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nklt0
2008-07-27, 11:44pm
Hi all,

I did this quick tut for the peeps at Sydney meeting and thought everyone else around the world may be interested as well.

You can find the tut HERE (http://beadsofmist.com/tut_spiralmurrini.html)

The murrini looks like the photo below when done and will only take about 10min to make about 10 cm (4 inch) length (perfect amount for a couple of sets IMHO).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/beadsofmist/tutorials/spiral_12.jpg

Please let me know if you have any question.


Cheers
Nancy

glasshouse
2008-07-27, 11:47pm
Hey that looks like fun! Very easy to read, too. Thanks for sharing!

:) Kelly

Troll Lover
2008-07-27, 11:47pm
Thank you for sharing indeed, that looks like fun!

nklt0
2008-07-27, 11:54pm
Hi Kelly, Anouk,

Glad you liked it.

It is not only fun, but super easy! So give it a try and show your results! :D

Cheers
Nancy
PS. aarrgg! i need a manicure! sorry if I gross you out! :oops:

theglasszone
2008-07-27, 11:56pm
Wow, this is really great!!! I love it - and I'm a murrini HOG!!! Thanks so much for sharing this with us!

DeAnne in CA

Tutti-frutti
2008-07-28, 1:26am
Oh, it's soo cute. I'll definetly will try it.
thanks for all the pictures
Katja

Teri.p
2008-07-28, 2:21am
This is brilliant! Thanks for sharing

Teri P

menty666
2008-07-28, 5:08am
that was great, thanks!

Sarabella
2008-07-28, 5:16am
This has lots of possibilities!! Thanks for sharing a clear, concise and fun tutorial with us. I'd love to see some pix with beads made with the murrini!

Sals

cherie
2008-07-28, 5:20am
Thats awesome, thanks so much

dgg112
2008-07-28, 5:48am
WOW thanks so much for sharing with us!! What a cool idea!!
Is there a trick to pulling a ribbon?? I can honestly say I've never done that before! Never even heard of it!

nklt0
2008-07-28, 5:56am
Thanks all for the comments!

Sals, I made a test bead but it's in the kiln so will post a picture tomorrow.

Debbie,
Actually I don't really think too much about it and it just worked for me. Like I said in the tut, make sure the paddle is nice and even before you pull. Heat and pull slowly will also help. Give it a try and let me know if you have any trouble.

Cheers
Nancy - going to bed!

glasswhimz
2008-07-28, 5:57am
I Love It Thanks!!!!

dgg112
2008-07-28, 6:34am
Thanks all for the comments!

Sals, I made a test bead but it's in the kiln so will post a picture tomorrow.

Debbie,
Actually I don't really think too much about it and it just worked for me. Like I said in the tut, make sure the paddle is nice and even before you pull. Heat and pull slowly will also help. Give it a try and let me know if you have any trouble.

Cheers
Nancy - going to bed!



Thanks Nancy, I think I'll try shaping my punty a little long and narrow. I've pulled every other kind just never a ribbon! Until I saw the goldstone ribbons in the garage I'd never seen them before!

Karen Hardy
2008-07-28, 7:13am
WONDERFUL tutorial!
Thanks so much for sharing, can't wait to try this.

Calypso
2008-07-28, 9:03am
Thanks for sharing! For some time I want to know how this is manufactured murrini.

Thanks,

Ana Marķa

Miss Kate
2008-07-28, 10:19am
Wonderful Tut! Thanks so much for sharing!

coyotesfamily
2008-07-28, 10:26am
that is a great tutorial. i'd love to see those in some beads

EmbellishYourself
2008-07-28, 12:26pm
I have been hesitant to make my own murrini and this looks like the perfect thing to start with. Thank you so much for sharing!

Kybeadmaker
2008-07-28, 3:01pm
Wow, thanks for showing us that. I'm gonna try it tonight !
Harriet

Libby L.
2008-07-28, 3:08pm
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!

tt4st
2008-07-28, 3:33pm
Clever idea! I have never attempted murrini but maybe I'll try this after your easy to understand tut. Thanks Nancy!

samandsha
2008-07-28, 5:08pm
That's awesome...thanks for sharing...gonna' have to give that a try!
Samma

Carols Glass
2008-07-28, 5:55pm
This is such a wonderful tutorial. I have wasted more glass than I care to say trying to make spiral murrini like this! Thank you so much,
Carol

nklt0
2008-07-28, 6:27pm
Apologies to people waiting for the bead photo!

It's freezing in Sydney this morning http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nikond2h/clip%20art/freezinsmile1.gif and I got out of bed just in time to catch the train to work. So no time to check the kiln or take photos. I'll get to it tonight I promise!

Cheers
Nancy

Teague
2008-07-28, 8:47pm
Wow I never thought to do them this way! It looks so easy, thank you!

