Cane/Twistie Recipes [Archive]

Lara

2007-07-26, 8:09pm

Great I idea, I LOVE twisties. I love making twisties, I loive using twisties, they are so much fun.

I think this thread needs to be a sticky (first one I have wanted to be a sticky). Even before it gets going. :-)

1 - Just a simple white and medium lapis blue twisty on red. I like using twisties to make dots as well as wrap around the bead, you can make a fun bi-colored dots. I espcially like using them to make plunged bubble dots.

2 - A simple x-mas set with white, transparent sage green, transparent red and Goldstone on white.
3 - My all time favorite bead, can't duplicate (of course) and you have all seen it before - Opal Yellow and Intense black on silvered ivory.

4 - Love these beads, look so much better in person. Clear, Nile Green, Sky Blue (or torquoise, can't remember). All on clear, cased in clear.

5 - These are so fun to make. EDP and Copper Green on Opal Yellow.

Moth

2007-07-26, 8:37pm

I've got lots to add tomorrow but this is a quicky.

My new favorite thing to make- enameled silvered ivory

I just take effetre pale ivory, get a grape-sized gather. Roll in silver foil, burnish, burn off. Reheat this silvered gather and roll once in moss green enamel. Melt that layer smooth then roll in the moss green enamel a second time. Melt that smooth and then pull down your stringer.

Depending on how heavy-handed you are with the enamel, and how long you cook it once it's applied, you get different levels of color tint in your silvered ivory. I went too gung ho with my last batch and lost the lacy effect. Less is more.

Here it is encased and left on the surface.

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~~Mary

Whimsey

2007-07-27, 11:03am

These are fantastic. Thank you everyone. I hope there are lots more coming, I want to have some fun when I am able to torch again!

Wilma

glassactcc

2007-07-27, 11:12am

Well, I wouldn't say I love making them, but I HAVE to. That's all I use in most of my beads. Here's two examples.

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Jenfire

2007-07-27, 11:40am

My absolute favorite twisty combination for vines is this: 219 copper green, 224 lt. sky blue, and 216 grass green.
I usually do the method of creating a cone of copper green on the end of an old mandrel and then stripe on the other colors and pull straight.
Jen

Jenfire

2007-07-27, 11:43am

Then there is always the method of taking a large clear blob, cutting channels into it and putting colors in the channels then cover with more clear. I usually pull some straight and some twisted.
Jen

J. Savina

2007-07-27, 5:10pm

I love this thread!!! I love making and using twisties too.
Here's one of my favorites that I've been meaning to try again, but never get a round to.
The twisty is made with a 6mm rod of moretti white, a thick stringer of moretti special red, not sure which number but it's one of the deeper reds, then a stringer of EDP, and just the skinniest stringer of moretti black. Apply over white. I called this Flaming Pastille.

Moth, I'm going to have to try that silvered ivory enamel thing you did. That floral is sooooo pretty!!!
J

lripster

2007-07-27, 7:09pm

Awesome thread, guys!!

Mary, have you tried this with different enamel colors? I can't wait to try this one!

glassactcc

2007-07-27, 7:27pm

Oh my GOD. I forgot to put my recipe with my pictures. It must be Friday. I make my grape can with a simple white cane covered in black. When pulled out, black of course turns deep purple which I think is perfect for grapes or flowers.

For the tree cane, I use an optic mold but you don't have to. Just melt a huge blob of white and make a barrel out of it. Make five even grooves and fill with dense black. After you melt that in a bit, coat it with....you can choose anything you want but I use trans orange, red, brown, even Rubino sometimes. Keeping the original shape of a barrel, melt all in and pull. You can also stripe it with raku cane for extra added detail and color.

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Thanks Lara for watching out for me. It seem these days I need it.

Lara

2007-07-27, 7:43pm

cynthia, I love your beads. You might think about editing your first message with your second so that they recipes are with the pictures. Lovely lovely lovely.

Moth

2007-07-27, 7:47pm

Awesome thread, guys!!

Mary, have you tried this with different enamel colors? I can't wait to try this one!

Yes, I have made it where I rolled one side of the silvered ivory in apple green and the other side in some dark yellow I can't remember the name of. It was pretty but I don't have any pictures, sorry.

I do have a better picture of the green version though.
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TheBriarePatch

2007-07-27, 8:51pm

They are all beautiful. I am highly twisty impaired. Too thin, lopsided, lame....

Mopnglo

2007-07-27, 11:02pm

This is a great thread. I can make twisties, but I never knew exactly what to do with them! Okay, where can you rate a thread? I know I've seen it before, but it's not showing up in this one.

J. Savina I love those beads.

Moth

2007-07-28, 5:43am

Hi Terri. You can't rate threads anymore. Apparently some people were abusing the feature. I don't know how they were abusing it, but they were and now it's gone. ~~Mary

Mopnglo

2007-07-28, 10:56am

Hi Terri. You can't rate threads anymore. Apparently some people were abusing the feature. I don't know how they were abusing it, but they were and now it's gone. ~~Mary

Ah well, that's a shame. It sure made it easier to find good tips and tutorials, by searching top rated threads. Thanks for the info though.

