Shorts...What do you do with them?

[momoharley]

I use mine until the very end, when my hand gets to close to the flame I get out my long pliers and hold it with them. Glass is too pretty and expensive to waste.

[Kalera]

I heat the tip of another rod of the same color and stick them together. With practice, you can get a nearly seamless joint, and just go on using it without any waste at all.

[Hothead Beads]

I melt them to another rod of the same, like Kalera. No waste.

[jewelrybylh]

I make frit out my short rods.
Laurie

[Jane P]

I melt them to another rod of the same, like Kalera. No waste.

"Ditto"

[Teri.p]

Ditto for adding them to a longer rod. As long as I do this as I go along, I don't end up with a pile of shorts.

Teri P

[StellaBlue]

I wait until I have a pile of them in the same color, then spend a few minutes melting them together into a longer rod that I use to make spacers...

Unless it is really expensive or hard-to-get glass; then I punty onto it and use it to the bitter end.

Rita

[Wendyki]

I am hottible I thow them in apileonce in a while and save them to give away sell or for a rainly day :)

[scoutycat]

I usually join them to a longer rod, but sometimes I put it in my jar of shorts if I'm in the middle of something. When I'm 'warming up' at the torch, sometimes I'll melt like colors together. If i'm making frit, I go to the jar first to find colors.

[evilglass]

If it's nice, expensive glass, I use every bit of them...usually, LOL.

Mostly, I dump them on my work surface (granite slab) and a couple of times a year sort through the mess and bag 'em up, to maybe trade or sell if I ever get a scale. I do have a separate section of the mess that I try to put the expensive shorts in....

[Sue H-K]

I throw them into a 9x11 cake pan and then when I'm out of a color or running low, I'll go pick out the shorts in said color and fuse them together.

[NLC Beads]

Keep a pile and make them into Beads of Courage - use up leftover stringer or twistie bits while I'm at it. I use them down to the last maybe 1/8" - whatever I need to hold onto them with pliers....

[CO_Phantom]

I'll use them down to where I feel the heat and then, depending on if I still need that color immediately, I will either toss it aside to deal with later, or I will use the hemostats and use it up entirely.

The ones that are tossed aside for later...well, I have ambition to either make them into frit, or use them if I need a little bit of a color later. I can just grab 'em in the hemostats and use 'em up.

I won't throw them away, though. I hate to waste glass.

-Amy

[ewdb]

i use my shorts to make bead cores or twisties

[lunamoonshadow]

You didn't leave an option for "Send them to me please" or "I've bought people's shorts!"
I don't have shorts of my own--I spin them onto the rod as I'm making a base bead...don't have any fancy rod holder or pliers--I've gotten really good at "stick & spin" on the rods as they get too short for me to hang onto--I just spin them into the base of a bead & Crunch-Press it! I use a random tool off the table to keep them spinning/melting in semi-straight. (Whimsicalities tools are great for poking the rod scraps back in line & so is a tiny brass marver)
Silver glass scraps (because all mine has been gifted!) get used on top, to the last little chip--If it's really short, I might nip it into little millifiore sized pieces & stick my bead into/onto them when it's hot to pick them up. That's the nice thing about the silver glasses--add a few twists & even the little chips can give you something fun!
~luna

[teefee]

I add them to a longer rod also...not necessarily the same color. In fact, as the longer rod I use those weird colored rods that I wonder why I ever bought and know I won't use for anything else :)

[NLC Beads]

You didn't leave an option for "Send them to me please" or "I've bought people's shorts!"
I don't have shorts of my own--I spin them onto the rod as I'm making a base bead...don't have any fancy rod holder or pliers--I've gotten really good at "stick & spin" on the rods as they get too short for me to hang onto--I just spin them into the base of a bead & Crunch-Press it! I use a random tool off the table to keep them spinning/melting in semi-straight. (Whimsicalities tools are great for poking the rod scraps back in line & so is a tiny brass marver)
Silver glass scraps (because all mine has been gifted!) get used on top, to the last little chip--If it's really short, I might nip it into little millifiore sized pieces & stick my bead into/onto them when it's hot to pick them up. That's the nice thing about the silver glasses--add a few twists & even the little chips can give you something fun!
~luna

I just got a new pair of pliers that rock - I need to get you a pair - they're perfect for shorts, good grip on the glass, and nice handles, too. :D

And yes, I buy other people's shorts... :-#

[Karen Hardy]

I bring mine to the So Cal Flamesurfers meeting, and donate them to
a good cause (my buddy Rich Santa Clause!). He makes the most
beautiful marbles with them - I love seeing my twistie odds end up
in one of his marbles!

