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Just Nancy
2005-09-18, 10:42am
So what the heck am I supposed to do with it other than turn it some barely ivory color?
Copper green I've done with coral and ivory. No other bright ideas there either. Any suggestions?
I really need to make some new colors this week and I have not a clue what to do. I don't have any olive green. Well, I have this weird color, it might be a green. Darker than copper green, grayer, maybe muddier. I don't think it is gray. I'd say olive or khaki. Not Lauscha khaki because it is the full meter and my Lauscha comes cut.
If you have any suggestions I'd be really appreciative. [-o<
Nancy
DawnChrisanti
2005-09-18, 10:51am
Why is this in the bathroom, seems like it would be a good one to keep for reference.
Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 11:02am
Opal yellow needs to get hot! I spot heat it, but the last batch I got I can't get to turn any kind of pinkish for love nor money. That sucks, cause it costs the same.
Copper green is my favorite color and I love it etched! It reacts with all the glass I've put it with and leaves a groovy little line of seperation. I love to make twisties with it.
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Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 11:04am
I moved this thread so it can stick around and be useful to us all!
Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 11:08am
Can you tell I love it with Rubino and lavender? hee..hee...
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a25/rhapsodyfirebeads1/razzLE.jpg
Just Nancy
2005-09-18, 11:26am
Why is this in the bathroom, seems like it would be a good one to keep for reference.
I posted it in the bathroom because I usually get more replies there and I didn't care if it went away.
Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 11:27am
That's kinda sad. LOL!!!!!
Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 11:29am
Come on guys! We need color tips!!!! Pretty please with sugar on top!!
~me~
Shawn T
2005-09-18, 11:45am
Ohhhh Nancy,
Opal Yellow is one of my very favorite colors.
If you look in the Gallery Lara was talking about it a few weeks ago and makes the most beautiful beads with it. I just did some winestopper tops yesterday. I will try and get some pic, but I am in show mode so not much time for pic right now. :oops:
OY, likes to be heated and cooled, to bring out the colors. It will turn pink, sometimes even lavender. Different batches of it are better than some others. Try it with a little bit of silver and some Dark Ivory maybe some intense black if you like. Make sure between steps you heat and cool the bead, shaping it outside the flame. Then bring it back into the top of your flame, blushing the bead quickly in the bushy part of your flame when your done with the bead. It will help to bring out the colors of Opal Yellow.
Shawn T
2005-09-18, 11:47am
Copper Green- Opal Yellow, and Rubino Together makes a stunning bead!
Ok so your talking to someone who does mostly organic beads.
So all my color combo tips are going to sound just like above as that is how I play with my colors.
Kybeadmaker
2005-09-18, 12:07pm
I love opal yellow! I have found that the rods with a pinkish interior seem to have more color when you heat and cool. I also have one batch that does NOTHING no matter how much I try to coax it. I heat it up, shape it and then just play with it in the fire. I usually work more toward the top of the flame. Sometimes the color seems to turn more when I get distracted and keep it out of the flame longer than I intended...or maybe the bead faires just don't want me to see them work their magic :)
suzanne
2005-09-18, 12:15pm
Now miss Alaska... those beads are sick!! They should never see daylight or northern light for all I care ever again. Just send em on over so I can really hide them away, specially the tube bead... UGLYASS Nasty damn good bead... * I have bead envy, does it show?*
As far as opal yellow goes... I have had perfect results treating this particular glass the same way I treat Rubino Oro. Very gently melt down ( dark orange glow... white is NO good), and if I could keep my fingers crossed I would , so maybe you want to try your toes instead. Let the bead cool outside the flame for quite a bit ( and keep those toes crossed). Then just bring the bead back in the flame, barlely touching the flame, waaaaaay at the end at the point where you start to think "am I in the flame???"
You will see a lovely dark glow again, and that is when the colorstriking apears.
Good luck!
Suzanne
suzanne
2005-09-18, 12:16pm
( ps try rubino over opal yellow.... Just Peachy!)
Ohhhh Nancy,
Opal Yellow is one of my very favorite colors.
If you look in the Gallery Lara was talking about it a few weeks ago and makes the most beautiful beads with it.
Gee, thanks Shawn. :D
I love OY. It is one of my favorite colors. I, however, am not sure what I do to get good pink out of it. I heat my beads fairly hot and the lentils the photos here the beads have been pressed in a brass mold, then heated again. I think the reheating is the key. The two barrel beads have OY in the them and the smaller one was heated and shaped longer and has more pink.
All the pink in the ivory letnil is OY and also has intense black.