Rachel

2007-07-28, 12:52pm

I love making twisties but I don't use them a lot. I can't ever find something great to do with them. But, for my vine canes I use ASK aloe vera and CIM Hades for black encased in clear. BTW: CIM Hades is my new favorite black because it isn't a dark blue or a dark purple. It is black and I use it when I don't want the spreading I would get with intense black. It is cheaper than intense black as well. If you haven't tried the Hades black, I would highly recommend it. Now, they just need to start making stringers.

For my vines I also like to use pea green with black and encased in clear.

Twisties: My all time favorite would have to be raku/Van Gogh with intense black. I just found a twistie that I really like. It won't look like much of anything until you use it. I made a twistie from the new R4 color called Michelangelo. I made one twistie with this color and clear stripes and and another one with Michelangelo and a black stripe. Make that in to twisties. I use it on a bead I plan to reduce. Michelangelo likes to be reduced and encased. With the clear in it in the twistie, it makes a nice effect I think. I need to take some pictures for you guys.

I have been working on a tutorial for using Catt's column press to make striped cane and twisties. I haven't finished it and the pictures are pretty sucky. But, if you heat up a rod and put it in this press it will come out like this:
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then it is spaced well for stripes. I often put in stripes of one color and then another color on top of it and sometimes add another stripe to the color I started with and keep adding it up like you would murrini. Melt it all in and make a twistie that is super colorful or pull it out and you've got a nice long striped cane or you can cut it in to little pieces to make star-ish (not a word I know) or flowerish type murrini. I am no expert with murrini but I am trying to learn. I never used this press for making shapes in beads but I stumbled across it for making vines and I use it all the time for that. So, if you happen to have this press and don't use it very much, give it a try for this.

My pictures aren't great but here's some pictures of beads with my vine cane in them. Not much to brag about really. Some of the pictures are bad but I've gotten better since then. I just can't find the good pictures.
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This bead had some issues and ended up a bit wonky. I hated to trash it since it had all of the CZ's in it so I put that ugly lip on it. My DH calls it the jug bead. My DH has also moved all of my good photos of my beads to a CD that I can not locate at the moment.
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Of course Mary, I love your ideas and I am going to try the enamel thing today. I was using white enamel on petrol green and pulling it out into flat stringers and then making little leaves with that for stuff but I am not thrilled with the look.

Thanks for all the tips. I hope to get a lot of torching done this weekend so I have lots of new stuff to try.

ziggys

2007-07-28, 11:10pm

Thanks from me too! I just started using enamels, making twisties, and canes so this is very helpful for me.
I've been using Kimberely Afflacks method for twisties. She did a tutorial and I love doing them now.
Sometimes I don't like what I have until I find the right base color. I made one twist, tried it on 5 different base bead colors and nothing good.
Then I put it on black and that's all it took! So you just never know.
I'll post a couple combinations I like after I get some sleep!
Angela

Teri.p

2007-07-29, 3:49pm

Mary - that's genius! I can't wait to try enamel on silvered ivory stringer now.

ziggys

2007-08-07, 2:08pm

I know this sounds too easy but I just love using a base of Lt. Turquoise, with a big stripe of Copper Green and another big stripe of Dk., or Light Ivory.
I like to use for big dots on a base of black or on Tangerine Sparkle.

I use Kimberly Afflack's seahorse twiste tutorial so it makes super fine lines of color.

Another combo I really like is a base of OY, Big stripe of copper green, big stripe of EDP, small stripe of transparent Rootbeer to Dark Amber, another of transparent Emerald Green or Teal, and maybe another stripe of Coral.
Again using Kim's twist tutorial.
Looks great on EDP or Dark Violet or New Violet. If you press it so it chills the colors pop.

I'm off to try Mary's technique. Thanks Mary!

Angela

ziggys

2007-08-07, 2:20pm

If only I could make them...I usually buy mine from Lynnie! LOL

I am Twisty Impaired.

Try Kim Afflacks Seahorse Twistie Tutorial. I swear it is so easy. You can make them thick or thin depending on the look you want.

HTH,
Angela

ziggys

2007-08-08, 3:02pm

Oh my GOD. I forgot to put my recipe with my pictures. It must be Friday. I make my grape can with a simple white cane covered in black. When pulled out, black of course turns deep purple which I think is perfect for grapes or flowers.

For the tree cane, I use an optic mold but you don't have to. Just melt a huge blob of white and make a barrel out of it. Make five even grooves and fill with dense black. After you melt that in a bit, coat it with....you can choose anything you want but I use trans orange, red, brown, even Rubino sometimes. Keeping the original shape of a barrel, melt all in and pull. You can also stripe it with raku cane for extra added detail and color.
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Cynthia, I just love your vines, background, foreground, trees, flowers, grapes, star, moon, sky, (whew), BEAD! The more you look the more you see!
Angela

glassactcc

2007-08-08, 7:10pm

:grin: Thank you Angela.

beadstillmyheart

2007-08-15, 5:55am

Where would one find Kimberly's twistie tutorial?

