Thank you all so much yeah I have shopped the red max and like those a lot. I really really wanted a phantom but just don't know if I'm ready to drop that kind of money yet on something that is just a past time right now.but I still might get a wild hair when I decide to buy. And just to help clarify , when I said colored glass I was mainly referring to the tubing , like cobalt and green or Amber, but also clear. I don't have too much trouble with the rods as far as the texture and over working. Just when I am trying to get the final shape or condense something hollow is when I get the rough texture
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