Programming My First Jen Ken Kiln

[GlassaFrass*Studios]

My new Jen Ken AF3P with Bartlett Digital Control will be here in a few days. I will be using Morretti Glass...Does anyone know an easy tutorial for setting my program schedule and tips on the annealing process? I am clueless...I have only been beading for a month and never owned a kiln in my life!:-&

[doesdoes]

Same here :cry:

Jenny

[GlassaFrass*Studios]

bumpity--bump....

[BeadinMarie]

ohh me to! Mine arrives Friday! :) Hope to turn it on before Christmas! hehehe Hope it comes with good instructions! :)

[GlassaFrass*Studios]

Well...I guess nobody likes us! I guess we try and read the book it comes with that I have heard in written in Chinese?? LOL

[doesdoes]

Got it!!! I have been checking the net, reading a few lampwork books and talked to someone who knows :D stuff and I've got a program. It is not in fahrenheit but in Celsius. So if you know how to convert it, here it is: you go to 510 C you hold it there for as long as you are working, when you put your last bead in, you hold it for 25 min. (for beads of about 1cm), than you let your kiln go to 450 C in about 22 min. you hold it there for about 10 min. Some people turn off there kiln, but I then go to 200C in 120 min. and then you're beads are done. For batch annealing you go to 510C in 5 hours, hold for 45 min and then go to 350C in 5 hours. Hope this is helpfull for you all. Good luck and keep beading :biggrin:

Jenny

[doesdoes]

My hubby just came in and he converted it for me, so here it is: 510C is 950F - 450C is 842F - 200C is 392F and 350C is 662F.

Jenny

"The only thing constant in life is change."

-F. de la Rochefoucauld-

[Melodie]

I had posted this awhile back. I think it had to do with programming for annealing Moretti beads using a Bartlett 3 key controller. I didn't read all the way back through it so if something doesn't look right just let me know.


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Plug the kiln in and turn on the switch.

If it reads ERR P then simply press the up arrow to bring you to Idle.

Once you see idle then press enter to continue:

1. Choose a program number. This program will be remembered so you will not have to put this in more then once unless you change it. You can select program 1,2,3 or4 by using the up or down buttons. Let’s just say you choose Program 1 since this will be your most used program. Select USr1 and then press enter.

2. You can now program up to 8 segments but we are only going to use 3 segments. Each segment asks for three pieces of information before entering the next segment. They are, in order:

a. Ramp - How fast do you want your kiln to ramp. This basically means how fast should it heat up or cool down. The symbol for ramp is rAx, x being which ever ramp you are currently programming.

b. Hold Temp – What temperature do you want your kiln to stay at during this segment. The symbol for Temp is °Fx, x being which ever segment you are currently programming.

c. Hold Time – How long do you want the segment to stay at the Hold Temp. The symbol for Time is HLdx, x being which ever segment you are currently programming.

Sooooo … to follow the schedule given for Effetre when you see the rA1 (ramp 1) you would enter:

(rA1) 1400 then enter
(°F1) 950 then enter
(HLd1) 8:00 then enter (This sets the hold time to 8 hours. If you normally torch for a longer or shorter length of time then change this to your needs. It’s better to error on the longer side.)

This ends the first segment.

For the second segment you need to enter the following:

(rA2) 1400 then enter
(°F2) 968 then enter
(HLd2) 1:00 then enter (This sets the annealing time to one hour.)

This ends the second segment.

For the third and final segment you need to enter the following:

(rA3) 120 then enter
(°F3) 848 then enter
(HLd3) 1 then enter (This sets the last hold time to 1 minute. Personally, I would set this to 0 but 1 is okay too.)

This ends the last segment.

I’m not positive on this controller but you should be able to press start/enter twice here to start the schedule and skip the remaining 5 segments you don't want to use. It may ask you for a few other things like delay time but simply keep pressing start/enter button until you see the read out say ON.

After the last segment has finished you should see the IDLE alternating with the current temp in the kiln on the display. From here the kiln will simply be cooling down on it’s own. Do NOT raise the lid until the read out is showing room temp.

If you find that you are finished before the 8 hour hold time in segment 1 then select the up arrow. You should see a read out containing SStPx for skip step with x being the segment number. If it shows SStP1 then press the up arrow again to skip the rest of segment 1. If it reads SStp2 then leave it alone and it will return to the second segment.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

[GlassaFrass*Studios]

Thanks bunches...I will try this info out and see how things go...wish me luck

[River Horse Studio]

Ok... wish I had seen this thread earlier.... I have annealing programs for the Jen Ken with a Bartlett.... anyone that would like one... please pm me with your email address and I can send it to you this evening. I have it for Straight in to the kiln, batch and boro! ~Holly

[beadgirl]

Thanks for the info , now I will try to progam mine.
MarieAnn

[beadgirl]

Melodie,
Question why is the first (ra1) at 1400 for Moretti/ Effetre coe 104 glass at 1400?
annealing point is 970 ...
can someone expain it to me?

[beadgirl]

Anyone have a idea?

[Judi_B]

The ra1 is the rate that the kiln will heat up when you start the program - 1400 deg/hour. It will then hold at the temp you set in the next step.

[beadgirl]

Thanks Judi,
Got it now and it makes sense!
I must have the old model 3 K Bought it in the Garage sale area had no manual. Mine has different words thar appear in read out.
Hopefully this box isn't smarter than me. MarieAnn

[beadgirl]

Does anyone have a batch annealing schedule for coe 104 they are willing to share info on?