FourTailsLampwork

2007-08-15, 6:39am

Right here, sweetie!

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3450

afina

2007-08-26, 10:01am

Hi!
I love twisties and use them a lot. Here is one of my favourites:

Use lollypop-method:

clear
striking orange/light red transparent
opaque light orange
lolly in clear
dark ivory
medium topas

Twist tightly.

Here are some beads I made with these twisties.

http://www.glasperlenwerk.at/gallery/galerie/Ketten/Kette_Aida.jpg

Regards, Verena

playswithfire104

2007-08-26, 1:51pm

Beautiful beads everyone! Thanks so much for sharing your info. I have a question - its not exactly off topic but since we're talking twisties here I figured it would be a good place to ask. I LOVE making twisties and wigwags. But I find that many many times, unless they are VERY thin, they tend to be very shocky. I mean I can loose almost an inch due to the popping and shocking. I've never heard of anyone else having this problem. I do preheat them before using them. Am I doing something wrong?

beadysam

2007-08-26, 2:12pm

The only time I get shocking, is if I've managed to twist a bubble in the cane too...

playswithfire104

2007-08-26, 2:15pm

I don't think that is my problem. I get it quite regualarly.

Lara

2007-08-26, 7:39pm

Afina, lovely twisties. They look like fire!

afina

2007-08-27, 12:05pm

Hi!
Mine are shocky, too! Got used to it. I think it is because i tend to heat and reheat them while twisting, so that different parts of it had different amounts of heat. And I fairly often twist bubbles, too :-( . But I warm them slowly in the far part of the flame, like shocky glass (anis e.g.) and this works O.K. for me.
Verena

FiG

2007-09-11, 9:13am

Twistys
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Rings
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Shorty
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chrissij

2007-09-11, 9:37am

Twistys
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Rings
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Shorty
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Show off...

angelique_redhead

2007-09-11, 6:29pm

WHOA! It's not enough you do magnificant bugs and stuff you do twisties, rings, and shorties. OH MY! :love: Angelique

Twistys
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Rings
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Shorty
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Lara

2007-09-11, 6:47pm

Michael - Lovely

Whimsey

2007-09-15, 11:00am

I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread, and hope that there will be more recipes to come so that we can get a wide variety...pretty please. Thanks for all the ones that have been posted so far.

Bubbyanne

2007-09-15, 3:03pm

Have you tried annealing them? I've never done this myself but have heard it suggested before when others had this problem. I just made some twisties yesaterday and had some shockiness, totally messed up my bead! :lol:
It wasn't a huge problem but definately annoying.
I don't think that is my problem. I get it quite regualarly.

Gwood

2007-09-21, 4:16pm

Cynthia I want to be you when I grow up. I think that your work is amazing. I look at it and all I can say is WOW WOW and how in the world did she do that. How long have you been doing this and how much was from classes vs self taught.

You are truely an artist,
Gloria

krisdaka

2007-09-22, 7:14am

Wow Michael,
Those rings are too cool, I love them!

jesgen

2007-09-22, 4:23pm

These are great! :) More Twistie Recipes and photos please! Pretty Please!!!

Jayne

2007-09-23, 9:44pm

Wow, what a great thread! I need to start making some twisties; I've got a lot of practicing to do!

Whimsey

2007-09-29, 9:57am

Please can we have more? I love this thread and have gotten some wonderful ideas, but please post more pretty please

Pat

2007-10-02, 8:13pm

Wilma, you need to sit down and try some of them. Or just take colors you like.

ellyloo

2007-10-05, 4:17pm

a twistie of opal yellow, rubino and intense black.

Actually, there were more but only those ones did the trick, and i'm able to replicate the look with that recipe.

cherie

2007-10-24, 3:03pm

If only I could do twisties...I can do stringer, but am twistie challenged!!

Curly Irish Girl

2007-10-24, 3:59pm

I'd be willing to bet you are not twistie challenged, but rather trying to make the twistie withe glass that is too hot.....try working cooler (further out) in the flame - and when you bring the glass out - count to 4 before you start to twist.....

If only I could do twisties...I can do stringer, but am twistie challenged!!

ziggys

2007-10-26, 8:22pm

If only I could do twisties...I can do stringer, but am twistie challenged!!

I too think you can do twisties. Which ways have you tried? I know a bazillion ways to do them and one of them is bound to work for you.

The very first kind I ever tried to make worked so it must be fool proof. ;-)

Take 2 glass rods and tape them together about 5 inches down from the end you wanted to melt.

Heat the first 1st inch or so, paying attention to heating the "seam" between the two rods. Watch while the glass rods droop and flop out of control. Not to worry! Use less heat, and mash them together and horizontal again using a marver.

Heat until they are melted together. They won't turn into a gather if you keep using the marver and don't overheat them!

Once they are hot enough to pull, (fused together, molten really), use a pair of small pliers, grab the tips of both ends with one hand, twist and pull the rods with the other hand out of the flame.

If your on a HH you have to keep reheating the rods.