Beadanna
2008-07-29, 2:58am
NICE ONE Nancy
Thanks

Beadanna

nklt0
2008-07-29, 5:15am
OK, here are some truly nasty examples using the murrini I made in the tutorial. Not the best of the beads, or picture for that matter, but it will give you an idea of what the murrini look like.

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Cheers
Nancy

LyndaJ
2008-07-29, 7:29am
Those are really nice!

bexrox
2008-07-31, 8:31pm
So cool! I'm going to give this a shot tonight! I'll post pics. Anybody got some pics ready yet?

theglasszone
2008-07-31, 9:08pm
Hi Everyone!

I don't know if you all saw it in last night's S&T; Nancy posted a bead that took this technique a "step up" and made a "rose" murrini using this tutorial as a foundation (at least that was my inference from her post). I've written her a PM and asked if she would consider adding her tips and techniques on how to accomplish this, or maybe do an additional tutorial on how it's done. If she decides to keep this a "private" technique, though, I surely understand and I thank her for simply inspiring us to put our own individual spins on this great foundation she's given us!

If you'd like to see what I'm talking about, check Post #5 in this thread - it really is great:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99628

~De in CA

nklt0
2008-07-31, 11:25pm
Hi De,

LOL! Thanks for the compliment. I PMed you back! :cool:

You are correct the rose murrini is made with this murrini technique. As for the advanced tutorial, I'll have to find time to do them first since its not a 10 min job! In the mean time, I would LOVE to see what everyone made.

Here's the bead in question:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/beadsofmist/beads/rose-yellow.jpg

Cheers
Nancy

veeanca
2008-08-01, 3:30pm
Nancy will you be demo'ing this at the next Sydney bead meet? ;)

nklt0
2008-08-02, 2:03am
Hi Vanessa,

seeing as I did most of the demo last month, I think it's someone else's turn. ;-)

Cheers
Nancy

gubnavnania
2008-08-02, 7:31pm
Hi Vanessa,

seeing as I did most of the demo last month, I think it's someone else's turn. ;-)

Cheers
Nancy

Jan's turn :D[-o<

tammydownunder
2008-08-03, 4:36pm
Nancy will you be demo'ing this at the next Sydney bead meet? ;)

This is why I was running between your photo tutorial and Nancy's spiral demo.

Michelle Walsh
2008-08-03, 5:52pm
Thank you! This is wonderful!

theglasszone
2008-08-04, 11:29am
I'm thinking that if we can encourage Nancy to do a "paid" tutorial on the Rose Murrini (and maybe other variations on this cool spiral?), she'll reveal even more exciting possibilities. Everyone, line up behind ME!!!

Thanks for sharing Nancy! Maybe if time and encouragement allow...

~De

Cherine Perrin
2008-08-05, 3:47am
Very cool technique. Thanks for sharing!

nklt0
2008-08-06, 12:13am
Hi De,

I'm thinking that if we can encourage Nancy to do a "paid" tutorial on the Rose Murrini (and maybe other variations on this cool spiral?), she'll reveal even more exciting possibilities. Everyone, line up behind ME!!!
LOL, you really really want the rose tut don't you? :fnwl: Alas, I don't think I'll have time to do a photo tut in the next few months. :cry:

Tell you what, post picture of two attempts with the spiral murrini and I'll PM you a written instruction. :kiss:

Cheers
Nancy

RyanTheNumberImp
2008-08-06, 1:32am
One of the best ways to make rose murrini I know of is in the Tonbo Dama book ( http://www.artcoinc.com/tonbo-dama_book.php ). It is the second picture from the top right, the pink and white gather. It is probbably hard to see, but a bead using the rose murrini is located at the very top rightish (white with pink and green).

That rose murrini is built by pulling "petal" cane and then combining them into the final rose murrini.

I can also think of a few other ways to make rose cane. You could try to make a spiral with a transparent and opaque color, but leave gaps in the opaque to make a "dashed" or broken spiral which might look like petals.
You could also start with a thin rod of transparent and paint on two or so petals, encase thinly, paint on more petals, encase, petals, (encase), and then pull.
I think the key in either case is to try to make the layers of transparent thin enough that your rose doesn't look empty.

nklt0
2008-08-06, 2:40am
There you go De,
I can also think of a few other ways to make rose cane. You could try to make a spiral with a transparent and opaque color, but leave gaps in the opaque to make a "dashed" or broken spiral which might look like petals.
Ryan's giving you the secrete without you having to pay for it! :lol::twisted::lol:

theglasszone
2008-08-06, 10:05am
Ryan is the BOMB!!!

He makes such amazing murrini!!! I do have the Tonbo Dama book - and have seen that Rose Cane as it's made there...until recently, I've been working strictly on a Hot Head and didn't have a good enough hot plate to be able to keep murrini or, in the case of the rose, strips of flat ribbon cane hot enough to add to a built cane.

