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Help!!!!! I've got 1lb of it and can't do a thing with it. I have tried all the colours that are supposed to react and nothing - ivory, silvered ivory, mosaic green, turquoise, rubino and not a thing. No black line, no colour change, no striking, no reduction.
What am I doing wrong???
Jenn
I so don't want to hear this, I have a package en route to me with this glass. Obviously I have not tried it yet, but what comes to mind, after having worked with several Double Helix colors, is, are you working it hot enough? Many of the colors that are saturated with silver need to be worked very hot before striking or reducing.
fcfmountain
2008-04-02, 9:27am
Alex,the Buckhorn is Lausha glass,you are probably thinking of the DH Honey. I've got some Buckhorn also and not had the time to play so I'll be checking back here for tips also,TIM
I don't think the Buckhorn is a striking glass like DH and R4 glasses.
Alex,the Buckhorn is Lausha glass,you are probably thinking of the DH Honey. I've got some Buckhorn also and not had the time to play so I'll be checking back here for tips also,TIM
Yes, I know that, I should have made that clear in my post. I was just comparing it to silver saturated glass in general.
Can't wait to hear what experiences other people have had with this glass.
AKDesigns
2008-04-02, 10:21am
I have the glass and it really doesn't do much of anything. It's a pretty, super light cocoa/taupe color....and that's about it.
I have the glass and it really doesn't do much of anything. It's a pretty, super light cocoa/taupe color....and that's about it.
Oh, crud! I should have known it, Lauscha silvered colors haven't done anything for me in the past. I liked the regular Buckhorn so much that I thought I'd take a chance on it. ](*,)
I'll try and keep an open mind about it and hope I can do something with it. On the bright side, it isn't horribly expensive and I love organic colors, so it will not be a total waste even if it turns out that is doesn't do anything special.
PaulaD
2008-04-02, 10:42am
Here's what I posted in the sale rack to Effie's question.
" Put a layer of silver leaf on it and then reduce it. I got peacock colors.
I also had a lot of silver colors leave rings on it. One that I can think of off the top of my head that did it is Black Nebula. Carol Anne said something about rubino on it too..."
This is not a heavily saturated silver color like the Double Helix, Trautman, GTT, or Precision colors. It's a color with silver in it. It starts as dark brown and lightens up as it's struck. You can strike all or it or part of it. You can also reduce it right on top of some fuzzy cones. For me reducing it that way made it very organic. You can also get it organic by silver fuming it. Alex, both Vanilla Ice (white with Silver) and Buckhorn with Silver need to be worked right on top of real fuzzy cones for organic effects but they are there. Also try dotting your heavy silver colors on and then reducing the fuzzy cone way... You should get organic rings.
Some artists bought lots and lots of this because they had wonderful luck with it so maybe they will chime in too...
Paula
PaulaD
2008-04-02, 10:44am
p.s. If you are getting nothing you may not be working hot enough as Alex mentioned.
Paula
Thanks Paula for chiming in. Now I can't wait to get my hands on it. It's always an adventure when working with a new color.
fcfmountain
2008-04-02, 4:18pm
You bet Paula,I'll try some this weekend and see what happens,thanks for taking the time to post this,TIM
I'll try to add some photos if I can get my orders done at a reasonable hour..
Thanks Tim and Alex..
Paula
AKDesigns
2008-04-02, 5:19pm
Well sure you can fume it with silver glass and add silver to it but you can do that with just about any glass and get something interesting. Since this has silver in it you would expect it to be interesting all on it's own and react with ivory. Anyway, I'll try frying it and see what happens.
I dunno..I've added silver to some colors and got mud...I've only been able to make a few beads from it myself and didn't try the ivory yet..
Paula
I'm looking at a test bead that I did and all of these things look ok on it...SIS, psyche dots (left rings) , kronos, khaos, and Terranova (also left rings.)
But the bead itself is too ugly to show anyone..
Paula
LOL, that's funny! Thanks the laugh, it reminds me of all the fuglies I've made over the years and showed to no one.
hehe. This bead will probably go into the Can of beads for the Dementia Home in town. They are always happy to get them! ;)
Paula
AKDesigns
2008-04-02, 7:15pm
Well I fried the crap out of it and nothing. I put ivory on it and nothing. Then I fried the crap out of it again and nothing. If there is silver in it, it should do something to ivory.
I put it ontop of ivory and it reacted with the ivory. It was with Terra though so I'll do another bead and make sure it was the buckthorn that caused the reaction.
Amy were you working on fuzzy cones and right on top of the cones?