Ok, so I don't even know if you already tried this and hated doing it that way. But I'm not deleting all this now!!! :lol:

Please PM me if this isn't clear or you want more info or another way to do it.

Roseanne

2007-10-27, 9:18am

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Are you just going to tease us? Or are you going to share??:poke:

Gorgeous twisties!!

adee

2007-10-27, 10:18am

Are you just going to tease us? Or are you going to share??:poke:

Gorgeous twisties!!

Roseanne, you beat me to it..eheh..I was going to ask the same question! Great minds,uh?;-)

Roseanne

2007-10-27, 4:08pm

Roseanne, you beat me to it..eheh..I was going to ask the same question! Great minds,uh?;-)

You know it girl\\:D/

cherie

2007-10-29, 7:33am

Im glad you didnt delete this :happy:, I will try this later today. I will also try to work cooler as Curly Girl suggested. The ways that I have tried are from Cornia's book. I can get a sort of twistie, but it doesnt come out even, it has bumpy edges and they are really, really short. Thanks for the tip :)

I too think you can do twisties. Which ways have you tried? I know a bazillion ways to do them and one of them is bound to work for you.

The very first kind I ever tried to make worked so it must be fool proof. ;-)

Take 2 glass rods and tape them together about 5 inches down from the end you wanted to melt.

Heat the first 1st inch or so, paying attention to heating the "seam" between the two rods. Watch while the glass rods droop and flop out of control. Not to worry! Use less heat, and mash them together and horizontal again using a marver.

Heat until they are melted together. They won't turn into a gather if you keep using the marver and don't overheat them!

Once they are hot enough to pull, (fused together, molten really), use a pair of small pliers, grab the tips of both ends with one hand, twist and pull the rods with the other hand out of the flame.

If your on a HH you have to keep reheating the rods.

Ok, so I don't even know if you already tried this and hated doing it that way. But I'm not deleting all this now!!! :lol:

Please PM me if this isn't clear or you want more info or another way to do it.

crystalflipz

2007-10-30, 2:41pm

ziggys

2007-10-31, 3:37pm

One of my favorites using the "lollipop" method is Rubino in the center with EDP on one side and coral - I use dusty rose - on the other. You have to work in a fairly cool oxygen rich flame to keep the rubino red, but on OY it is gorgeous!

I just love your kitty pic!
When you say you add edp etc. to the lollipop, do you heat a gather, mash it, and then run the stripe across the center of the pop, flip over and add the other color?

Never mind...it's coming back to me now... That's a nice easy way too!

ziggys

2007-10-31, 4:03pm

Im glad you didnt delete this :happy:, I will try this later today. I will also try to work cooler as Curly Girl suggested. The ways that I have tried are from Cornia's book. I can get a sort of twistie, but it doesnt come out even, it has bumpy edges and they are really, really short. Thanks for the tip :)

Cheri,
What torch are you on? I found that I had to do everything a little different than the books said when using a HH than when using a surface mix torch.
I had to keep putting the glass back in the flame using a HH, and the twist would be uneven.

Sometimes it takes awhile to learn to twist and pull fast enough to get a longer twist. If you twist less you get a longer pull.

Maybe concentrate on pulling more and just getting a few good twists in there the first few tries.

Mashing a gather of glass on the end of a rod, (ie,the lollipop method, chystalflip's post above) and then adding a stripe of color on either side is a good way to try.

Next heat the tip of the gather and grab all three colors with your pliers when you pull.
Also wait a few seconds before starting to pull for the skin to form on the glass.
Argh, a web-cam would be nice right about now!

My favorite way to do twists now is the from Kimberly Affleck's tutorial on here. Let me find the tutorial.....
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3450&highlight=seahorse+twisties

These are really fun to do and look so cool on beads. It seemed kind of advanced for me to try, but once I made one I couldn't stop.

Still it might be better to start with 2 colors and get that down.
I also like the toothbrush method...Do you know that one?

krisdaka

2007-10-31, 4:19pm

I've not heard/seen of the toothbrush method. Do tell!

ziggys

2007-10-31, 6:40pm

I've not heard/seen of the toothbrush method. Do tell!

It probably sounds more interesting than it is?!?

Hold one rod in each hand. Heat the bottom of the last inch of one rod and the "top" of the last inch of the other. When they are hot enough, stick the two heated ends together laying one on top of the other.

Since I don't know how to draw pics., on here, visualize one end of a rod as toothpaste laid on top of the other rod... the toothbrush.
(I think the name of this method comes from Cindy Jenkins.)

Keep heating the two rods where they join. I have a marver sitting on my work space so I can push the rods straight again when they start to droop.
You want to keep everything horizontal.

Bend one rod up so it attachs to the end of the "toothpaste" rod.
Bend the toothpaste rod down so it attaches to the end of the toothbrush rod.
Aim the flame at the middle. The glass will slowly melt into a gather forming a football shape.
Heat until you don't see any change in color on either rod end, especially where the "seam" is.
Try not to turn, push, or pull, either rod so the colors stay seperated and even.