[categ50]

I melt mine on the end of the same color and use to the end, bash some into frit and use others that are a little longer to pull a 1 or 2mm stringer end to use for swirls. I have a glass full of the latter in all colors, and it comes in handy when I decide to swirl something after I have started the bead.

[StellaBlue]

My husband (he isn't registered for this board yet) grabs shorts from our shorts bin and melts them onto a base paddle to make awesome twisties, encased cane, latticinos, all manner of pretty things...

[momoharley]

Awsome ideas everyone! I didn't know I could fuse them to one another, I figured it would cause a weakness in the glass. But know that I think about it that doesn't make sense, we add glass to glass all the time. Duh!

[Jane P]

When I took my first class the teacher showed us how to do it. She said to slightly pull the "fuse" apart as it is hardening up so that you don't get a big lump. This way, for some reason it helps avoid any "shocking" later when you are melting to that point - not always, but most of the time.

Awsome ideas everyone! I didn't know I could fuse them to one another, I figured it would cause a weakness in the glass. But know that I think about it that doesn't make sense, we add glass to glass all the time. Duh!

[Bohemibeads]

I crush them into tiny pieces and use them as frit, or fuse it to another piece of the same color.

[kismet]

I use them until I feel the heat, then I set aside and use to make stringers. They way nothing is wasted.

[FordGirlGoneBad]

I make twisties out of my shorts (I wonder if that's anything like getting my panties in a knot???:grin:) And once in a while stringers...but I use them to the very end.

[Hayley]

I use this awesome tool:

http://merickal.com/

[nitefire]

I make frit with some of my shorts. I have an awesome frit masher that DH made me. The other glass shorts i punty together or share with a newby friend.

Elaine

My solid steel frit maker named monster mash.
55948

[teachertracey]

I use this awesome tool:

http://merickal.com/


Now that is pretty nifty. I bookmarked that site quickly! Thanks.

[chrissij]

I either toss 'em aside and save 'em (for what I don't really know), or melt 'em to another rod.

[tt4st]

When the rod gets too short to comfortably hold onto - I clip the rod end into my looped hemostats. I can then use that down to about 1/3", then into the water it goes!

[Firebrand Beads]

I make twisties out of my shorts (I wonder if that's anything like getting my panties in a knot???:grin:) And once in a while stringers...but I use them to the very end.
LOL! Don't get your shorts all twisted!
Yeah, I use 'em, I save 'em, I sort them into transparents and opaques... and occasionally sift through looking for enough butt-ends of that one color I know I bought years ago that would be *perfect* for that one particular project... but mostly I use them for stringers.

[mmdl2bl]

I use them for stringers, frit, I have tail nippers (rod holders) to use all of it, I agre glass is way too pretty and expensive to waste.

[Hayley]

Now that is pretty nifty. I bookmarked that site quickly! Thanks.

you are welcome - I used to have all these shorts I were going to attach to longer rods . . . now I use them all the way to about 1/2" (sometimes all the way)!

[G.L.McBead]

I always hook it to a longer rod.
G.

[piggles]

Wasting glass...... isnt that alot like wasting alchohol? Abuse I tell you Abuse!!

I have a plant pot that mine are all sitting in but now you have all inspired me to do something with them. Especially since I cant make a nice bead to save my soul right now. Maybe Im trying too hard, not holding my mouth right I dont know! Yes I think I will make stringers, maybe some frit.

[DaBatt]

Hayley they look like a very cool tool!
I use a pair of Murrini hemostats - the best investment I ever made. I've even got used to manipulating then so I can hold them the same way as I do a rod. I can use rods down to the last 3/8"
They'll hold the thickest rod you can imagine, but they are no good for any diameter smaller than approx 3mm... & the last lot of ASK colours I got are more like stringers than rods!
Think I'll have to look at a pair of the Micro Merikals ;)

[rainygrrl]

That tool does look cool! I find the murrini hemostats hard to use--not coordinated enough, I guess. I always fused my shorts until I read a tip here about using a wooden clothespin soaked in water. I wish I knew who mentioned this. It works for me, although the ends get burnt and you have to replace the clothespin periodically. You might even be able to carve a stringer holder into it, I'm not sure.

