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acmegirl
2006-10-29, 4:21pm
Sorry if this has been covered....(and if it has can someone direct me as to where I can see what's being done with it?) but I would love to see the possibilities......

debkauz
2006-10-29, 6:16pm
The only thing that I know to do with copper mesh, or foil is to put it on white and then encase it. It turns the most amazing shade of blue. I did use a punch once for some different shapes and put that on a bead. It turned red and I'm not sure exactly why unless it was because I did it on pink.
Not a lot of help am I? LOL

acmegirl
2006-10-29, 7:37pm
thanks Deb,....Can you use any COE? I'll try it.....I'll try anything!!!!
I LOVE copper....

Lee
2006-10-29, 8:22pm
If you encase the copper mesh with dk lavender transparent (Moretti), it turns a deep fuchsia (sp?). If you encase the mesh with pink transparent (Moretti), it turns a deep rust.

acmegirl
2006-10-29, 9:15pm
Can't wait to try this out. Thanks for the color combos.....Does anyone have any pics?

Heather/Ericaceae
2006-11-03, 11:20am
This is one I made using copper mesh... it's pretty subtle. The photo is rather bad but it looks really lovely in person.

monarae
2006-11-03, 12:12pm
I used a Chore Boy scrubbing pad on a white core and a clear core, both encased in clear. Got the most wonderful shade of fucsia Red, very garnety rubino oro.

Mona

Firebug
2006-11-03, 10:49pm
I used a Chore Boy scrubbing pad on a white core and a clear core, both encased in clear. Got the most wonderful shade of fucsia Red, very garnety rubino oro.

Mona

Mona, would you please share how you did this? Did you just pull out threads of the pad and place them on the hot bead? I'm assuming the Chore Boy pad is a kind of tangled bunch of copper threads - is this right? Its been a looooong time since I've seen one, and can't quite remember what they look like!

Thanks so much!

Cheers
Kathy

acmegirl
2006-11-03, 11:35pm
gorgeous!

This is one I made using copper mesh... it's pretty subtle. The photo is rather bad but it looks really lovely in person.

monarae
2006-11-03, 11:39pm
Kathy, the Chore Boy is a lot like those nylon shower puffs for your body, only it is made of crocheted copper wire. I use scissors to cut off a strip and roll my hot bead over it. I heat it up good and encase.

Mona

Firebug
2006-11-04, 9:39am
Thanks Mona! I had a feeling it looked something like that - good to know my memory is better than I thought - LOL! :-)

I'm going to get one and give it a whirl - thanks again!

Cheers
Kathy

hummingbird3172
2007-01-08, 4:47pm
Kathy, the Chore Boy is a lot like those nylon shower puffs for your body, only it is made of crocheted copper wire. I use scissors to cut off a strip and roll my hot bead over it. I heat it up good and encase.

Mona

Mona, you are brilliant! I have wanted to experiment with copper mesh...but didn't know where to buy it...I never would of thought of using a Chore Boy scrubber in a million years! Thank you!

Heather, That bead is really gorgeous! :-)

These are some of my favorite copper mesh beads...made by PEtra...hope she doesn't mind me posting the link :http://www.beadartists.org/Gal1923_LooK_._EARTH_._PENDANTS.asp

collectiblesbyrose
2007-01-08, 6:09pm
Beautiful bead!

PaulaD
2007-01-08, 7:10pm
I found that if I didn't encase it right away it's go pouf!

Paula

ladybug
2007-01-08, 7:49pm
Great ideas guys!!!

hummingbird3172
2007-01-09, 12:54pm
I went out and bought a Chore Boy and then made some beads....so far I am pretty excited with what I made (although the copper looked more blackish as I worked). I don't know if that is normal or not but even if it stays black or turns another color as it cools, I loved the effect! It gives a very "seaweedy" effect that really works for the beads I was making! Thank you again!

Dave
2007-01-09, 1:45pm
I like to cut the mesh into short filling and use it in the backgrounds of some of my florals. I like the way it adds some warmth to the beads, and allows you to see more of the dimensions:

http://69.36.72.237/artglass/images/galleries/beads/CopperFloral.jpg

http://69.36.72.237/artglass/images/galleries/beads/Coppercup.jpg

River Selah
2007-01-09, 4:28pm
Where do I buy copper mesh? I like the chore boy idea, but where can I purchase copper mesh?

