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theglasszone
2008-03-23, 9:29pm
HOT HEAD BLACK NEBULA REDUCTION TUTORIAL by DeAnne Buchanan/The Glass Zone
(All material contained within this Tutorial is protected by Copyright, "The Glass Zone" DeAnne Buchanan, 2008; all rights reserved.)

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After much prompting, I’m FINALLY posting my Tutorial on how to get an excellent “reduction” flame on a Hot Head Torch. This demonstration features George Tessman’s “Black Nebula” glass, one of my all time favorites!!! Bear in mind that although a “Striking” flame is difficult if not impossible to establish on a Hot Head Torch, a “Reducing” flame, as demonstrated here, works wonders with all “Reduction” glass – Black Nebula, Iris Blue, Iris Yellow, Di Vinci, Olympia Rain, and many more!

Special thanks to my daughter, Kira, for her photography skills (without whose help this Tutorial would NEVER be), to Irene (“Reenie”) of Flame Kissed Glass (http://www.flamekissedglass.com/) and to Mr. George Tessman of GT Glassworks, for creating and producing his wonderful Black Nebula for the lampworking world! (EDIT: August 2012/"Black Nebula" is no longer available but this technique works great with lots of different and still-available glasses! If you're lucky, you may be able to find some old stock Black Nebula around. If so, grab it!)

SUPPLIES, SUGGESTIONS AND IMPORTANT CAUTIONS:

As you all know, safety while working with hot glass is of the utmost importance!!! Because this technique requires covering the intake holes of your Hot Head Torch, I’d like to make the following recommendations and suggestions for the best result under the safest circumstances:

1. Above all, use sensibility and care!!! PROPER VENTILATION IS A MUST (ESPECIALLY WHILE WORKING WITH SILVER GLASS!)

2. Even though a “reduction” flame can be achieved on a Hot Head torch using a tin foil “collar” which can be slid up the shaft of the torch (and thus covering the oxygen intake holes and yielding a “fuel rich” flame) I find this technique variable and sometimes insufficient. Therefore, for my purposes as demonstrated in this Tutorial, I utilize a Leather Welder’s Glove with Kevlar stitching which is pictured below. I find that using the “Glove” technique offers virtually complete coverage of the holes, and proffers a consistent, wonderful fuel rich flame that can’t be beat! The glove manufacturer (in this case, “Lincoln Electric”) is not as important as the flame and heat resistance. This particular glove is not intended to withstand direct contact with the flame, but is sufficient to protect your hand while covering the holes on the Hot Head for approximately 25-35 seconds at a stretch, which is more than sufficient to evoke the silver/metallic surface effect with Black Nebula and other “reduction” silver glasses.

3. I purchased these gloves from my local Home Depot, and you should be able to find them readily in your area; they can also be purchased from www.homedepot.com. (EDIT: March 2009/These gloves are sometimes seen in a Red color as opposed to the Grey that is shown. Either will be sufficient, so don't worry if they look a bit different at your local Home Depot. Just make sure they are heavy-duty, "heat resistant" and intended for welding purposes.)

4. Remember that all that is needed is ONE GLOVE, which should be for your NON-DOMINANT HAND – your dominant hand will be holding the mandrel & bead in the flame, and you will be using your other GLOVED hand to cover the Hot Head intake holes. For reference purposes, please note that I am LEFT HANDED, thus, the Glove goes on my RIGHT HAND.

5. If you use 1# MAPP or MapPro canisters with your Hot Head, be sure to start with a new, full (or nearly full) canister to insure that you have plenty of fuel to create your bead and evoke the “reduction” flame without risk of running out of fuel right before you are finished!

6. First, make sure all your supplies are within reach! I keep my glove on my lap, with the opening facing the hand that you’ll be putting it on – this way, it’s easy to just slide your hand right in there when you’re ready to do your “reduction”. All pressing, shaping, etc. should be done in advance of the “reduction”, which will be the very last step before placing the bead into the kiln or vermiculite filled crock pot.

7. So as not to lose your reduction effect, which is a “surface” treatment of your glass, I suggest annealing your bead on the lower end of the heat spectrum. I kiln anneal my beads, and set my kiln to never exceed 940 degrees throughout the entire annealing cycle.