[jaci]

umm is hold it till you feel the heat and then continue to burn yourself thinking you can get more out of it an option???? LOL that is pretty much me. I toss them in color coodinated bins and use them for twisties and pulling flowers, leaves and tiny dots and such!

[LaurieBSmith]

I use a rod down to my finger tips...or I don't. If I don't then it ends up on my bench, until I clean up, then it sits in a box.

I've finally sold some...and will be selling the rest.

I use most of the glass I buy....just not all.

[LaurieBSmith]

AND.. I do sometimes, use an Uncle Al Rod Grabber....if it's in reach.

[jamie lynne]

there is no such thing as a short when it comes to my silver glass. that stuff is too expensive to just toss aside. my clear and black is another story....

[SadiesJewels]

I keep the shorts until the urge comes for me to sort them into pairs - then I use them to join together. If there's no match I use the merickal to use to the last. Fingers only make it to 2"!

[moonofglass]

Like so many others have said, I fuse mine together. If I'm on my last rod of a color, I've saved them in a jar to make frit out of.

[Diane Gates]

I have used mine and fused them into a turtle or lizard mold. But usually I just use a pliers and use every piece of it.

[lbloomer]

I've been one to just throw the shorts into a tin, with the intention of making frit out of it. Well as it stands I could probably make frit for everyone on LE and then some. Lately I've been taking the 2-3" peices on my bench and practicing making spacers with them as a warm up. I figure I used that color for something recently and a spacer wouldn't hurt. I just get it warm enough to grab onto the mandrel then I let go of it, (I do like my fingertips!) and practice my heat control by letting it wrap itself around the mandrel. At least I'm using them up, not casting them aside.
Jaquetta

[Oenone]

My answer to this question has a direct relationship to another question, which is "Do you want suppliers to put labels on all of your rods".

And the answer to that is no, because I like to use my shorts as I go along, but if they have labels I have to stop, pick up another rod and then sometime later spend time taking all the labels off before I can go weld them together to use them up. Or I have to waste my time before I torch taking the labels off.

Either way, I use those darn shorts up completely and curse the people who sold me the glass while I'm doing the label removing. :D

I also use up all my stringer leftovers and bits by breaking them into small pieces, separating them by colour and using them as frit.

[jamie lynne]

ohh i'm a label freak, i want every thing labeled, i hate not knowing exactly what i'm using, i take a lot of notes about successes and failures so knowing exactly what i was using is essential. most of the moretti colors and vetro i know just looking at it, but my silver glass... soo much of it looks alike before it hits the flame that i feel the need to label everything. i guess i'm the odd man out, lol

[sgp]

I love shorts! I have bought shorts as I was learning to make beads because the glass was so much cheaper. I fuse them to longer rods, have one of the merikal tools (I love it) and think it's great to be a little surprised sometimes when they don't have a label. Sign me up to take any shorts no one wants!

Sharlyn

[Jumazio]

I throw them into a box next to my bench, and there they sit. What kind of prices do you get for selling them. Could one fuse them into a plate. Though I sorta like the box, its really colorfull and reminds me of all the hours I spend melting glass.

Jumazio

[saboo]

We have a box of short ends, I can't hold ones shorter than 3 inches although my husband can hand hold them down to 1 1/2 inches. (GTT torch).
We always pick frit combos out of the box, makes for fast blends and always keeps us inspired by using new frits:)
Keep it hot!
Sabrina

[beadworkstudio]

Until recently, I tossed shorts (2" long or so) unless they were expensive or rare. Now I keep them in a box because I threw away so many shorts of old Moretti white and really regret it. You never know when a color will go to hell and you'll treasure those shorts!

[artsyuno]

I use mine to make twisties or, more frequently, to pull pairs of thin stringer with handles by making a gather at the connection of two rods of the same color and then pulling and flame cutting the middle of the stringer.

[simvet02]

I do all of the above, depending on the color or my mood. I do have a huge bottle of them. I have labels on all of my rods and if I forget to take the label off before I get too close to the end I hold it with tweezers to finish up.
As for the silver glass, I use it to the bitter end. I do like the idea of cutting them into chips. I'll have to try that. Cool idea.

