the two bottom ones are all bumpy. I did them all alike. Why do they turn out different? I want 'em all to be pretty and straight!

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[shawnette]

The glass was cooler when you twisted.

[Emiko]

The punti was off-centered.
It also happens when one color is much stiffer than the other, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

[Lara]

When I use a transparent and an opaque this is what happens to me. The transparents are stiffer than the opaque and cause the bumpy. They work just fine when using on a bead (if you are melting then in). :)

[JanMD]

Emiko and Lara are right, in my opinion. The ribbony effect also happens when I use large amounts of a Zimmerman color (like Z-99) with the Moretti in a twistie. The differences in viscosity cause that bumpyness, regardless of how hot the gather is before you pull+twist. Same as what happens when you use Moretti transparent with an opaque, only more so.

JanMD

[shawnette]

Actually, I use transparents and opaques in all of my twisties and lattucino and have discovered that it is indeed lack of heat that causes bumpiness. If your gather is nice and melty, almost drippy, you won't get the bumps. They occur when your gather is too cool. These were made with opaques and transparents and are smooth:

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[Karen Hardy]

Full moon?

I'd say my vote is with Shawnette. Pictures don't lie!
She IS the stringer queen.

[paintingwithglass]

The glass was cooler when you twisted.

Exactly!!!

[Emiko]

Shawnette, those are encased twisties. As for encased twisties, you twist a mass whose cross section is round, so you don't get bumpiness unless it really goes off centered. Croma's smooth cane looks like an encased cane, too, is it not? Also with encased cane it doesn't matter if one side has transparent and the other side doesn't because it is a thin ribbon and it is encased to be round as opposed to two canes side by side.
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This red and white twistie is bumpy because I wanted it to looke like a twisted strings. This is the bumpiness caused by low temrature. See the difference between mine and Croma's? Croma's are going kind of like zig-zag. It's caused by being off-centered when twisted. One color is straighter and the other is winding around it. (The color to which the punti was closer gets straighter, needless to say.) When one color is stiffer, stiffer color becomes straighter and softer colors winds around it, so similar thing happens. But those are two similar colors, so it is probably not the case of different stiffness.

By the way, those are great-looking encased twisties.

[LavenderCreek]

LOL! Well, all I know is that you all make better twisties than I do :D

[shawnette]

Thanks Emiko! Now if I could just have a portion of your talent in applying them, I'd be set.

You are correct about the zigzag being caused by the punty being off-centered, but I was addressing the OPs question as to why they weren't smooth. The answer to that is still heat. Here are some non-encased twisties made with opaques and transparents, mixed COEs (96 & 104) and they are still relatively smooth.

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[Emiko]

OK. Colder temperature and being off-centered cause it. How's that?

Nice canes, Shawnett! http://planetsmilies.net/happy-smiley-59.gif

[suzanne]

you know, actually you are both right.

Shawnette is right, because it is twisted too cool but Emiko is right... the clear glass has a different viscosity and sort of sinks in the pastel colored glass causing bumps wich can be prevented when heating the gather up more then you would when making a pastel or encased twisty

:D

[fireflykat51]

Um if you don't like your bumpy twisties I'll take them :) Hate to have you be all upset while you were making beads with imperfect twisties:devang:

[Simply Us]

Teresa I'm with you, those are much better than I make!!
Emiko and Shawnette =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> !!!!!!!!
And I'll take any of your off your hands if they aren't good enough for you!
Sandra

[bclogan]

Holy crap, Shawnette! Them's nifty looking twisties....!!!! I'm still trying to figure out how you layered it all up to get it to look like that.

Are you anywhere near Tampa? I may have to come down and take a peek over your shoulder the next time I'm down there packing up the parents' for their move to Indiana....

Barbara

[shawnette]

Holy crap, Shawnette! Them's nifty looking twisties....!!!! I'm still trying to figure out how you layered it all up to get it to look like that.

Are you anywhere near Tampa? I may have to come down and take a peek over your shoulder the next time I'm down there packing up the parents' for their move to Indiana....

Barbara

An hour or so, depending on traffic. I'm in Altamonte, just East of Orlando on I-4.

Whenya comin'?

As far as the colors go, I just slap a bunch of stuff together, heat, twist and pull. Frit, rods, stringer, whatever is in reach and catches my eye. They usually turn out ok.

Oh, and I usually use a mandrel one side.

[bclogan]

An hour or so, depending on traffic. I'm in Altamonte, just East of Orlando on I-4.

Whenya comin'?


Hard telling. The house still hasn't sold - it's only been 2 weeks, but their last house sold in 3 days, so they're getting anxious. The place up here they're moving to won't be available until Nov 1. If the house sells, we'll go down end Oct and pack them up. If the house doesn't sell, they'll stay the winter and we'll move them in the spring.

[Leanne]

one of the things I notice is that you have to melt your gather ROUND before you pull your twistie if it is still in the paddle or square shape before you pull it will come out bumpy if you melt a nice smooth round gather it helps a HUGE amount!!!!

[Emiko]

OK. Colder temperature and being off-centered cause it. How's that?
I forgot to mention difference in glass stiffness/softness here.

Even if you melt the mass round, it gets bumpy if stiffness/softness of glass is different. Bumpiness gets more intense toward the end as stiffer glass stiffens faster.