Keep heating until the football shape is so molten you think it will fall onto the table. :biggrin:
Take out of the flame, give a little pull to make sure it's ready, wait for a skin to form and pull and twist.
Twist away from yourself with the right hand and towards yourself with the left hand.
That way when you apply the twistie if you want to make it a little tighter you can easily twist it a bit more (if your right handed) while its being applied to the bead......I think I have that part right. I never really thought this out, I just do it. But I remember Corrina writing about it.

I think there is a trick to knowing exactly when to pull but I can't remember it. Anyone? I just guess.

I think I need to learn how to draw pictures and get them onto LE! ](*,)
Please let me know if this does or does not make sense.
Thanks!

FiG

2007-11-05, 12:59pm

I sorry I posted pix and have not returned with a tut. I use the lollypop recipe with a nortel minor/redmax.
1. melt a white lump and squish with flat mashers.
2. flatten round edges of lollypop so you are left with a square pop.
3. case tansparent aquamarine on one side of the pop.
4. case opaque yellow ocher and orange on other side of pop.
5. put extra dence stringer of black on thin seam right and left
deliniating the orange and blue.
6. case in clear. you now have a thick lollypop put extra clear on the ends
with no black stringer. These are the ends you are attaching your (punty) handles.
I use a uncoated thick mandrel.
7. now case the flat sides of the lollypop with enough clear to create a cylinder.
case carefully so as to trap as few bubbles as possible.
8 attach punty on opposite side of lump then heat and pull.

Bubbasjewels

2007-11-11, 6:43am

This thread ROCKS!! Thank-you so much for the contributions........so inspiring :-)

danelady

2007-11-15, 11:43am

Hey guys, I haven't had TIME to make a tut of my method for you all, but I plan to at some point... let me share this info tho:

SHOCKY twisties are usually full of AIR! Yup... if when you are applying glass to glasss, you trap air, and don't manage to remove the trapped air when heating the mass of glass before pulling, the air causes your twisty to POP/shatter.

One of the most difficult (for me) aspects of turning out a large volume of twisties, is finding a way to melt large amounts of glass, remove ALL the air, AND produce a long pull with a tight twist, simultaneously.

Using a mandrel spinner helps with the latter, but removing the air is time consuming, involving moving your mass of glass thru the flame in the same direction, repeatedly and squeezing the air out that way.

PPP!
Hugs
LynnieHi!
Mine are shocky, too! Got used to it. I think it is because i tend to heat and reheat them while twisting, so that different parts of it had different amounts of heat. And I fairly often twist bubbles, too :-( . But I warm them slowly in the far part of the flame, like shocky glass (anis e.g.) and this works O.K. for me.
Verena

JenP

2007-11-24, 10:59am

Michael, how do you make the twistie rings? Large hole mandrels? They're so perfect and so cool!

Jen

danelady

2007-11-24, 11:55am

I do mine on a large hole mandrel:
http://www.artemislampwork.com/etsy/danglinghearts.jpg
Michael, how do you make the twistie rings? Large hole mandrels? They're so perfect and so cool!

Jen

ellejule

2007-11-24, 12:18pm

This is great for people like me that have no idea where to start with twisties:)

FiG

2007-11-25, 1:22pm

I know it is very unprofessional of me but I rarely will clean a mandrel hole. For this I have taken many an earbanging. Rather than incurring the wrath of any more Bead Nazis I just make most of my beads off mandrel.
To make a ring I take a 2" section of twisty. Holding an end of that section with tweezers I run the entire length of twisty up and down in my flame untill it is warm and will not shock itself into pieces. At this point I will attach a piece of store bought stringer to the center of the twisty. When I let go of the twisty with my tweezers I am left with a T of glass. I continue to run the cap of my T up and down in the flame rotating it so I can get both sides yet carefull not to heat the punty or the connection point of the T. When the twisty is soft I bend it into a ring shape, there is no need to rush at this point the slower you bend the glass the more controll you have. I then fuse the two ends together. Now is the difficult part. Using a large graphite reamer I put it inside the hole to make the ring round. The issue here is you are drawing the glass thinner. To thicken use heat and allow the thin part to congeal. I will rub the reamer on the outside of the ring this not only helps shape but it also helps congeal a thin section. I am carefull never to press the reamer on one little section of the ring as this will dent the ring, insted I rub the ring so as to effect more surface area. I will use flat mashers to make sure the ring is flat. Just like makeing a marble to get a true round I transfer at least once so I can work the area that was attached to the punty with more ease. When I am happy with my ring I will transfer onto a punty stringer with a very tenous attachment point. I then heat up a pair of tweezers so as to not shock the ring when I grab it with them. I break off the stringer fire polish the bellybutten then toss into the annealer.

monarae

2007-11-25, 2:06pm

Wow! Thanks Michael!

Beadbug

2007-11-25, 2:31pm

Michael, can someone take some photos of what you are talking about. I just can't see it in my head. Or maybe someone else can make some drawings???
Please, I just love these rings.