[mary1_$]

I melt to another rod.Make frit. Use all my shorts. And any shorts I buy or get gifted. I love shorts. I have been gifted shorts and it gave me a chance to see new glass.After all we cant have all glass can we?

[JelvehDesigns]

I use them to the end, by either fusing them to a longer rod of same color or using my tweezers to hold them...

[DesertDreamer]

I wait until I have a pile of them in the same color, then spend a few minutes melting them together into a longer rod that I use to make spacers...

Unless it is really expensive or hard-to-get glass; then I punty onto it and use it to the bitter end.



That's what I do. I use a lot of clear shorts as punties for other colors.

Another thing I do is punty and pull the last inch or two into stringer.

[Teresa justice]

Great hubby's choice........Never thought about making twisties or paddles for center to make latachino.
What I do is make beautiful focal Paciso Beads. Reckless abandmont I call it. Something I pulled out of my Watercolor paintings. Lay it down and let her rip...........
I have all my shorts together.
close my eyes reach down pick up at least 3 shorts. than heat the tip of the short ,
let it fuse to dipped mandrel. Than do the same to the others. I let them go where they want to and I think they come out beautiful.
Secret is don't choose by colors. If you end up with all 3 being the same color. I use an
adventurne stringer Gold Blue or Green. Just poke it into the mix and let it do what it chooses, also black ,twistie, foil etc.
Please excuse my spelling, due to illness for a long time I have forgottened how to spell.
I have reverted back to Starting in the middle of a word and end it .
Great Thread
Teresa justice.

[mdimatteo]

I melt them into a bead I'm making. I also gather up all the bits on my table put them into piles that play nicely and make what I call "waste beads". Sometimes they come out ahem and sometimes they're very pretty. I do it by melting a little glass onto the mandrel then when it's hot I just start picking up the bits. It's kind of an adventure and it keeps my rather small worktable (a slab of marble really) clean.
Mary

[fireside glass]

All my shorts get a clear 6mm handle and on the end I make mini marbles with a dot of the color the short is, so when I'm looking for color I just look at end of rods for color dots instead of looking at the 'color short' end... I know this might sound a little excessive, but I really don't use a TON of different colors so after a few sessions you ahve all the 6mm clear rods you need with the color dot marbles/counterweight/whatever ya wanna call em already premade and prelabeled correctly...

[bousky]

I use the add the end to the a new rod method. Except with clear. I have a ton of clear shorts. To be effective with clear it requires cleaning and picking ends, then there is still scum and bubbles. I do it if I am out of clear and the new order hasn't arrived yet.

[ellyloo]

My answer to this question has a direct relationship to another question, which is "Do you want suppliers to put labels on all of your rods".

And the answer to that is no, because I like to use my shorts as I go along, but if they have labels I have to stop, pick up another rod and then sometime later spend time taking all the labels off before I can go weld them together to use them up. Or I have to waste my time before I torch taking the labels off.

Either way, I use those darn shorts up completely and curse the people who sold me the glass while I'm doing the label removing. :D

I also use up all my stringer leftovers and bits by breaking them into small pieces, separating them by colour and using them as frit.


AMEN!!!
I mean, I want to know what they are, but i HHhhhhhhhate labels.
Most of my shorts are because they have labels. Otherwise i use them all up.

[dragonfly designs 56]

I have boxes of them, when i run out of a color, i fuse um together and use um up

[Almost Gothic]

I've just been saving them. I have a big bucket of 'em. I knew there was a good reason I didn't throw them out! lol.

[dragonfly designs 56]

I have mine in a bucket too!!!!


I've just been saving them. I have a big bucket of 'em. I knew there was a good reason I didn't throw them out! lol.

[ellyloo]

I need to go through mine again.

[Kevan]

I use them til they are too short to hold. If it's a color I really need, I'll weld them to another rod to get the last bit out of them. If it's a silver color I'll keep it. I give away all my other shorts.

[brimmy]

You can just burn off the labels if you have good ventilation. I just weld them together and then burn off the label. Very very rarely do I have to worry about pulling residue off the end, and I would have had to do it anyways because its from the glue, not the paper.