A photo of the "Lincoln Electric" Leather, Heat Resistant, Kevlar stitched glove I use:

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READY? OK – LETS GET STARTED!!!!!

Start by heating your mandrel and winding your base bead. I am using a 5/32” mandrel, and will be winding a donut-shaped Big Hole Bead for my Pandora bracelet.

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After winding your basic bead, this is the point where you want to press or otherwise shape your bead. I’m using a couple of graphite marvers (one right in the flame) and one flat on my work bench just to even up the bead’s donut shape.

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You might see a bit of “luster” appear on the glass at this point, but this is NOTHING compared to what can be achieved.

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NOW FOR THE FUN PART! Slide your NON-DOMINANT hand into your glove; be sure to keep your bead warm at the back of the flame so you don’t have any cracking issues.

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CAREFULLY use your glove to cover ONLY THE INTAKE HOLES ON THE HOT HEAD. This will cause the customary Hot Head “noise” to reduce considerably from the lack of oxygen, and the resulting flame will be a wonderful, bushy PURE FUEL flame. (Notice how ALL the holes are covered by the glove, all the way around!) BE SURE TO BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO SLIDE YOUR GLOVED HAND ANY FURTHER TOWARD THE FLAME THAN JUST WHERE THE HOLES ARE LOCATED.

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Bring your bead into the mid-range of this flame, and quickly roll it around to hit all sides of the bead. You will IMMEDIATELY SEE the Silver “bloom” on the surface of the glass!!! Gorgeous! Keep in mind that a very quick exposure to the Reduction Flame will cause a metallic iridescent coating on the surface of the glass; the longer you expose the bead to the Reduction Flame, the lighter color (peacock blue) the surface will turn. If you over reduce, simply remove your glove from the intakes, put the bead back into a neutral flame (turns the glass back to basic black) and try again. I prefer a very quick exposure, which is what I’ve done with the bead demonstrated.

REMEMBER that you will begin to feel the heat through the glove within about 20-30 seconds, and if your hand starts getting hot, remove your gloved hand from the Hot Head (you can keep the glove on, unless of course, it’s on FIRE – just kidding!), give it a moment to cool down, and then repeat the process if necessary.

Once you’ve achieved the look you want, slowly cool the bead in the very back of the neutral flame, being sure not to bring it into full flame or you will lose your reduction effect. At this point, pop it into your kiln or after a couple of moments of slow flame annealing (remember, back of the flame only), push it down into your vermiculite and allow it to cool down slowly.

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Here’s a shot of how the glove looks covering the holes completely (this is how you want to cover the holes – only with the torch ON):

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Here’s a few shots of how the finished bead looks (NOTE: These were super "quickie" shots my daughter took indoors - although it looks like just a "patch" of the bead is super mirror shiny, in actuality, the entire bead is this reflective):

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NOW GO GET YOUR BLACK NEBULA AND FLAME ON!!! I hope you enjoyed this tutorial; I would love feedback and input, and will be happy to try and answer any questions or concerns you might have. If you are so inclined, I’d LOVE you to post your beads here, too!!!

Hugs from CA,
DeAnne/theglasszone


All rights reserved; this Tutorial may not be transmitted or duplicated, in part or whole, without the permission of the author.

Kevan
2008-03-23, 9:34pm
ooooo...excellente'!

theglasszone
2008-03-23, 9:40pm
Thank you, Kevan! Coming from you, it means so much to me!!! :) It was really fun to do this with my daughter's help, too!

DeAnne in CA

Reenie
2008-03-23, 9:41pm
Very Cool DeAnne!!!
I think you did a great job explaining and kudos to Kira for the great shots!
I think we need to tell your husband to make you a bigger studio;-)
Irene
PS Love the nails!

theglasszone
2008-03-23, 9:44pm
All for you...thanks for encouraging me to finally get it done!!! ;)

DeAnne in CA

BeadTowne
2008-03-23, 10:50pm
Woo Hoo! That is some reaction my dear!

Can't wait to get my hands on a glove so I can give it a go.

