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sangita 2013-10-11 7:23pm

Too hot for Concentrator?
 
I have an Invacare 5. It has always served me well. I was making beads yesterday and the concentrator, after about 3 hours started beeping and then would stop producing. Each time I turned it off and back on it would work for a few mins and then do the same. It was a very hot day. About 90F. The concentrator is in a clean spot. I just moved to this house in August and I torch in the garage. The concentrator felt hot to the touch. Anyone have an idea?

Raimond 2013-10-11 8:05pm

Here is a link to the manual....

http://www.frankshospitalworkshop.co...e%20manual.pdf

istandalone24/7 2013-10-12 5:01am

i've used mine up to 95f and humid, no issues.

Angie09 2013-10-12 5:38am

I read here on LE about a week ago (of course, I can't remembering what thread) that it wasn't good to use a concentrator outside in the heat. That they needed to be indoors in the air conditioning. That was the first time I had heard that .... Could it be true?

istandalone24/7 2013-10-12 6:34am

bullshite. they're designed to be used by 90 year old Floridians with copd during the high heat of summer.
operating specs on most are 50f- 95f up to 99% humidity.

Croft Eeusk 2013-10-12 7:06am

Thanks for the link to the manual Raimond. I'm also on an Invacare5, reconditioned, for several years & it didn't come w/one.

DJ

Angie09 2013-10-12 2:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by istandalone24/7 (Post 4431599)
bullshite. they're designed to be used by 90 year old Floridians with copd during the high heat of summer.
operating specs on most are 50f- 95f up to 99% humidity.

Good to know ...thanks!

sangita 2013-10-12 6:44pm

Thank you and I am thrilled to have the manual. Will let you know how I go

Raimond 2013-10-12 7:00pm

However, they are designed to fill a small bottle in ~2-3 hours and then rest. We put them in a situation they were not designed for and they perform well for us...

A car is designed to reach speeds of 100mph, however, if you drive it slower it will require less repairs...

Fill your K or T tanks to 2000psi everytime and it will not last for long...


losthelm 2013-10-12 7:50pm

Look at the manual, there may be buildup in the vent or filter.
Constricted air flow causes problems for all sorts of things.

sangita 2013-10-15 5:18am

I think it was constricted air flow
 
So I loosed the pipe that went from the torch to see if there was an obstruction, reattached it and ran it just fine the rest of the day.
The day I had problems I was using silver glass so was probably playing with my oxygen dial. Anyway no repeat of the problem! Thank you.

Cabaribeads 2013-10-16 10:35am

Wow! What had gotten into the pipe? i have been having trouble, too.

sangita 2013-11-10 4:05pm

As far as I could tell Patty nothing? So it ran just fine for the last few weeks and now its doing it again. I took the pipe off. Its still doing it. Im petrified of opening it up. I think I'll sage it, light some incense and invoke the Invacare Gods.

Cabaribeads 2013-11-10 7:54pm

I so hear ya! I disconnected mine and put a tank on that torch.

Eileen 2013-11-10 8:16pm

I have heard that you can get a long hose & run it from the concentrator that is inside, through a cracked window or door to the torch outside too.

KJohn 2013-11-10 9:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eileen (Post 4453942)
I have heard that you can get a long hose & run it from the concentrator that is inside, through a cracked window or door to the torch outside too.

^^ this. I do this with mine.

beadsoncypress 2013-11-11 7:25am

i have two that started doing the same thing at the same time. I got all new hoses, fresh propane and found a new Carlisle Mini CC I had stashed away (who me hoard glassy tools??) Now I will re-assemble and see if they still do it.

thanks for the manual Raimond....I needed that!

Will keep you updated!

Susan

thebeadlady 2013-11-12 12:45pm

I'm using a Devilbiss oxygenator... It's decided to quit on me. .. not sure what to do to get it going again any ideas?

istandalone24/7 2013-11-12 1:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eileen (Post 4453942)
I have heard that you can get a long hose & run it from the concentrator that is inside, through a cracked window or door to the torch outside too.

now i thought of doing just that...but i've got a good 30 or 40 feet between the heated house and unheated garage...and i think not being able to see the lpm gauge would drive me nuts (i've got a bit of ocd).

does anyone know how long of a hose is too long? i'd imagine you'd lose some psi if it was longer then 25' or so...but that is based on nothing solid, just a hunch.

kbinkster 2013-11-12 2:05pm

Generally, you want the hose to be 12' or shorter. The longer the hose, the more the pressure drops.

sangita 2013-11-15 4:02am

So did we decide that it cant run in the heat. Im still scared to open it. Losthelm, can you write me a tutorial?

Eileen 2013-11-15 7:24am

Have you tried running it in the house to see if it does the same thing?

AVAILABLE/OXYGEN 2013-11-18 9:00am

FOR THE INVACARE 5 If you are so inclined you can take the cover off (just 8 screws along the bottom 4 sides) visible on the back side of the circuit board is 3 lights red yellow green watch these lights as the machine shuts down, they will blink in a code that explaines the problem and is printed right beside the lights. Or send it to me and i,ll fix it for you call me 765-349-4151

AVAILABLE/OXYGEN 2013-11-18 9:07am

For the devilbiss, if you want to call me we might figure it out 765-349-4151thanks ;david

AVAILABLE/OXYGEN 2013-11-18 9:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by istandalone24/7 (Post 4431599)
bullshite. They're designed to be used by 90 year old floridians with copd during the high heat of summer.
Operating specs on most are 50f- 95f up to 99% humidity.

yes, and do it 24/7 thanks ; david

istandalone24/7 2013-11-18 4:39pm

i've ran my machines down to 40f (i was pushing it that day) and up to 95f and 98% humid, and they just take it and keep going.


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