[jaci]

yea... burn off label... errrr I guess this is where my yellow electrical tape labels become "epic fail" :lol:

BUT they say on sooo much better than paper ones mom!!!! :lol:

[Mermaid Glass]

I've been using my shorts to make some really pretty hand-blended custom colors lately. I've actually been using my big mac daddy kiln to do this so it's not exactly 'hand-blending', I guess.

~Laurie

[patienthand]

I fuse them to the next rod of the same color.

Candice

[RyanTheNumberImp]

I toss em. Unfortunately, I throw a lot of glass out. It just never seems to be worth the time to fuse them together. Thick rods can be shocky when reheated so the entire venture would become preheat, fuse, anneal.

[jaci]

there is a thread here somewhere on how to make shorts into a business card holder :) that was a GREAT idea for shorts!!

[mary1_$]

Save them and send them to me. I will make frit out of them and split the frit with you. That way we can both gain from them. Better than tossing them. Some of the frit I mix that way is really sweet. Of course you have only the frit they make and cant match it. Makes great one of a kind beads. Thank it over. Lovies mary



I toss em. Unfortunately, I throw a lot of glass out. It just never seems to be worth the time to fuse them together. Thick rods can be shocky when reheated so the entire venture would become preheat, fuse, anneal.

[mary1_$]

If you dont have enough to fuse togather make frit.I wont waist ant glass. I have sent some to new people several times. I was sent some when I was new.At lease share with new people so they can try differant colors.Most love it. Lovies mary

[agate58]

Hi Everyone, this is Glenn. I got tired of of getting to close to the flame, So I developed a light weight short rod holder. I use mine everyday. The nice thing about my rod holders is you can actually pick a rod up off your work table while keeping your bead warm with the other hand. when rotating the rod it stays straight.
You can continue working the rod down to one half of an inch.
If anyone is interested I have some listed on etsy

http://www.etsy.com/listing/48141272/lampwork-short-rod-set-of-holders

http://www.etsy.com/listing/47016382/lampwork-short-rod-holder-lampwork-beads

http://www.etsy.com/listing/47191162/lampwork-short-rod-stringer-holder

[RyanTheNumberImp]

If you dont have enough to fuse togather make frit.I wont waist ant glass. I have sent some to new people several times. I was sent some when I was new.At lease share with new people so they can try differant colors.Most love it. Lovies mary

The main problem is 90%+ of my shorts is 12mm-17mm clear or black. I don't have much variety. If you can use a lot of clear I will be happy to send you a pile though.

[mary1_$]

I could fuse the clear togather and use them. I use clear to pull stringers to twist with as well. Fuse them togather and pull large stringers for encasing beads etc.But you can do that yourself. I use a large amount of clear and black so I try to fuse them most of the time. Black adds zing to some frit. Depends on what color base bead you use and what color you crush with the black to make the frit. I love making my own frit as I have colors no one sell's or I can't remake. Makes the beads one of a kind when the frit is gone. HA HA! If you save some short's and want some frit let me know. Some people don't want to make frit. I use a resporator when I make it I use a coffee bean grinder to make mine. I get great frit with it but it is a mess to do. Glass dust everywhere. Not all coffee grinders hold up well with glass. If you do send some I need to know what coe it is so I dont mix them. I will send you some of the frit I have on hand. Have you had any that is fine as dust? I could send you some. But I use a mask when I use it. I don't want and in my lung's. Let me know.Lovies Mary



QUOTE=RyanTheNumberImp;3049805]The main problem is 90%+ of my shorts is 12mm-17mm clear or black. I don't have much variety. If you can use a lot of clear I will be happy to send you a pile though.[/QUOTE]

[evilglass]

If it's nice, expensive glass, I use every bit of them...usually, LOL.

Mostly, I dump them on my work surface (granite slab) and a couple of times a year sort through the mess and bag 'em up, to maybe trade or sell if I ever get a scale. I do have a separate section of the mess that I try to put the expensive shorts in....

Quoting myself. Wow-2.5 years later and I still do the same thing, lol.

[HONEYBUNNY72_99]

I have been using my shorts to make murrini

[zen-mom]

It depends on the color, anything more than 6" stays in the shorts bucket for use in classes. Anything under gets weighed into 1# increments and gets sold... if it's a color I use then I use it till it get too hot to hold and then I "weld" it to a clear rod and use it up.

[mtnlaurel]

I melt them to another rod of the same, like Kalera. No waste.