Thanks for sharing.

theglasszone
2008-03-23, 11:00pm
I reached my "maximum" attachable photos in the tutorial, but here's another (sorry, a bit fuzzy) shot of the finished bead - shows that the super shiny, mirror finish goes all the way round the bead:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Reduction%20Tutorial/DSC01544.jpg

See (kind of)? You'll get it, I'm SURE!

DeAnne in CA

Reenie
2008-03-23, 11:58pm
DeAnne,
Do you ever encase the bead? Does it lose the luster when you do?
I haven't tried yet as you can tell.
Irene

theglasszone
2008-03-24, 12:14am
DeAnne,
Do you ever encase the bead? Does it lose the luster when you do?
I haven't tried yet as you can tell.
Irene

Reenie:

I've not tried encasing it...I've found that as soon as I get the bead "hot" again - at least I would think hot enough or close enough to the flame to encase without it cracking, it reverts to it's original simple black form. I did make a really cute Big Hole Bead with tiny raised Beatles on it - and used the Nebula for just the wings - came out really cute (I'll have to post a pic.) but I'm not sure encasing would work so well - at least not on my torch.

If you are successful, though, let us know!

DeAnne in CA

lorleek
2008-03-24, 4:04am
Great tut DeAnne - I am excited to try it. I haven't been able to get much from Black Nebula on my hothead. Thank you!
Lori

glassymom
2008-03-24, 12:29pm
Thanks deAnne! Excellent Tutorial. I have a home depot right next door.........BUT, no black Nebula LOL
Very pretty bead!!
Sue

PaulaD
2008-03-24, 2:12pm
Wow Deanne! What a great Tutorial! I've been finding lots of reactions with Nebula and Lauscha Glass lately! I'll post when I am done experimenting! Paula

PaulaD
2008-03-24, 2:22pm
I have a queston. Oh never mind. I just reread it slower this time!! ..Paula

theglasszone
2008-03-24, 2:56pm
Hey Paula~

Couldn't help but wonder what your question was, but if it's answered, that's great! I have a question for you!

How well do the Lau colors/clear "play" together, since I know the Lau Clear has been known to have cracking issues with all the "silver" glasses...

And thank you for your nice compliment on my Tut!

DeAnne in CA

theglasszone
2008-03-24, 2:59pm
There's also this link for Black Nebula postings, if you're working on something other than a Hot Head:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66595

Not that your stuff isn't welcome here, but I'm hoping to get those who are working on a HH and have a good experience to keep this (and the other!) thread alive!

Thanks again,
DeAnne in CA

PaulaD
2008-03-24, 3:03pm
Oh it was just about the holes..
I don't know much about cracking issues because I haven't had any with my batch. At least not with the few test beads that I did. I think you might be reffering to Moretti plus Silver plus Laushca clear?? There's lots of info in the tech forum though several posts from Carol Anne in Lauscha who mixes them all the time without cracking. She did suggest annealing at higher temps and ramping down slowly. That's about all I know. Most of my free time is packing and shipping now a days and not testing!
Paula

PaulaD
2008-03-24, 3:07pm
There's also this link for Black Nebula postings, if you're working on something other than a Hot Head:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66595

Not that your stuff isn't welcome here, but I'm hoping to get those who are working on a HH and have a good experience to keep this (and the other!) thread alive!

Thanks again,
DeAnne in CA

Oh I'm supposed to teach a class on Hotheads and I've actually never really used one so this IS a thread I want to read. If you were referring to me. Thanks.
Paula

Howie
2008-03-24, 3:39pm
Great tutorial!

I just started using a Hot Head and it's amazing how many different types of reactions and changes that can be done. And I always thought glass is glass is glass!!

The Black Nebula will definitely be something I'll have to look for.

theglasszone
2008-03-24, 3:39pm
Oh I'm supposed to teach a class on Hotheads and I've actually never really used one so this IS a thread I want to read. If you were referring to me. Thanks.
Paula

Well, Paula - there is one in Garage Sale right now...you might want to go grab it and give it a go BEFORE you teach the class!!!! (Giggle!)

Good luck with that!!!!
DeAnne in CA

rusticstudio
2008-03-24, 4:01pm
Great tut!

