Oh, you want one! Beleive me.
I have the 5 point 16mm one. I would like one bigger with more petals too.
Use them with my Birdjewelry to make more elaborately strug peices.
I like the 16 and 18 ga copper wire, as when they are out of the kiln the copper wire is nice and soft enough to cut short for wrapping and bunching together.
I was fortunate enough to have scored one in the garage sale. I also figure the investment is always worth it. And... if you dont like or use it, it would sell in like 5 minutes here.