I should definitely revisit this - and thanks for your offer, Nancy! I'll see if I can get it going on with the spiral....too many ideas, too little time!!!

Hugs to you both!
DeAnne in CA

naom-s
2008-08-06, 10:30am
Thank you! This is wonderful!
Naomi

nklt0
2008-08-06, 5:18pm
Hi Naomi,
Glad you liked it!

Hi De,
I've been working strictly on a Hot Head and didn't have a good enough hot plate to be able to keep murrini or, in the case of the rose, strips of flat ribbon cane hot enough to add to a built cane.
The good thing about this method is that it is very forgiving with thermo shock. The only time you need the heat is when melting the initial gather for the lolly-pop and doing the final melting before pull out. For the rest of the time, as long as you keep the ribbon shape (thin strip), you will not have any problem. As a matter of fact, I put down the whole ribbon after it was made and went to fiddle with the back ground to take some clearer photo for the tutorial (you can tell by the back ground for the ribbon pictures). After those photos are taken, I can touch the ribbon without been burned!

The only thing I will change for HH users is to use metal punties for the final pull. With the wide heat area glass puntie will melt and flop around before you are ready to pull.

Please everyone, give this a try and let me know any issues or problem that you have encountered. I will update the tutorial with additional tips if necessary.

Cheers
Nancy

cadia
2008-08-06, 5:36pm
Can't wait to try this thanks so much Nancy for posting!

SunDoorBeads
2008-08-08, 5:51pm
Great pics to go with a great tut!!! I can't wait to try this with the silver glasses I wonder what that would look like!!! Anyways thanks for a fun idea.
Michelle
www.sundoorbeads.com

ziggys
2008-08-09, 11:07am
Thanks for the tutorial. I keep seeing murrini or thinking of patterns I would like to make and wonder "how would I do that?". I would never have thought of rolling up glass!!!

Thanks Ryan, for the extra tips on how to make one into a rose. :)

Yvon
2008-08-14, 9:43am
Thanks for sharing such a wonderful tut - easy to follow, understand, and know what to expect. Nice to have the additional tips from others, too.

JetAge Studio
2008-08-24, 8:09am
Nancy, I was just wondering how to make spirals, then I happened upon this tut!! Thank you so much! A very easy read. Thought I'd give it a go. This is what I got:
134532 134533

I just want to share my experience with helping to keep the spiral crisp. Lay down the murrini chip on to your base; do not melt it into the base as is. Put a drop of clear right on top of the chip, THEN melt it into the base. It's fun!
Thanks so much for this tut!

Renee Wiggins

volkanokaren
2008-08-24, 8:54am
Thanks for the tip Renee !!!Nice beads as allways too.

Karen
Volkano Exotik

nklt0
2008-08-25, 5:09pm
Hi Renee,

Gorgeous bead!
Glad you enjoy the tutorial.

Cheers
Nancy

Jinx Garza
2008-08-25, 7:18pm
Cool method! Can't wait to try it tomorrow.

Jinx

thl
2008-10-08, 1:29pm
Nice tutorial ! I tried it over the weekend, and actually managed to pull a cane and cut slices. Wooo Whoo! Now I just have to work on my flower skills before I can post a result. Thank you for the tutorial!

Athalour
2008-10-17, 10:53am
Thanks so much! :D Can't wait to try it.

FourTailsLampwork
2008-10-19, 6:15am
I will try this--thank you so much for sharing!

firegrl
2009-06-24, 12:46am
I cant wait to try this

myrdlebp
2009-06-30, 5:31pm
Oh!! Thank you so much for bumping this up! I was looking for it a couple of weeks ago!

firegrl
2009-07-01, 11:03am
why oh why have I not tried this yet it is so cool

Sue in Maine
2009-07-01, 11:27am
Yes, I'm just now seeing this, too! Can't wait to try it.

Sue

nklt0
2009-07-01, 11:51pm
Thanks everyone, glad you enjoyed it.

Here's a slightly better example in beads
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/beadsofmist/beads/spiral_monotone.jpg


Cheers
Nancy

one hot beader
2010-02-18, 6:13pm
Nancy, I made two of these one after the other the other day.

They are sooooo much fun to make

One white, one with Moss agate.

The moss agate came out the most amazing blue/beige/green tones!

Not what I expected at all but VERY nice. (I was hoping for brown)

Here's a pic of a floral made with the white murrini. Pls excuse mandrel, feeling too lazy to clean it first!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/aloomba/spiralmurrinisml.jpg

glassymom
2010-03-27, 8:23pm
Bump, was looking for this for a while......YAY!
Thanks, goona try it soon!
sue

dla
2012-05-06, 3:29pm
Also going to try this one. :)

essiemessy
2012-05-06, 4:18pm
That is very cool :-)
Thanks!

Mitosis Glass
2012-05-06, 9:24pm
How did I miss this for all these years? This is great! Thank you so much for posting it. I can't wait to try it!