You can cover the holes on your HH with foil, too, if you don't have a glove. Just fit a double or triple thickness of the foil around the holes with the torch off, then slide it down so the holes are clear. Then when you're torching and need to reduce, just slide the foil up over the holes.

The HH works GREAT with this glass.

ziggys
2008-03-24, 4:09pm
Great detailed Tutorial DeAnne. I don't use a HH now but it still helps me to see how the reduction should end up looking, how to get there and what to do once you got it!
Did you miss anything? LOL! Nope. :)

theglasszone
2008-03-24, 4:55pm
Great detailed Tutorial DeAnne. I don't use a HH now but it still helps me to see how the reduction should end up looking, how to get there and what to do once you got it! Did you miss anything? LOL! Nope. :)

Hi Ziggy! Ya know, I believe you can do this same thing with your "big girl" torch - just skip the "glove" factor, and after making and shaping your bead, turn down the oxy and up the fuel...do the "wavy" thing, and then don't put it back into a neutral flame except way out there to flame anneal before sticking it into the kiln!

Thanks - everyone - for your nice compliments! I'm so glad I finally did this!!! It took all of about 5 minutes to actually snap off the pics.; the long part was writing the darn thing up to make sense! Glad it actually does!!! :)

DeAnne in CA

theglasszone
2008-03-24, 4:59pm
Great tut!

You can cover the holes on your HH with foil, too, if you don't have a glove. Just fit a double or triple thickness of the foil around the holes with the torch off, then slide it down so the holes are clear. Then when you're torching and need to reduce, just slide the foil up over the holes.

The HH works GREAT with this glass.

Hi Patty!

Thanks for your input...I've done the "foil" thing, too - but I find that with the glove, there is so little fiddling and since the glove covers the holes so superbly, theres absolutely NO oxy and no variables! Maybe I just didn't have my foil collar quite right, but it seemed that it worked pretty well MOST of the time - the glove works every time, consistently, without doubt!

They aren't very expensive - if you decide you want to try it, I'd love to hear your assessment/comparative of the two!

DeAnne in CA

theglasszone
2008-03-26, 5:39pm
Hi Everyone!

Just wanted to post a quick picture of how the demonstrated Black Nebula bead turned out after annealing and cleaning:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Reduction%20Tutorial/BlackNebulaBHB1.jpg

Also, here's a photo of what the Green Envy does, treated the same way as described in my Tutorial - one with heavy Reduction (about 25 seconds in the "bushy" flame) and one with very quick, light Reduction (about 10 seconds):

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Reduction%20Tutorial/GreenEnvyBHB1.jpg

The one on the LEFT is the light Reduction treatment!

Thanks again to everyone for their nice comments!

DeAnne in CA

cherylsart
2008-03-29, 6:29pm
Ugh, so I have to invest in kevlar gloves to do this. More stuff to buy! And it's not dangerous to cut off the oxygen to the torch? I'd hate for there to be some kind of back flow that makes the bbq tank explode!

Cheryl

ETA: but your tutorial is awesome, thanks so much for posting it!

theglasszone
2008-03-29, 7:45pm
Hi Cheryl!

Well, I'm using the MAPP cannisters - not pure Prop from a BBQ tank, and no hose...don't know what cautions or repercussions might occur from deviation from my application here - but for heaven's sake, be careful! Since my tutorial and the "effect" you can get with the reduction flame (using a glove) only takes a few seconds, I would think that there shouldn't be any problems for anyone else using the "prescribed" method here. I would think that if you held the Hot Head long enough to cause any kind of flashback, you'd probably really be feeling the heat through the glove by then - not recommended! This method is used to create potent, short "burst" of reduction flame. In addition, these gloves I use are not PURE kevlar, they are leather gloves that have kevlar stitching and are heat "resistant" only. No sticking your hands in the flame - OK? If you have a Home Depot near you, these particular gloves aren't terribly expensive at all.

Hope that helps answer your concerns :)

DeAnne in CA

cherylsart
2008-03-29, 10:21pm
Ok, so I don't have to use the glove over the holes for very long. I do have a Home Depot near me. I'll check it out.