FiG

2007-11-26, 6:38am

I did have somebody take pictures of me making twisty cane last night for an article on twistys I am building for the "Glass Line". Pictures are worth a thousand words. Alas I can not make the rings and take pictures at the same time and it is not easy for me to get somebody in to shoot for me but we shall see.

Carols Glass

2007-11-26, 6:38pm

I would love pictures also. :-)

FiG

2007-12-13, 5:44pm

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hummingbird3172

2007-12-20, 1:00pm

This was a really good idea to make a thread like this!

I like the silvered ivory and enamel trick...never thought of that!

Love the Flaming pastille....so beautiful.

I make all my twisties (canes) on the end of a mandrel (Big thank you to Kimberly Affleck).

My best vine (tree leaf) cane is with nile green, rolled in iris amber green frit, lined with 3 lines of intense black, and then encased with clear. The IAG frit gas this nice way of adding different tones to the green (with minimal effort). I need to buy more IAG so I haven't been able to do this in awhile :roll:.

This is the only picture I could find with a good view of the leaf cane:

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I also like to to make star canes....really really easy, I make a white or opal yellow 3 dimensional star shape on the end of a mandrel and then totally encase it in cobalt. To use is just poke the cane where you want stars and break off...I like adding a twist for movement. This makes excellent starfishes and nice little flowers.

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Another cane I like is a rainbow ribbon.....I make a white lollipop and add stripes of transparent colors in proper rainbow formation....I keep it flat when pulling it.

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mandyjw

2008-02-08, 7:38am

bump! Great thread!

Troll Lover

2008-02-08, 9:18am

Great thread! Tonight I'm going to make some Kimberley twisties!

Jane P

2008-02-09, 5:19pm

I don't think I posted this twistie recipe in this thread - I really like to use opal yellow as a base, a couple of stripes of raku, a couple of quite thin stripes of intense black, and sometimes a stripe or two of medium topaz. I'll post a pic if I can find one.

angelique_redhead

2008-02-10, 5:56am

I'd love to see a picture of this since 2 of my very favorite twisties are intense black and raku and opal yellow and intense black. :love: Angelique

I don't think I posted this twistie recipe in this thread - I really like to use opal yellow as a base, a couple of stripes of raku, a couple of quite thin stripes of intense black, and sometimes a stripe or two of medium topaz. I'll post a pic if I can find one.

greenglasscafe

2008-02-15, 4:20pm

danelady

2008-02-15, 5:03pm

If anyone wants my Opal Yellow, EDP Turquoise, & IB Twisties they are $20 a set and I'll be making some this weekend with Pam (daughter dearest) . Just PM me! (or email danelady@gsinet.net) Apply them over a black bead striped with copper green, and you get this effect:

http://images.etsy.com/all_images/1/116/ccf/il_fullxfull.13784298.jpg

Jenfire

2008-02-27, 2:04pm

Oh I just came across a killer combo! CIM colors all! Celadon paddle, cirrus on top, Thai orchid on top of cirrus then a layer of cirrus on top and bottom. all of these are paddles of color. then clear on the ends so you can pull it then stick your chopsticks or old mandrels into the clear. Heat it up nice and proper and pull and twist. WOW! Of you pull it thick and then use it like a cane for beads holy cow!
Jen

effemess

2008-02-29, 8:55am

I know this sounds too easy but I just love using a base of Lt. Turquoise, with a big stripe of Copper Green and another big stripe of Dk., or Light Ivory.
I like to use for big dots on a base of black or on Tangerine Sparkle.

Angela

I've just made this stringer and a massive Thank You !!! It's fantastic on black.. beautiful, wonderful.... and absolutely yummy..... I'm in :love:

Ari'elle

2008-02-29, 9:16am

I've just made this stringer and a massive Thank You !!! It's fantastic on black.. beautiful, wonderful.... and absolutely yummy..... I'm in :love:This sounds really interesting! Do you have a picture you can share?

ziggys

2008-03-04, 10:49am

I've just made this stringer and a massive Thank You !!! It's fantastic on black.. beautiful, wonderful.... and absolutely yummy..... I'm in :love:

Oh Cool! I'm glad you liked it. *Smile*

ziggys

2008-03-04, 10:50am

This sounds really interesting! Do you have a picture you can share?

I have a picture of it on Tangerine Sparkle. It's not very good but I'll see if I can upload it when I have more time to figure out how. I need the practice anyway. ;-)

ziggys

2008-03-04, 6:33pm

Well Shoot! I tried to upload a picture but I could not get the picture size small enough, even using all my notes and info from LE on how to crop and resize. :(

I'm using Photoshop elements 2.0 and or Picassa. The picture is something like 230 KB.

Effemess, I too would love to see a picture if your able! It looks cooler on black anyway, but I am afraid to even attempt a black bead picture. :lol:.

effemess

2008-03-05, 9:13am

I will make another one and take a pic.. just for you :biggrin:

ziggys

2008-03-06, 10:54am

Thank you!!! And I will figure out how to shrink pictures (I hope).

ziggys

2008-03-07, 8:53pm

a twistie of opal yellow, rubino and intense black.