Dave
2007-01-09, 4:30pm
I found it at Micheals, although the are sometime out of stock for awhile.

Judi_B
2007-01-09, 4:34pm
I got two different sizes from Howaco.

hummingbird3172
2007-01-09, 4:41pm
You know, I've seen it at Michaels...and didn't think much about it at the time...duh! I guess I wasn't sure if it was real copper....

Dave, your beads are really beautiful!

BTW when you are encasing the copper mesh does it turn red right away? I might have toasted mine a bit too much....

Oh, and the only thing about the Chore Boy is that it is a loose weave mesh...but they are cheap, around $2, and you get lots and lots to work with for the $2. I am just THRILLED to be able to find something so quickly and so easily (thanks again, Mona).

PaulaD
2007-01-09, 4:48pm
You can buy it at Dick Blick.

Paula

hummingbird3172
2007-01-10, 7:37am
Just in case anyone wanted to see how the beads made with the Chore Boy scrubber came out...

54078

54079

It makes a splendid sea fan!

When I put these into the kiln the copper mesh actually looked black, this is fun to experiment with!

acmegirl
2007-02-06, 5:13pm
As long as it's 100% copper, it's okay to use, right?

McDuck
2007-02-07, 10:23pm
who needs copper mesh? pm me your addy i will send you some.
-Mary

jrandrup
2007-03-02, 2:19pm
Copper turns red when you use a reduction flame (more propane/less oxygen). To get the mottled blue, you have to keep it in the flame for a long time to get past the dark sooty looking effect. If you add silver foil or leaf on top of the copper, then you get a beautiful green mottled effect.

I learned this in Kate Fowle-Meleney's "Is This Glass?" class. She also gives lots of color suggestions for different reactions. I recommend her classes for anyone wanting to add some pizzazz to their beads. She's an awesome instructor.

glass_affair
2007-03-03, 3:57pm
Copper turns red when you use a reduction flame (more propane/less oxygen). To get the mottled blue, you have to keep it in the flame for a long time to get past the dark sooty looking effect. If you add silver foil or leaf on top of the copper, then you get a beautiful green mottled effect.

I learned this in Kate Fowle-Meleney's "Is This Glass?" class. She also gives lots of color suggestions for different reactions. I recommend her classes for anyone wanting to add some pizzazz to their beads. She's an awesome instructor.

Joy, do you use a reduction flame to get the mottled blue effect too?

thanks, Sue

jrandrup
2007-03-05, 9:17am
I just used a neutral flame to get the mottled blue effect with copper. You get reds when you have a reduction flame. In fact, if you put a reduction flame on Petroleum green, you get great patches of red/rust also.

When working with copper leaf, be sure not to overlap the leaf! This causes a sooty grayish cast which is extremely difficult to burn off. To get the blues, you have to leave the bead in the flame an extremely long time. Work through the black/gray stuff. It will eventually turn blue.

To get this effect a little easier, I use aventurine powder. Just make a white bead, roll in the aventurine powder, then melt in the flame. Beautiful blues! Add other colors to play with this reaction.

Gail Kops
2007-03-17, 2:11am
I played with the copper mesh last week. The copper turned a really beautiful rusty red color.

I tried to melt down the edges a bit first and then placed the clear over just the mesh and then pressed.

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LadyHaak
2007-03-17, 8:55am
Gail, those are beautiful!!

Gail Kops
2007-03-17, 9:02am
Thank you! I just came in from torching and made 6 of the 3/4" buttons for an order and must make 5 of the 1/2" tomorrow. They are fun to make but do take a bit of time.

evenia
2007-03-19, 11:13am
I can't keep my beads from cracking when I use copper foil. Any ideas?

debkauz
2007-03-19, 6:52pm
Just did a bead with copper mesh and foil. The foil turned a gorgeous blue and the mesh turned a gorgeous red. Damn...I'll try to get a picture of it but just not tonight.