Paula
AKDesigns
2008-04-02, 7:24pm
Amy were you working on fuzzy cones and right on top of the cones?
Paula
You mean a reducing flame? No I didn't. I can try that too next time I get to the torch.
If you got Vanilla Ice to work then this should work the same way.
It took me awhile to figure out that it needed to be done right on top of the fuzzy cones because the way I learned to reduce was with the oxygen all the way off....Paula
carolanne
2008-04-03, 2:08am
Heya - sorry I have been absent... 3 jobs and counting, trying to make ends meet... or at least keep the ends in touch with each other so that when they finally meet again, they don't forget each other. :-)
Okey dokey - Buckhorn with silver has lots of silver in it. It makes it lovely to coat it in silver foil, a single layer and then lightly reduce it.
If you draw on the bead with any other silver glass, and then roll it in silver or roll it in silver first and then draw on it with silver stringer, and then lightly reduce it, it's absolutely beautiful. It does not need to be cooked or worked extra hot or anything special or extraordinary. Just a reducing flame, with the yellow part about 1.5 inches long, and a blue tip about 1.5 inches out from that - hold the bead rotating in the edge of the blue part of the flame and see the beautiful shine very quickly develop - so, just outside the yellow part of the flame, at the beginning of the blue part, and just let the very beginning of the blue part of the light reducing flame lick the bead as you waft it in and out... You might have to switch hands.
When you draw on it with rubino oro and do the same, you will get gold scrolling where the rubino is. It's absolutely beautiful. If your rubino goes grey, it means that you were doing this whole process too hot.
You can also use a blob of this colour to fume OTHER beads with silver, with excellent effects. It has plenty of silver in it.
Don't know what more I can say - it's a very successful colour for me and I have actually bought some, I like it so much, so that I have a stash of my very own, and not just a few test rods.
It's easy to make it sing once you know that it's just light reducing and where to hold it in the flame. I got it just from trial and error, but I don't want you guys to waste your glass.
xoxo, Carol Anne
Hi Carol Anne. Thanks for stopping in and thanks to who ever emailed you about the thread! I haven't had much time to work it myself! I hope you win the lotto some day so that you can get those ends to meet!
So there you have it folks. From the mouth of the tester herself in Lauscha...
Paula
I just got mine today, I'll be playing with it tomorrow, pictures soon.
Carolyn M
2008-04-09, 5:38am
I have used this glass as a base for my silver colours, wrapped in silver and reduced as well. It is remarkable unimpressive, in no way as reactive as the ASK silver browns.
AKDesigns
2008-04-09, 10:33am
I have used this glass as a base for my silver colours, wrapped in silver and reduced as well. It is remarkable unimpressive, in no way as reactive as the ASK silver browns.
That's what I'm sayin' too. I really don't think it's reactive at all on it's own with Ivory. What's the point if you have to use silver leaf or foil or some other silver glass with it?
I don't think Lauscha was trying to mimic the ASK browns with this glass. They had a successful color already in Buckhorn and decided to add silver to it. And that's all. The official factory name is "Buckhorn With Silver." Some people really like it but they have decided not to show at this time. The same thing happened with Vanilla Ice (called "White with Silver" by the factory). Some people loved it and some never got anything out of it at all. That wasn't meant to be an ASK type of glass either.
Of course I don't really know anything about what goes on there. I just grab glass when I can get it.
Paula
Here's what I got with Buckhorn With Silver. The top bead is BWS with Kronos dots. I got a little bit of striking to a pinkish color and black halos around Kronos. The bottom bead I tortured to death by wrapping it in silver foil and adding Kronos stringer then heating it to death. I'm not impressed with either bead.
lldesigns
2008-04-10, 12:10pm
If you get past the 'expecting it to do something it was never meant to do thing,' it's a nice color. I've played with it a little bit and can get deep caramel to pale beige. It makes a nice neutral base color that doesn't seem to react too much with the colors you use with it.
MaryBeth
2008-04-10, 12:15pm
If you get past the 'expecting it to do something it was never meant to do thing,' it's a nice color. I've played with it a little bit and can get deep caramel to pale beige. It makes a nice neutral base color that doesn't seem to react too much with the colors you use with it.
This is why I purchased it. I love the nuclear brownie color that was a COTM color for a particular design I am working on. I have some old buckhorn but it was a tad lighter than the NB. The buckhorn with silver seems like it can be worked to just the shade that I want. I suspect that NB was an odd lot of the Buckhorn with Silver. This particular color seems to be lacking in the 104 line of other manufacturers. I've tried the CIM beige colors but I really didn't like them.
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