Thanks again!

Cheryl

Vangy
2008-03-30, 9:12am
I ordered Black Nebula last week and am impatiently waiting for it to arrive so I can try this!

Chau Nguyen T
2008-03-30, 10:28am
Thank you very much for the tuts DeAnne.
When i tried to reduce on HH i kept the beads at the farther end of the flame and the results were not very satisfied.
I guess with your glove i can reduce any kind of silver, correct?
Since my DH closed up my workplace i have to put most my glass away. He promises after the remodelling done i'll have my own place to play with torch again.
I'm going to dig them out and try one more time. Thanks.

theglasszone
2008-03-30, 10:29am
Thank you, Vangy! I hope it arrives soon...I would love to see what you do with it to!!!!

PLEASE POST PICTURES, EVERYONE!!! :)

DeAnne in CA

Dragoneyes
2008-03-31, 11:36am
Hi DeAnne, great tut and the pictures your daughter took excellent. However, I would like to caution you about using silver glass without adequate ventilation. The fumes off of silver glass are toxic and can cause serious lung problems. Just a thought.

theglasszone
2008-03-31, 1:57pm
Thanks, Steve! My "official" ventilation system will be installed in two weeks; right now, I have all doors open and a fan that is placed behind me (not visible in photos) - I'VE ADDED AN IMPORTANT CAUTION IN MY ORIGINAL TUTORIAL - So everybody, be sure that you have proper ventilation, especially while working with the Silver Glasses!

DeAnne in CA

Verre Manie
2008-04-10, 2:04pm
As a newbie - I can't tell you how wonderful it is that you all share so much of your hard earned knowledge.

I love you guys!!! (blubber, blush and gush)

Thank you thank you

tt4st
2008-04-10, 4:07pm
Gorgeous beads DeAnne! I am motivated to go try my secret stash after seeing how shiny and metallic yours came out.

tassiebeads
2008-04-10, 4:39pm
Fantastic tutorial, DeAnne, thanks for that. I've been using a hothead for tourist demos and really didn't like it - until seeing your beads. Now must dig out the Black Nebula and give that a go.

thanks again!
Mary

Verre Manie
2008-04-17, 2:44pm
Wonderful tutorial!! Thank you so much.

I do have one question: where did you get the wooden table set up that holds your hh and arm rest? I would love to get one of those.

theglasszone
2008-04-17, 9:50pm
Wonderful tutorial!! Thank you so much.

I do have one question: where did you get the wooden table set up that holds your hh and arm rest? I would love to get one of those.

Hi There! Thanks for the nice compliments! If the "desk" is what you're talking about, it's actually a Potter's Table, and I found it at my local "Sam's Club" for about $120.00 - I just love it! It's an "occasional/seasonal" item there - but Spring is definitely the time to look!

I checked Sam's Club online, but didn't find it :(

Here's another table that is similar, but kind of pricey:
http://www.pottingbenches.com/potting-benches/wood-potting-benches/windsorpottingbench.cfm

Then there's this one - on eBay...very similar to mine and well priced...it would be really great if you could skip the ship charge and pick it up:
http://cgi.ebay.com/gardening-wooden-wood-potters-bench-lattice-planter-box_W0QQitemZ230243552214QQihZ013QQcategoryZ29514Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I suggest you check the garden stores and discount/bulk shops in your area...now that you know what it's called (search "Potter's Bench" and "Potter's Table") you'll probably have no trouble finding just what works best for you!

DeAnne in CA

katiegirl
2008-09-29, 1:30pm
Thanks so much for this i am pretty new (well had my Hot Head and gear for 2 1/2 years but two young kids and full time work are taxing on my torch time.) and just bought some Pschye and couldn't make it do anything cool...

p.s. this is my very first post on this site.

theglasszone
2008-09-29, 1:41pm
Good luck with it, Katie Girl!!! I think Psyche should work well for you...there are some "easier" of the Silver Glasses when reducing on a Hot Head - Psyche and Black Neb being two of them!

Let us know how you do! I've found the "Map PRO" to be a much better substitute for the MAPP gas over the Propane - at least for me - when this technique is used!

