Show me your River Rock!

[Frogsongstudio]

Hi everyone,

I bought several pounds of River Rock a while back but haven't really done much with it. When I first got it I went, eew, and thought they sent me the wrong color.

Now I hear it's sold out and not expected to be made again.
I haven't seen a lot of beads made with it so I was wondering if you all could show me your beads made with River Rock and maybe it will inspire me to play with it as I wasn't that impressed with the first beads I made with it.

Also, are there any colors or techniques that go really well with it?

Thanks,

Debra

[Tropical Heat]

If you decide to sell it can I have first dibs! LOL
Naos uses it a lot for her focals, check them out.






Hi everyone,

I bought several pounds of River Rock a while back but haven't really done much with it. When I first got it I went, eew, and thought they sent me the wrong color.

Now I hear it's sold out and not expected to be made again.
I haven't seen a lot of beads made with it so I was wondering if you all could show me your beads made with River Rock and maybe it will inspire me to play with it as I wasn't that impressed with the first beads I made with it.

Also, are there any colors or techniques that go really well with it?

Thanks,

Debra

[Frogsongstudio]

Well I haven't decided to sell it yet. I'd like to explore it first.
But if I do decide to sell it you'll be the first to know.
Although someone just Pm'd me and told me how much it was selling for. "GASP"
I'm glad I bought it when I did.

Who is Nanos? Does she have a website?

[caspertorch]

You could probably fund a nice trip to Europe if you sold it... lol

[Frogsongstudio]

LOL. so I hear. I had no idea they weren't making it anymore.

[melissabeads]

I think Pam was refering to Amber.. NAOS.. Yes, she makes amazing art with river rock.. Try it with Terra.. you will LOVE IT!!

[melissabeads]

Here is one....

It is yummy glass!!!!

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[Frogsongstudio]

Oooh that is pretty!
And Naos I know. I'll go see what she has in the River rock!

Thanks,

Debra

[Nonie]

To me it just looks like dark ivory. Am I way off?

[Janell]

I love it with silvered Ivory. Mine is alot darker than the beads I just looked at.

[bazile]

Here is a set, I sold a while ago, I have been keeping the rest for something special..not that I have a lot!

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[Kevan]

It's darker than dark ivory.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o53/konact/DSC_0002-1.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o53/konact/rocksilvertubeclose.jpg

[*Naos*]

It's way better than Dark Ivory - has wonderful reactions with silver and enamels, likes silver glass, too!

River Rock and Psyche
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/18187139/287410140.jpg

River Rock, enamels, stringer
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/18187139/285864849.jpg

River Rock, enamels, SIS
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/18304562/290319770.jpg

River Rock and Terra
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/18304562/289245532.jpg

River rock, silver and EDP
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/18304562/289230967.jpg

River Rock and silver wire
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/18304562/288735292.jpg

[Carolyn M]

Beautiful beads. Amber your organics are orgasmic

(I've wanted to write that for ages!)

[Lara]

Oh man, I had 2 rods of RR and I used them up quick. I'm so bummed I didn't buy more, it is awesome. All with Psyche shards.

[C-Ann]

Now I have an idea on what to do with the River Rock stash. Beautiful beads Amber :)

[Frogsongstudio]

OOooh, I love that psyche! Who makes it and where can I get it?

Tink and Naos, I've always been a big fan of your beads. Thank you for posting pictures. they're beautiful.

Thank all of you for posting pictures. I love them all.
Kevan that first bead is wonderful! What color did you use with it and is that just plain River Rock or did you roll it in silver?

If this is selling for as much as I was told it was selling for, I'm afraid to even use it now...LOL

[Lara]

Psyche is made by Double Helix Glassworks and is one of those infused with silver. I think it is $70-$100 a pound. It is so cool.

Frog - You know, I'm of the school, just use it. It is better than letting it just sit there and collecting dust.

[Frogsongstudio]

Thank you Lara! I'll go look for that Psyche.

I will use it, but I want to make sure I know what to do with it first. I don't want to waste it due to trial and error. Hence the reason for this post. I want to learn what works and what doesn't before I start playing with it.

I bet it would look really great with some electroforming. I tlooks like it would. I've been dying to get an electroforming kit for over a year now. Maybe I'll save it until I can miraculously afford the electroforming kit.

Debra

[Nonie]

Of course I want some but I'll never get my hands on any will I?

[VivianLampwork]

It loves the silver glasses!!