Actually, there were more but only those ones did the trick, and i'm able to replicate the look with that recipe.

Somehow I missed this one. These look awesome. They remind me of a frit I loved but don't own anymore. I'm going to try this as a replacement.
Thanks!

jaci

2008-09-16, 2:13pm

BUMP!!!
cuz of the twistie exchange of course!!! :)

MerryFool

2008-09-30, 8:58pm

Good one, Jaci...I wouldn't have seen it otherwise!

A_Glass_Bash

2008-11-08, 12:47am

I'll be back :)

Oenone

2008-11-08, 10:04am

I made a really cool twistie combination last weekend. I can't remember if I applied it on Dark Ivory or Vetrofond Yellow Ice, but the effect was so pretty:

1) Make a lollipop if Lauscha Buckhorn with Silver
2) Put Lauscha Olive on one side
3) Put Raku on the other side

Melt, twist and pull like any other twistie.

Here's the bead. I applied the twistie in a random scroll pattern and then added random dots of EFF Ink Blue Transparent:
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Jenfire

2008-11-14, 10:45pm

Ohh very pretty Melanie!
Jen

SunDoorBeads

2009-01-27, 3:03pm

Keep this thread going!!! I love it. I am into making just plain ole raku stripey cane but now have started making raku frit wags with it. I love raku and love when I can find a new application for a twisty!!!!

Vicki B.

2009-01-27, 8:45pm

Oh I love this thread and I even have something good to add!
I am twistie challenged, but have learnt a lot from Mary "Moth's" tut and made my best twisties ever this past week. This is my fav - nice over dark colors too.
I use Kim Affleck's mandrel method too - so much easlier.

Please excuse the husky hair in the bead scan!
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Vicki B.

2009-01-27, 8:55pm

I'd love to see some recipes using Double Helix reducing glass!

monarae

2009-01-27, 11:54pm

That's beautiful vickie!

Mona

Vicki B.

2009-01-28, 8:07am

tonips

2009-01-28, 8:30am

Nancy, I find that putting the hot twisties in a fiber blanket to cool a little slower minimizes the shocking.

Toni

monarae

2009-01-28, 11:32am

Thanks Mona,
It's a triumph to finally get some decent twisties!

I've figured out it takes about an ounce of MAPP to pull a 2 foot twisty. I was able to pull each of these with 1.4 ounces left in my canister. (just in case any HH users are interested - I weigh the canister on a postal scale after each session, deduct 1 lb for the can itself and mark the remaining gas on the canister with a felt tip - DH's idea)

OMG! Why didn't I think of doing that!!! What a great idea! I've always saved twisties and stringers to be made when I'm running out of gas, but never thought to weigh the cannister...I usually just tried to completely run out.

Mona

Vicki B.

2009-01-28, 2:40pm

Actually the canister weighs approx 15.5 oz.

I wouldn't try to do a big or complex (for me) twisty with less than 1.4 oz or so. Hate running out in the middle.

As far as the shockiness, air will cause it, but I also prewarm my twisties on the kiln top.

Vicki B.

2009-01-28, 2:43pm

Anybody feel free to chime in with DH twisty ideas. I see some great ones in beads (I think) but can't tell if they are DH with clear, 2 DH colors twisted tog, or.......

monarae

2009-01-28, 3:07pm

As far as the shockiness, air will cause it, but I also prewarm my twisties on the kiln top.

One of the things I learned in Trey's class regarding twisties is that when you set it down you want air around in in as uniform a way as possible, which means nothing touches the twistie except at the ends. You can also anneal your twisties.

Anybody feel free to chime in with DH twisty ideas. I see some great ones in beads (I think) but can't tell if they are DH with clear, 2 DH colors twisted tog, or.......

Because silver colors are either striking or reducing, you would want to consider that need when thinking about encasing it vs leaving it exposed to the flame (I guess.)

Mona

Yellow Dog Girl

2009-02-09, 2:55pm

I'm chiming in here - please please PLEASE some twisties made with silvered glass. Please?

honey*bee

2009-02-10, 4:32pm

Here you go... Silver glass and DH twistie recipes....

http://www.seraphimflameworks.blogspot.com/

rudiger420

2009-02-10, 9:13pm

Rust and Cinnamin by NS. Plum Crazy and Blue Exotic by NS

FERRET

2009-02-15, 8:02pm

Hi everyone. Thought I'd check out the twisty thread tonight. I saw the link for
seraphimflameworks. Wow, some of those twisty beads are out of this world. For those
of you who didn't keep up with the twisty exchange. Here's a picture of a bead I did
useing one of the twisties I made for the exchange, and the receipe.
The two little beads are the same but on opal yellow.

Twisty = LT. Brown core striped with Wasabi, Nile Green and CIM Black.

Yellow Dog Girl

2009-02-26, 7:30am

Hi, Kristina!

Thanks so much for posting the Seraphim link - have greatly admired their beads for the longest!

danelady

2009-02-26, 1:13pm

Hey Vicki:kiss:
This info is VERY useful... If you figure in the cost of your glass, and the cost of MAPP gas used, what does it end up costing you for a 2 foot pull of Twisty? Any ideas?