DeAnne in CA

ladymeme123
2008-09-29, 2:12pm
DeAnne, I loved your tut. I am new on the hh and the tut was easy to understand, and hats off to your daughter for the lovely pics. Again good job and thanks.

Michelle

theglasszone
2008-11-05, 10:57am
Just for fun, I thought I'd add that this method works very well with the Precision 104 Black Pearl glass as well...

Look at this little cutie:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/BlkPrlAlien1.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/LB%20Test%20Precision/BlkPrlAlien3.jpg

De

melabe
2008-11-22, 8:20am
I was admiring you studio setup. I also noted your stress on good ventilation. Is that little tube thing to the left of your set up the ventilation thing? what do you reccommend for small space and budget.
Thanks

theglasszone
2008-11-22, 11:27pm
Aw, thanks for the compliments - my "space" has changed a bit! The "tube" thingie you see in these older pics. is a "rod warmer" (actually a curling iron warmer available at beauty supply stores, like Sally's and also on eBay - check "Gold N Rod Warmer" I this is the right search...). I have since installed an overhead ventilation such as would go over a range, which was bought at Home Depot - it could be a better "draw" with a more powerful fan, but it's better than nothing for the time being. Sorry I don't have current pictures, but if you search on here, probably in the "Safety" section under "ventilation" I'm sure you'll find a lot more info.!

Good luck to you - PM me if you think I can help with anything else... :)

DeAnne in CA

melabe
2008-11-23, 7:39am
A curling iron warmer, how funny for me, how clever for you. Ha. Dang I don't want a venta hood.... I will go to the safety section. Thanks so much

theglasszone
2008-11-23, 10:52am
Mel...

Be sure to check "Studio" too - it probably has even better ventilation help and advice; sorry about that, it was late when I posted ;) :

Check here:
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37

De

BugNerd
2008-11-23, 11:03am
Also very important to have lots of Propel, you don't want to get dehydrated :P

melabe
2008-11-23, 11:15am
I have looked thru part of the safety posts with little luck. I have to have things spelled out in simple color by the number instructions, LOL. I looked up Mike Auraleus' site but too technical for me. So sad. I''ll try studio as well. i need some of the same type of instructions to get my kiln going. I can't figure it out from the booklet that came with it.
I have had it for several months but whenever I try to figure it out....my eyes glaze over and I give up!

theglasszone
2008-11-23, 12:56pm
What type of kiln do you have? There are so many, it would help to know what 'cha got! Chances are that someone here has the same type you have and can give you step-by-step guidance. If it's any help, I have a Paragon SC2BD, the small one with the bead door. If you have a digital controller, this video on You Tube might help you to glean the basics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyJc0tiwi1Y

I have the full instruction booklet which tells how to modify and personalize a program to ramp up, hold (for a duration of your choice) ramp down in stages and hold before shutting off to slowly cool.

I suggest maybe putting a posting in the "Tips, Techniques and Questions" Section here on LE (separate threads for each topic so you can keep replies all straight!) such as:

"Need Help Programing (insert name of kiln here)" and
"Need Help Setting Up Sm. Studio Ventilation"

Hope this can get you more answers and guidance!

DeAnne

melabe
2008-11-23, 6:10pm
wow you have been so sweet. i will follow your advise. I have a jen ken kiln with a bead door. it can take 6 programs I think.

*Naos*
2008-11-25, 4:47pm
I tried this with Triton and WOW - thanks so much Deanne! :)

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/20624111/344669881.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL248/1116383/20624111/344669948.jpg

theglasszone
2008-11-26, 11:02am
More than wow, Amber - WOW, WOW, WOW!!! Just gorgeous!!! I'm so impressed! I have a 1/4 lb. of Triton and haven't tried it yet - now I absolutely MUST!!!

Theses are just beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!

DeAnne in CA

Reenie
2008-11-26, 11:22am
Amber...Those beads Rock!!!! I love the colors you got out of those. They look so primitive:-)

*Naos*
2008-11-26, 11:27am
Thanks so much! :D

GarlandGlass
2009-05-09, 1:36pm
I've been lampworking since 2002 long before the new silver glasses came out. All we had were the blowers colors like Reichenbach and Kugler that reduced. I've always just turned up the Hot Head flame and dipped the bead down into the blue flame for a couple of seconds. The Hot Head is already a slightly reducing flame. This method works just fine with the blowers colors. I've not had much time to try the new silver glasses.

