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tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-02 1:24pm

Totally new here, question.
 
Hey everyone,
If this question has been asked before please point me in the right direction, I used the search and didn't find an answer. I just started making beads last week. I am having issues with my bead release. When I heat my mandrel the release cracks and either goes flying off or gets all over my bead. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? I have cleaned my mandrels and used a low grit sandpaper and that hasn't helped. I also tried to flame dry them but got the same result as air dry. Thank you in advance

jeepinwelch 2015-01-02 1:49pm

I always stick my mandrels in the flame to burn off any machining oil before I use them. What kind of bead release are you using? How long do you let it dry?

tela 2015-01-02 2:15pm

How thick is it when you use it? I like mine like thin pancake batter.
Adding water as needed to get that consistency.

tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-02 2:28pm

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Originally Posted by jeepinwelch (Post 4697735)
I always stick my mandrels in the flame to burn off any machining oil before I use them. What kind of bead release are you using? How long do you let it dry?

I am using the fireworks release, it is the stuff that came in the kit I received, and I am letting them dry overnight.

tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-02 2:30pm

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Originally Posted by tela (Post 4697747)
How thick is it when you use it? I like mine like thin pancake batter.
Adding water as needed to get that consistency.

I am putting one coat on, so not very thick and it is about the same thickness as Elmers glue... maybe I should try thinning it out a bit?

2xMI 2015-01-02 2:36pm

I don't know of anyone who has had good luck the Fireworks bead release. Take a look at some of the vendors' sites on this board and see what they have to offer. There are many types of bead release that will do a good job for you. I've used Alice's bead release for over 10 years and it's worked really well for me (it comes in a powder form that you mix with water). Others use Foster Fire, Sludge Plus, Fusion, etc. I know how frustrating it is to have crappy bead release, so you have my sympathy! Good luck.

Mimi

jeepinwelch 2015-01-02 2:45pm

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Originally Posted by tinybaublesandbling (Post 4697754)
I am using the fireworks release, it is the stuff that came in the kit I received, and I am letting them dry overnight.

There's your problem.

Sue in Maine 2015-01-02 3:25pm

Yep, I was going to say it's the bead release. Robin Foster sells the bead release I use and she's having a sale right now. Fosterfire.

Sue

Mesnik 2015-01-02 4:58pm

Two thumbs up for Forster Fire!

tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-02 5:19pm

Is there a reason the type I have doesn't work? Or is it just a crappy product?

echeveria 2015-01-02 5:46pm

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Originally Posted by tinybaublesandbling (Post 4697879)
Is there a reason the type I have doesn't work? Or is it just a crappy product?

Crappy product. Never heard of anyone that uses it successfully.

2DogsPhoto 2015-01-02 9:14pm

Fyi: the torch will crash out pretty soon too. You can light it manually (use a striker) but you might want to go ahead and look into getting a hot head torch. Works like a fireworks, but better.
My favorite bead release, foster fire https://www.etsy.com/shop/FosterFireBR
You won't believe the difference!

squid 2015-01-02 9:49pm

Crap crap crap - Fosterfire or Fusion

SerendipityArtGlass 2015-01-02 10:27pm

There are 5 hot heads for sale over in the garage sale area right now.

tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-03 9:32am

Thank you all for your suggestions!! I am going to order some of the foster fire release today. As far as torch heads go, a friend of my husband's offered to sell me her oxygen/ propane set up for a really good price, but I don't know.... is this getting ahead of myself? Should I just get a hothead and stick with the mapp gas for now?

jeepinwelch 2015-01-03 10:57am

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Originally Posted by tinybaublesandbling (Post 4698116)
As far as torch heads go, a friend of my husband's offered to sell me her oxygen/ propane set up for a really good price, but I don't know.... is this getting ahead of myself? Should I just get a hothead and stick with the mapp gas for now?

If it's a good deal snag it! You can always post it for sale in the Garage Sale area if you don't end up using it. 90% of my equipment came to me that way. The less you spend on equipment the more you can spend on glass!

tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-03 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by jeepinwelch (Post 4698153)
If it's a good deal snag it! You can always post it for sale in the Garage Sale area if you don't end up using it. 90% of my equipment came to me that way. The less you spend on equipment the more you can spend on glass!

Very good point! I may have just bought 18lbs of glass :-\" I can see this turning into a major addiction

tela 2015-01-03 1:34pm

oh, that is an understatement!
The good news is you will be so darn happy about it!
and yes, always upgrade if you can. You will want a bigger torch sooner or later.

jeepinwelch 2015-01-03 2:24pm

18 pounds? Nothing like jumping in with both feet! :fnwl:

tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-03 2:41pm

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Originally Posted by jeepinwelch (Post 4698221)
18 pounds? Nothing like jumping in with both feet! :fnwl:

lol go big or go home :twisted:

jeepinwelch 2015-01-03 3:12pm

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Originally Posted by tinybaublesandbling (Post 4698227)
lol go big or go home :twisted:

You need to meet up with Leslie Bitgood, AKA Crazy Woman glass. She's in Lakewood. The enormity of her stash puts us all to shame.

tinybaublesandbling 2015-01-03 3:55pm

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Originally Posted by jeepinwelch (Post 4698235)
You need to meet up with Leslie Bitgood, AKA Crazy Woman glass. She's in Lakewood. The enormity of her stash puts us all to shame.

oh very cool! Lakewood is not far from me at all! I will have to look her up.


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