Look at the thread that Shawn was talking about, it is in the gallery, started by me: A study in Opal Yellow. I was asking the same questions as you and there are a lot of good theories in there.
Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 12:29pm
Thank you Suzanne for the wonderful compliment!! :waving:
Here is opal yellow with Silver foil and Rubino.
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Lizabeads
2005-09-18, 12:31pm
Opal yellow needs to get hot! I spot heat it, but the last batch I got I can't get to turn any kind of pinkish for love nor money. That sucks, cause it costs the same.
Copper green is my favorite color and I love it etched! It reacts with all the glass I've put it with and leaves a groovy little line of seperation. I love to make twisties with it.
532
That is beautiful... On my screen though I would have guessed the lavender was turquoise... that is just awsome looking..
suzanne
2005-09-18, 12:34pm
Thank you Suzanne for the wonderful compliment!! :waving:
Here is opal yellow with Silver foil and Rubino.
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Oh come on.. that is just too much! Those look as if they are still steaming hot, lovely!
Lynn Larson
2005-09-18, 12:49pm
If you have the opal yellow that doesn't do much color changing, it is awesome with frit! It's wonderful if you want an ivoryish frit bead, and don't want the black halos.
Rhapsody - all your beads are great. I really really love that first focal bead, great use of CG and RO. YUMMERS. The lentils do look like they are still hot, something I have wanted to be able to do and had no clue how. Just beautiful.
Nancy
You also mentioned Copper Green (CG). You are a women after my own heart, CG and OY are 2 of my favorites. Some suggestions with CG. With ivory it is great, as you mentioned, but try with light ivory and lapis blue, a great color combo.
I like to use CG with intense black (IB). Both of the focals below have CG and IB. The flat tab one is just CG and IB, the barrel one is a twisty of CG and IB over a bed of silvered ivory. I got a lot of yellow in this bead. Very neat. The set is just purple (EDP) and CG.
Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 1:03pm
Hole Cow Lara! That last set!!!!!!!!!! Killer!!!!!
~Suzy~
Thanks Suzy :) It was a favorite of mine.
beachbeads
2005-09-18, 1:21pm
Try it over ivory as a base for "river rock beads" . Encase an ivory bead with opal yellow, (you can make a base bead of opal yellow, but it is so expensive so I use it this way,) then roll in silver foil, burnish in. Randomly apply lines and dots of a transparent color, melt in and shape bead as desired. The contact of silver and opal yellow creates a nicely colored texture. I'm on a new studio computer and will go to my other computer to see if I can find some photo's. It is also killer with R 108, know as jitterbug raku frit.
Shawn T
2005-09-18, 1:25pm
:wave: Lara,
I Know, I know....I keep talking about Opal Yellow But I never do seem to show any pic of my beads. #-o
So I went and took pic, just so I could post them. :lol: Now there are 2 different winestopper tops, but the sides of them so different colors, so I have three pics to show. The tops are about 1 inch round. Also a bead to show but the colors are not as cool as the tops. Now I did get some great lavender on the edges of the tops. Also some great pinks in the center to come out. Combo is the same as I posted in my first post on here.
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JacintheD
2005-09-18, 1:58pm
When I use OY, I find that the beads usualy stay the pale yellow colour. HOWEVER, maddeningly, the discarded rod gets these utterly fabulous streaks of peach and rich pink. I think it's the rapid cooling as when I have discarded a disaster bead pre-kiln,I have seen the gorgeous colours.
Shawn, awesome colors you got there. Very pink!!!!!! COOL.
Lizabeads
2005-09-18, 8:31pm
Suzy.. tell me how you do those twisties... do you put RO over white or just straight on and also what colors and how on your CG? I love those colors you use...
Rhapsody Fire Beads
2005-09-18, 8:48pm
I did on the focal, but I don't usually.
me
Y'all are killin' me with this gorgeous stuff!!!
For a while now I've been working mostly with frits, but I really should be playing with more Effetre combinations. Here's a simple one: twisty made with white and one of the corals. A nice peach. :)
Try opal yellow with edp. I roll it in edp powder. It turns it golden yellow and organicy looking.
Copper green and Petroleum green react well together for a tie dyed look.
Suzy -
where do you get edp powder ? or do you just make it up yourself ?
Thanks,
Debbie A.
Make it myself. I bought a coffee grinder to make frit and all I seem to make is powder. It was a happy mistake. EDP, and copper green do really cool things as a powder. Sort of a reaction without color.
Thanks much Suzy ! Sounds pretty cool ! Will have to try it out once I find a used/old grinder !
Debbie A.
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