DeAnne have you ever tried this method? If so, does covering the holes produce a superior reduction on the TAG, DH or Precision? I'd love to know if in your experience you've found that your method is better than the other.

Thanks a bunch,
Tamara

theglasszone
2009-05-10, 5:28pm
Tamara~

No, I've not tried your method - and since the disappearance of MAPP and the introduction of MapPro in it's place, I'm not sure how well this would work. Personally, I've found the MapPro product to be far less consistent in terms of "clean burn" and have had some down right dirty sessions depending on the canister of MapPro. I found, interestingly, if I take the white cap off the MapPro prior to purchasing and check to see that there is no "rust" or other ugly residue on the screw portion of the can, I have better luck finding clean burning MapPro. The ones that look kind of cruddy there seem to really give me fits!!! :(

Since I seem to soot up anything with the flame turned up HIGH, no matter how careful I am, when I crank the Hot Head to a high flame, I'd hesitate to even bother trying since I'm so used to using the glove by now. I would figure the higher the flame is turned, for my poor old Hot Head at least, it wouldn't matter where in the flame I flashed the bead - it would get all sooty and nasty.

If you've had success with your "high flame" technique still, though, maybe you'd give the glove a try (which doesn't require the flame to be cranked up) and see how the results compare and if you end up, in the long run, not burning through the gas quite as fast as you would turning it on full blast.

Keep up posted please!

De

MerryFool
2009-05-10, 7:54pm
Gorgeous beads, Amber! The gold almost makes me think of "Aurae"

Now I'm inspired to try out some of my reduction glasses once I've got my studio back up and running De...thanks! :D

theglasszone
2009-07-15, 1:12pm
Aw, thanks Cindy for resurrecting it :) I hope you find it helpful...

De

sansan239s
2009-07-20, 8:50pm
OMG DeAnne.... I just saw this tutorial. Wow, cool tutorial and I can't wait to get my Hot Head so I can start making beads and maybe someday be able to apply this technique. Plus, I love the little Hobgoblin in your photos....can't wait to purchase more from you........=D>=D>=D>

theglasszone
2009-07-20, 11:34pm
Thanks Sandy! This was originally posted some time ago - but tried and true - it's effective on many of the Silver Glasses, even some of the newer ones! :)

Can't wait for you to get started - you're gonna love melting glass!

De

cherylsart
2009-07-24, 1:09pm
Thanks for this tutorial! I'm going to give it a try when I have a chance (and get some Black Nebula).

glassbead
2009-07-26, 6:00am
DeAnne, very nice tut. I'm also a hothead user, so all info is highly appreciated. I'm so bad- I use an old hand towel to cover my torch holes- don't try this at home!
Here's an old forum that discusses some of the Lauscha issues. It's about viscosity, which seems to be the issue with some of the 104 coe glasses not playing well together. I didn't realize just how old it was til I went looking for it. http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62346

meganlee
2011-08-02, 6:35am
Hi DeAnne! This tutorial is great and I tried to follow very closely last night, but I have a problem I am hoping you (or any other lampworkers!) can shed some light on. First off, definitely a lampworking newbie, but I jumped in head first after my initial lessons and set up a home studio. I am working on a HH and trying to use light iris gold frit over a dark red color. So, the bead I made last night came out of the kiln with the frit looking more metallic black than gold, frankly it hardly looks gold at all! I was wondering if this result would suggest I over or under reduced the glass? I kept it in the "reducing flame" (acheived per your tutorial) for about 20 seconds. Any advice would be wonderful and so much appreciated!!

theglasszone
2011-08-02, 7:44am
Hi Megan!

Wow, a resurrection of this thread! :lol: Thank you...

