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GlassicArt
2008-02-02, 12:42pm
I made some beads, lowering the flame and it worked pretty good with Moretti. Pretty much got the kind of results I hoped for (not as good as you guys but ok for a beginner). But.... I needed more glass and the only thing they had locally was bullseye. I couldn't get the hothead to melt the glass. In low, it almost didn't melt at all and in a higher flame it took really long to melt, came out dark again. Any suggestions?

evolvingBeau
2008-02-02, 12:56pm
Bullseye softens at a bit higher temp than Moretti so this is normal.
Just in case you weren't aware, keep the Bullseye separate from the moretti and don't combine them. Bullseye is 90COE and incompatible with Moretti (104COE).
With the hothead you're just going to have to experiment and find the right fuel adjustment and sweet spot in the flame..You can use a piece of white glass to test and adjust the flame, when you can melt the tip without getting brown carbon scuz, you're on the right track.
Work just above the blue cone in the flame, don't turn the gas all the way up but turn it as high as you can while maintaining a clean flame.(as much of a blue flame as possible, if you're getting alot of yellow in the flame adjust up or down to clear it up).
Hope that helps.
BTW just be patient with the glass heating evenly and deliberately but don't force it, the glass will only take on heat so fast, if you don't take the bead out of the flame to let the heat on the inside catch up with the outside, you run the risk of over heating the surface before the rest is soft enough to melt into shape.
This is especially important with a hothead, you can make wonderful beads with it but because the flame isn't as clean as an oxy-fuel torch you need to be more careful about how hot you get the glass and where you work it in the flame to avoid the scuz.

lunamoonshadow
2008-02-02, 11:24pm
I :love: working bullseye on my hothead--it's slower, but because the glass is stiffer, I find it much easier to control.
You do need to be patient & take your time with it--it's not that much slower than moretti/effetre once you find the spot in the flame & get used to it! Ditto for any of the COE 96 glasses. (I've had no problem getting 8-10mm rods of vintage glass to melt cleanly on the hothead--it's sloooow, but it does happen & the glass is really worth it!)
You might find you get a better & more consistent flame with bulk fuel (BBQ tank full of propane here) vs. the little canisters if that's what you're using.
~luna

evolvingBeau
2008-02-03, 12:35am
Here is another thread that may help:
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80835

gubnavnania
2008-02-03, 12:37am
Same here, I love working on BE on my HH. I don't really notice much the different working with BE and moretti glass on HH.