Duh...why didn't I think of that! I just keep piling them up. I make frit sometimes, but I have a huge stash of shorts\\:D/

[Jenne]

As a newbie, I mostly use the shorts that others don't want....but then they get way too short. What's the cheapest way to make a frit maker? I can't afford to buy one but want to make frit out of the 'short shorts'.

[zen-mom]

If you have a kiln you can pop them in, heat 'em up for an hour or so, them pluck 'em out and drop them in some water... put a coffee filter in a strainer and pour the water and glass into it... let the water drain off and lay the "frit" out to dry.

[Jenne]

If you have a kiln you can pop them in, heat 'em up for an hour or so, them pluck 'em out and drop them in some water... put a coffee filter in a strainer and pour the water and glass into it... let the water drain off and lay the "frit" out to dry.

Awesome, thanks!

[zen-mom]

Your welcome! I learned it from Leah Fairbanks... kinda. She heats her glass up in the torch and drops it in water but if your shorts are too short then you can heat them in the kiln and pluck 'em out with a long hemostat or tweezer... easy! :)

[zen-mom]

Oh and this way eliminates any of the glass dust like when using a hammer.

[whodatwoman]

I use Murrini Hemostats from ARTCO (http://www.artcoinc.com/hemostats.php) for my shorts. I love this tool!! I use them all the way to less than 1/2". The tiny bits that are left I plan on using for fusing.

[DarkFlowerBead]

I save everything. I use them down to the barest part where it hurts (years of baking have given me asbestos fingers). I have a "special shorty" bin for my silver glass. I even save silver glass stinger shorties. I use them for making frit. My buddy Dave and I collect all the shocked glass off our work table and make "party frit" with all the cheap glass and special blends with the bigger pieces. I use silver glass in the stick and swirl method where you stick a shorty to the bead and head and swirl until every drop melts in. He just bought a frit maker from Devardi to keep up with all our shorties. Its a lot of fun making and naming them and of course testing them :)
Cara

[gemsinbloom]

I have different containers labeled , CIM shorts, Moretti shorts, etc etc and when I run out of glass and money, I glue them together lol

I love my shorts. They have saved my ass many times.

[J. Savina]

I posted this tip a while back. I just melt the end of the rod and slightly squeeze the molten glass with my pliers. I do it on a slight angle so I can hold them with the pliers when I use them in the flame. Then I place it in fiber blanket to cool slowly. With the expensive silver glass, I melt some clear on the end of the rod and then squeeze with my pliers. This is so I can use every bit of it. Waste not, want not. Right?

J.

[Pia Kaven]

I didnt find my choice on list... I heat them up and attach them to an end of a same color rod, and I just keep torching. I do this every time after torching. If it is shorter than 4 inches, it gets transformed to a long rod! If I run out of color and dont have anything to attach it to... I am in trouble, it messes up my system. I cant stand loose shorts piling up! Yeah, kinda control freak... :lol: I sweep my table with a paint brush to make sure there is no little shards. I am helpless...

[chrissij]

I didnt find my choice on list... I heat them up and attach them to an end of a same color rod, and I just keep torching. I do this every time after torching. If it is shorter than 4 inches, it gets transformed to a long rod! If I run out of color and dont have anything to attach it to... I am in trouble, it messes up my system. I cant stand loose shorts piling up! Yeah, kinda control freak... :lol: I sweep my table with a paint brush to make sure there is no little shards. I am helpless...

Can I get that in pill form?

[Pia Kaven]

Hahaa, you are funny! :lol:
I just do it, cause I want to find my colors fast, and to know how much I have them, and the biggest reason is, that I dont have yet a proper storage for my glass, so I have to try to make the best out of it, so I actually can work some. It is not always a blessing, Im tellin ya! Sometimes I think I waste so much time with organizing, that I dont have time left to torch! :pout:

Can I get that in pill form?

[jaci]

hey i do the paintbrush thing too!!! ...................it does not come in pill form :lol:
but they go in the big glass trash bucket
;) one of those metal beer buckets :)

[GlassyEyedGirl]

Sometimes I donate my shorts to the local glass artists society, ISLAGA, so new members can have glass to experiment with.

[danielle]

I use rubber-handled alligator clips I got at home depot and modded a bit with my pliers as short holders. The very tiny <1" long shorts that remain after that go into a jar, and eventually get used to messily mush onto a more organic focal or something like that.