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1099517/73007012riverrockreactives1.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1099517/72307010zeusshards3.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/1099517/110507031.jpg

[Kevan]

Laura, wow. Those are stunning. k

[crystalflipz]

I love River Rock! I'm trying to be very careful about how I use the last bit I have, but it does such neat things I keep wanting to play with it. It really does excel with silver glass. Here are a couple of mine.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/crystalflipz/Assortedfocalbeads1b.jpg
Kandinsky green over River Rock

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/crystalflipz/AvacadoOYGaiatubularfocal.jpg
River Rock and Opal Yellow swirled together with Gaia

[crystalflipz]

Lara,
Those are absolutely to die for! Gorgeous colors out of the psyche.

[crystalflipz]

Amber, I love the one with silver and EDP. I thought it was Raku until I read the description, just by looking at the picture.

[Tropical Heat]

I think Pam was refering to Amber.. NAOS.. Yes, she makes amazing art with river rock.. Try it with Terra.. you will LOVE IT!!


Yup! My brain was numb this morning! Sorry Amber!

[villa design]

Oooh... I'm glad I found this thread!

[Carols Glass]

I'm so glad I didn't sell my river rock.

[Imelt4U]

soooo.... river rock is not the same thing as rocios river stone? Has anybody tried the river stone?

[artwhim]

Debra, since you bought several pounds, you could sell enough to afford the electroforming kit and still have some left to play with. It's amazing how much the glass goes for on the secondary market.

[barbbbeads]

I have a half pound coming my way from Flame Kissed Glass. I bought it from her on EBay. I paid a pretty penny for it, but if it's all that's left for resale, I don't mind. I can't wait to play with it! A half pound can go a long way. Very pretty glass.

[crystalflipz]

Deonne has some in her Ebay store, Galaxy Glass.

[alaskagirl]

I just spent a small fortune restocking my stash after I got some last fall for my birthday - it is amazing stuff - enjoy it!

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Laura

[piggles]

B E A utiful beads everyone!! Is it the same as Riverock - Odd avocado?
Because I got some kind of gray/green in one of my beads Ill have to find that its here somewhere....
I have been hording my last 3 rods until I can make a bead thats worth a darn!
hahaha!!! It could be a while#-o:doubt:#-o

[ziggys]

B E A utiful beads everyone!! Is it the same as Riverock - Odd avocado?
Because I got some kind of gray/green in one of my beads Ill have to find that its here somewhere....
I have been hording my last 3 rods until I can make a bead thats worth a darn!
hahaha!!! It could be a while#-o:doubt:#-o

That's what I have, ie; River Rock aka Odd Avacodo according to Frantz.

It IS beautiful glass. I kept treating it like Ivory but thinking it looked way better and wished I had spent more time NOT covering it up with other glass.
So much more variation in colors than Ivory.

Thanks for the gorgeous beads picture show and the heads up!

PS: Naos, Your RR, Silver and EDP is too good for words!

[sueandkona]

I have four rods of pastel Avocado Green, 591210. I got it a while ago - don't remember when. Is that River Rock?

Sue

[Beadzz]

I have four rods of pastel Avocado Green, 591210. I got it a while ago - don't remember when. Is that River Rock?

Sue

The number is 791931 Vetrofond Avocado Odd , that is the River Rock

[Alicemakesbeads]

So I have material labeled Avacado and then some labeled River Rock, are they the same thing?? Any tips on recognizing the colors in the rod form?

A : )

[Alicemakesbeads]

The number is 791931 Vetrofond Avocado Odd , that is the River Rock

I'll use this number to check what I have-Thanks for the info!

[*Naos*]

Frog, don't worry about messing it up - it's as forgiving as Dark Ivory. Use silver, any of the silver glasses and enamels with it...it will love you back, I promise! :)

Question - are your rods smooth or rough?

[GinnyHampton]

I was gifted with a little stash at Christmas, so here's a few I made with some of my beloved river rock . . . . all of these are river rock with Terra and all are etched. Terra resists etching, so all of the Terra deco is shiny while the river rock is matte, it looks cool!!

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[Beadzz]

What a gorgeous beads :love:

Maybe Mike comes back from Italy with River Rock, will they be able to remake it?? I sure hope so..

[Frogsongstudio]

Naos, my rods are rough like the dark ivory. I have some of the silver colors but haven't done much with them. I haven't had much luck getting them to work for me. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I think I just need to practice, but it's so expensive I hate to waste it so it just sits there....LOL

Ginny, those beads are gorgeous!

Debra

[rainygrrl]

Wow, everyone's beads are stunning!

Debra, I have a few rods and they are smooth and not at all like dark ivory. They look like the picture below.

