hmmm lol.
Ok so I've tried a few more times, it's just not working for me
I've tried different flames, parts of the flame, bead size, warm and cool. Still need to take pics, mostly it looks like black with over reduced parts. One I thought was 'coppery' last night was just that muddy over reduced greenish.
On the other hand, I'm in love with Iris, which is supposed to be a bronze version of it. You would think it would play as well.