The reason I ask is that we have a customer who buys 20 pieces
(ie (20 pieces) - 8 inch lengths equals (6.6 pieces) - 2 foot pulls) of our Raku and IB twisties at a time and she told us that making that amount of pieces on her MAPP torch, figuring cost of MAPP with the cost of the Raku and IB Twisties, ends up costing her over $55, so it's cheaper and less labor intensive for her to buy them from us.

I'm just wondering if she is figuring the cost correctly (I don't know the price of MAPP gas). If she is, the that means that it's cheaper for ANYONE using MAPP to pay to get them (RAKU and IB) made by us... and that sounds incorrect to me. Thanks for the info, it's helpful to me when helping customers decide to make a good decision (for them).

Hugs Pam & Lynnie:love:

Thanks Mona,
It's a triumph to finally get some decent twisties!

I've figured out it takes about an ounce of MAPP to pull a 2 foot twisty. I was able to pull each of these with 1.4 ounces left in my canister. (just in case any HH users are interested - I weigh the canister on a postal scale after each session, deduct 1 lb for the can itself and mark the remaining gas on the canister with a felt tip - DH's idea)

rverk47

2009-08-15, 12:47pm

great info, thx to all!!

moonbeads

2009-08-19, 5:32pm

Love this!

J&M

2010-02-25, 1:41pm

Any more NEW twisty recipes??????

Jack

Jamn!

2010-02-25, 2:00pm

She could be purchasing those small cannisters from Home Depot. They are so expensive for such a little dab of gas!

RCB23

2012-02-08, 11:48am

bump

iloveglass

2012-02-08, 12:09pm

Absolutely gorgeous work Cynthia!

Roo Blaty

2012-02-08, 2:17pm

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The last I read he said "Ok, I will build a thread"....:poke: where?

Roo Blaty

2012-02-08, 2:22pm

ha! found it!

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75360

dla

2012-03-01, 6:27am

I hadn't made any twisties in a VERY long time (I'd say in over 2 years) so went searching here to get started again with some basic ideas and this terrific thread came up. Only one thread of many twistie receipes and how to threads. It brought it all back pretty quickly plus I remembered how I enjoyed trying all the different methods of making them ! Gotta love it ! :)

Jadorsplace

2012-03-03, 8:20am

These are my own handmade twisties with goldstone, bluestone and different patterns.

LampworkbyLori

2012-03-03, 10:54pm

Oooh. Those are very cool! And I've never seen one like the hite one with the little black stripes in between the twists. Nice!

Oh.. I really like that tut by Wes, too! Wish I had a big poker. Did I really type that? :hide:

FishBulb

2012-03-09, 8:59am

Love this thread! All sorts of great ideas here.

cinder

2012-03-09, 7:00pm

Jador, I love your ballerino cane! (The black and white one by the top). Wonderfully balanced on top of everything else. Yay!

I'm too scared to try ballerino just yet.

glassymom

2012-03-09, 11:00pm

Beautiful. I love to make twistys but have never written them down........which is a drag when I find a good one. LOL Gotta start writing them down as of now!!

purpledragonfly

2012-03-14, 12:06pm

here are a few I have done over the last day or two. You can't tell but the clear one in front is actually dichro.

angelique_redhead

2012-03-14, 1:34pm

Looking great, Autumn! :love: Angelique

here are a few I have done over the last day or two. You can't tell but the clear one in front is actually dichro.

purpledragonfly

2012-03-14, 1:41pm

Thanks Angel

28676bhe

2012-05-01, 3:10pm

Bump up! Surely, there are some new ideas~~~~~ I love this thread!

More, please?!?

Barbara

essiemessy

2012-05-01, 4:55pm

Love this thread. Yes, please keep 'em coming.
I haven't come up with anything worth contributing (not for want of trying!), but would love to see more :-)

Rachel

2012-05-12, 9:13pm

The combo I use most will have Michelangelo/Sasha sliver. I do it with just CIM black or intense black. Before pull I reduce and put a thin strip of clear around the whole thing without letting direct flame hit my blob. Then I pull straight or twist. Also the mandrel I got somewhere has flat discs on the bottom and that has helped me a lot with building cane. I hope she still makes them. If anyone is curious just let me.

Ansuya

2012-05-13, 2:38pm

Rachel, do you have a bead with this combo on it? I'm not sure I understand what this looks like. You reduce the blob and then encase before pulling. And the reduction shows up when it's pulled so thin?

I use Michelangelo a lot too, never checked to see if it held the reduction under encasement! Have you bought any recently? The newest batch seemed to not reduce the same as my older batches.

The combo I use most will have Michelangelo/Sasha sliver. I do it with just CIM black or intense black. Before pull I reduce and put a thin strip of clear around the whole thing without letting direct flame hit my blob. Then I pull straight or twist. Also the mandrel I got somewhere has flat discs on the bottom and that has helped me a lot with building cane. I hope she still makes them. If anyone is curious just let me.