I made a raked bead that I really like with river rock, and I tried to replicate it with the darkest rod of dark ivory I have. It didn't really work. Hopefully you can see the difference in reticulation. The river rock is the darker one.

ETA: Sorry for the shockingly big pic!

[Frogsongstudio]

Hi Roberta,

I wonder if there were different batches of it? Mine feel more like the rods of dark ivory.
I know I love dark ivory so when I saw the river rock I bought lots. When I got it I cursed Frantz for sending me the wrong color.....LOL I expected it to look more like the dark ivory but it looked like baby poop, so here I thought I was stuck with this ugly baby poop color. But then I melted the end of one of the rods and flattened it and I saw that it looked more like dark ivory and less like baby poop so I had to take all my cursing back. :-#

Thank you for posting the dark ivory and river rock beads together so I can see the difference. It's definitely nicer than the dark ivory.

I can't imagine why they can't figure out how to make it again.

Debra

[Frogsongstudio]

Vivian, I almost missed yours!
They're beautiful! but how to you get such pretty colors out of the silver glass. It just doesn't seem to want to work for me.

Does the River rock try to swallow colors like the dark Ivory?

[Frogsongstudio]

Roberta, I'm looking at the picture of your river rock. I don't know if it's the lighting or what, but yours almost looks translucent. Are your rods translucent? Mine are opaque.

[VivianLampwork]

Thanks, river rock just seems to be a good base for the silver glass & it will swallow it up if you work it to long. When using the striking silver glass like terra & khaos just heat it up really hot & take it out of the flame. You'll see it turn a real dark color as it cools, then flash it back in the flame until you get the colors you want. You can also spot heat areas to get different colors. If you are going to encase, you do that while the bead is the dark color at the beginning.

[*Naos*]

There were different batches. I prefer the rough rods because I think they spread more. I have a bunch of the smooth rods but they tend to be more shocky for me. Quite a few prefer the smooth though.

Ginny - WOW - that set is just scrumptious!

[rainygrrl]

Debra, my rods are rather translucent until they're heated. Very pretty in the unmelted stage. Thanks for explaining why Amber.

[Cherine Perrin]

River Rock and Psyche
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[Frogsongstudio]

I really need to get me some of that Psyche! I wish I had known before I placed my order from Frantz, I would have added that to the order.

Now I'll have to wait until I'm ready to order again dernit!

[Firebug]

These are all River Rock and Psyche.

Cheers
Kathy

[barbbbeads]

The number is 791931 Vetrofond Avocado Odd , that is the River Rock

I've had this in my rack and never tried it until a couple of weeks ago. I love it. But it's o.k. that I bought the River Rock too. I only have a couple of rods left of the Avocado Odd, so now I have a bigger stash! Plus, I have some regular Avocado pastel that I haven't tried yet. It was in the same bin as my Avocado Odd.

This gets so confusing with all these same colors being named differently.

[Frogsongstudio]

Barbara, they aren't actually the same color. From what I understand, the River Rock was basically a mistake that was made when they were making the Avocado. So it's different then the Avocado and it's also the reason they can't make more of it. Because they don't know how they made it in the first place.

Hopefully someone will figure it out though.

Debra

[mikefrantz]

Until midnight tonight or until we sell 20 pounds of Double Helix Khaos, for each one pound unit bought at retail price we will include a free 1/4 pound of Vetrofond Riverrock. This sell will be over at midnight tonight which is Friday the 8th of February.

mike

[AKDesigns]

Are you saying that for every pound of Khaos you will include a 1/4lb of River Rock?

[AKDesigns]

Duh....went to your website and that's exactly what you are saying!

[AKDesigns]

If you have River Rock and you haven't tried using it yet....don't. I'm totally hooked on it and now I no longer like using Dark Ivory anymore. Only River Rock will do.

[Carols Glass]

I really loved these beads and used them as the background for my etsy banner.

[Frogsongstudio]

But I want the Psyche!.....LOL

[barbbbeads]

Barbara, they aren't actually the same color. From what I understand, the River Rock was basically a mistake that was made when they were making the Avocado. So it's different then the Avocado and it's also the reason they can't make more of it. Because they don't know how they made it in the first place.

Hopefully someone will figure it out though.

Debra

You're right, they aren't the same between Avocado and Avocado Odd. The regular Avocado is #591210 and the odd, called Avocado Odd, is #791931. I have both, but the 791931 is the same as what's called River Rock.

If all the suppliers would post the same #'s as the mfg. companies use to identify their glass colors, it would make it a lot easier for us to determine what we're buying instead of relying on esoteric names that each supplier wants to give them.

[LyndaJ]

Ahhhhh, but that way they sell more. because we have no willpower to resist new glass!