On your Iris Gold issue, I've found that it takes barely a blush of reduction heat to make that glass turn the "golden" color...much longer than a few seconds and yes, you're color will heavily reduce and turn to that metallic black. So I say try again, and this time just very lightly waive the bead in the reduction flame once you have the IG applied; then when you see the light reduction occur, STOP and stick it in the kiln! :)

Hope you'll show how it came out too...

De

AidensFlame
2011-08-03, 11:40pm
Hi De,
I actually have a question too. I tried your tut a few nights ago and my Kronos didn't strike. My nephew was using the glove for me until he couldn't stand the heat. Does the type of fuel matter? I've been using propane canisters.

meganlee
2011-08-10, 5:33am
Hi Megan!

Wow, a resurrection of this thread! :lol: Thank you...

On your Iris Gold issue, I've found that it takes barely a blush of reduction heat to make that glass turn the "golden" color...much longer than a few seconds and yes, you're color will heavily reduce and turn to that metallic black. So I say try again, and this time just very lightly waive the bead in the reduction flame once you have the IG applied; then when you see the light reduction occur, STOP and stick it in the kiln! :)

Hope you'll show how it came out too...

De
Thank you so much!! Can't wait to try it tonight :) :) So glad to bring the thread back to life after a couple of years!! I will report back, hopefully with some success!!

meganlee
2011-08-12, 8:33am
De,

I tried the 2-3 second blush in the reduction flame and still got the metallic black finish. I am thinking that maybe while I am melting the frit into the bead to get a round surface I am also reducing, even though I am not covering the intake holes? Is there a certain place in the flame I should round out my bead before covering the holes to avoid this? Or maybe that's not the problem at all? Again any of your expert insight is much appreciated!! Thanks so much!!

theglasszone
2012-03-15, 10:14pm
Oh my gosh! I'm so sorry it's taken me months and months to see both AidensFlame and Megan's most recent postings :( Dang it, I wish you guys would have shot me a PM! If I don't see the thread and reply within a couple days, could you please give me a doink on the noggin!?! :lol: You have my permission!!!

Anyway, Megan, I believe there may be a slight reduction occurring in the regular Hot Head flame even when the holes aren't covered, so not sure how to advise you on avoiding it, but I would think it wouldn't really be enough to cause problems. I would try different areas of the flame of your particular torch and see if you can get enough heat to round out your bead and then try reducing again. Am I understanding you correctly in that the result is a black coloring of the iris gold glass, and it has a metallic sheen? Hum...not sure about this! Or how to advise you!

And AidensGlass, on the Kronos question - it may be Kronos is a "striker" rather than a reduction glass. Just so you know, you will have problems "striking" any glass with a Hot Head do to the fact that Hot Heads just don't give off enough concentrated heat to strike!!! The method in this Tutorial is for "reduction" glass only. I will have to go check and see if Kronos is a striker or a reducer...

Since it's been some time since both of these questions were posted, I'm wondering - do you two have updates? Have either of you been able to resolve your questions?

Please let me know...

De

theglasszone
2012-08-22, 8:16pm
Giving this old Tutorial a bit of a *BUMP* by posting a cool set I made a while ago with Psyche using this same technique. Of course it features "skulls" (:lol:) but I wanted to show what great colors you can get....

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Bead%20Photos/Psyche%20Skull%20Stuff/PsySkull1.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Bead%20Photos/Psyche%20Skull%20Stuff/PsySkull7.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x280/theglasszone/Bead%20Photos/Psyche%20Skull%20Stuff/PsySkull4.jpg

:cool:

Cherri
2012-08-23, 5:07am
Thanks De for the tutorial. I have to go find gloves and get some glass.

Naos pictures are gone darn it. I was anxious to see the yellow.

Thanks, I hope more folks will chime in with photos.

De the skulls are very cool.. love the color..

Cher

jdleigh
2016-02-05, 4:53pm
DeAnn, I printed out your WONDERFUL tutorial quite a few years back, and I think that it is absolutely required reading for HotHead users. I have finally bought a Carlisle Mini CC, but I am still trying to find a used, rebuilt Oxygen Concentrator. My fascination with the "silvery, metallic look" on glass started with you. You are one of my 'heroes' in the glass world to this very day!
Smiles, jdleigh in Sarasota