[CCraig]

Aww to bad we had such short notice on this special Mike, I would have ordered but just missed it. Oh well, me loss again. :|

[LoriBird]

and psyche
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[JavaGirlBT]

You're right, they aren't the same between Avocado and Avocado Odd. The regular Avocado is #591210 and the odd, called Avocado Odd, is #791931. I have both, but the 791931 is the same as what's called River Rock.

Right. Plus Avocado is an Effetre color and River Rock is a Vetrofond color. 591... is used to designate an Effetre color and 791... a Vetrofond color. So you can tell at a glance they're different manufacturers.

[coyotesfamily]

and psyche
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oh that is a yummy yummy bead!!!!!!! :love:

[Magicfire]

Here are some BHB's I made the for BHB/Biagi/Pandora exchange. They are river rock, terra and psyche. I love how the river rock was fumed by the silver glasses and looks like really ancient ivory.

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I'm so glad I bought a lot of rr when it was first available! I've been stretching it by using a base of vetrofond dark ivory, then putting a little rr on top.

I really like the vetrofond dark ivory too (the odd semi/translucent one). It's also pretty cheap! It doesn't curdle like the rr, but otherwise is very nice. I wouldn't pay extra for the really translucent rods though...it pretty much turns opaque anyway, unless you make a quick disk.

I got mine from Jessica at Phoenix. I just got more last week and it is pretty translucent, if you are worried about that.

Love the beads in this thread!! :love:

-Patti

[LoriBird]

Thanks Sondra :D

[Lee]

I wonder........

The beads that Lisi showed the other day? The ones with the ivory burnished with silver foil then dotted with clear??? Would it work even better with River Rock in place of the ivory?????

[mintleaf]

I bought 2 lbs of river rock from LB Supply a long time ago with Lemon Merigue, cool white and other colors. The rods are brown/translucent is this the same stuff everyone is using? I would test a rod out but I am packing up my glass to move and don't even have a torch available.

[LoriBird]

I bought 2 lbs of river rock from LB Supply a long time ago with Lemon Merigue, cool white and other colors. The rods are brown/translucent is this the same stuff everyone is using? I would test a rod out but I am packing up my glass to move and don't even have a torch available.

yes, look back at page 2..Rainygirl posted a pick of the glass w/ her beads. It's a funky brown translucent. There's a couple of different batches..a smooth one and a rough one from what I've read here.

[josielv]

i have a lots of about 3 rods left and I am skeered to use it, because I love it and when its gone... eeekkkkkkkkkk, maybe I will make myself a set or something!!!

[perlienne]

hello avocado odd lovers
I am a big fan of its effects too, these are made with the rough rods. Don't you think, that this blue seam looks soooooo dreamy over black??
"greek frame", "greek avenue" and "greek memories"
and I added a detailed view... yumm!

[Janel Dudley]

WOW Perlienne! Those are beautiful!

[earthandsky]

River Rock base, Terra under the large dots...and I have forgotten what the smaller dots are! River Rock is a *wonderful* glass!

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[CJ]

I just have to say "WOW" at all those beautiful beads made from Naos and Kevan. Also the set made by Bizle is gorgeous. I am so glad that I bought all the River Rock I could from the Store in London Ont when I heard that you coulnd't buy it anymore. I love playing with it but nothing I made is near as nice as Naos and Kevan. But it sure does give me lots of ideas. This is such a wonderful site, I learn so much from all the experts. Thanks.
CJ.

[CJ]

You're right, they aren't the same between Avocado and Avocado Odd. The regular Avocado is #591210 and the odd, called Avocado Odd, is #791931. I have both, but the 791931 is the same as what's called River Rock.

If all the suppliers would post the same #'s as the mfg. companies use to identify their glass colors, it would make it a lot easier for us to determine what we're buying instead of relying on esoteric names that each supplier wants to give them.

I have never ran into that problem, thankfully, I only deal with the one store that is near me in London On. Canada so maybe that is why I haven't. I know they use all the manufactures #s on all their rods they sell. But I will have to watch out for the if I am some where else and am thinking of buying rods etc. Thanks for pointing that out. I am fairly new to all of this.
CJ.

[perlienne]

thanks bjdud!:kiss:

[CO_Phantom]

I'm glad I got 1/4 lb when I was in California.

Now, to find out exactly how I want to use it.

That's the problem with odd lots. I want to melt them, but I want to keep a rod or two to fondle and collect dust.

Naos, your river rock and silver glass swirly bead (sorry, I don't remember the name) is gorgeous! You do fantastic work.

-Amy