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Old 2007-08-26, 7:39pm
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Afina, lovely twisties. They look like fire!
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Old 2007-08-27, 12:05pm
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Mine are shocky, too! Got used to it. I think it is because i tend to heat and reheat them while twisting, so that different parts of it had different amounts of heat. And I fairly often twist bubbles, too . But I warm them slowly in the far part of the flame, like shocky glass (anis e.g.) and this works O.K. for me.
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Old 2007-09-11, 6:47pm
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I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread, and hope that there will be more recipes to come so that we can get a wide variety...pretty please. Thanks for all the ones that have been posted so far.
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Have you tried annealing them? I've never done this myself but have heard it suggested before when others had this problem. I just made some twisties yesaterday and had some shockiness, totally messed up my bead!
It wasn't a huge problem but definately annoying.
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Old 2007-09-21, 4:16pm
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Cynthia I want to be you when I grow up. I think that your work is amazing. I look at it and all I can say is WOW WOW and how in the world did she do that. How long have you been doing this and how much was from classes vs self taught.

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Old 2007-09-22, 7:14am
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Wow Michael,
Those rings are too cool, I love them!
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Old 2007-09-22, 4:23pm
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These are great! More Twistie Recipes and photos please! Pretty Please!!!
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Wow, what a great thread! I need to start making some twisties; I've got a lot of practicing to do!
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Please can we have more? I love this thread and have gotten some wonderful ideas, but please post more pretty please
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Old 2007-10-02, 8:13pm
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Wilma, you need to sit down and try some of them. Or just take colors you like.
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a twistie of opal yellow, rubino and intense black.

Actually, there were more but only those ones did the trick, and i'm able to replicate the look with that recipe.
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Old 2007-10-24, 3:03pm
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If only I could do twisties...I can do stringer, but am twistie challenged!!
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Old 2007-10-24, 3:59pm
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I'd be willing to bet you are not twistie challenged, but rather trying to make the twistie withe glass that is too hot.....try working cooler (further out) in the flame - and when you bring the glass out - count to 4 before you start to twist.....

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Old 2007-10-26, 8:22pm
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I too think you can do twisties. Which ways have you tried? I know a bazillion ways to do them and one of them is bound to work for you.

The very first kind I ever tried to make worked so it must be fool proof.

Take 2 glass rods and tape them together about 5 inches down from the end you wanted to melt.

Heat the first 1st inch or so, paying attention to heating the "seam" between the two rods. Watch while the glass rods droop and flop out of control. Not to worry! Use less heat, and mash them together and horizontal again using a marver.

Heat until they are melted together. They won't turn into a gather if you keep using the marver and don't overheat them!

Once they are hot enough to pull, (fused together, molten really), use a pair of small pliers, grab the tips of both ends with one hand, twist and pull the rods with the other hand out of the flame.

If your on a HH you have to keep reheating the rods.

Ok, so I don't even know if you already tried this and hated doing it that way. But I'm not deleting all this now!!!

Please PM me if this isn't clear or you want more info or another way to do it.
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Roseanne, you beat me to it..eheh..I was going to ask the same question! Great minds,uh?
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Im glad you didnt delete this , I will try this later today. I will also try to work cooler as Curly Girl suggested. The ways that I have tried are from Cornia's book. I can get a sort of twistie, but it doesnt come out even, it has bumpy edges and they are really, really short. Thanks for the tip








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I too think you can do twisties. Which ways have you tried? I know a bazillion ways to do them and one of them is bound to work for you.

The very first kind I ever tried to make worked so it must be fool proof.

Take 2 glass rods and tape them together about 5 inches down from the end you wanted to melt.

Heat the first 1st inch or so, paying attention to heating the "seam" between the two rods. Watch while the glass rods droop and flop out of control. Not to worry! Use less heat, and mash them together and horizontal again using a marver.

Heat until they are melted together. They won't turn into a gather if you keep using the marver and don't overheat them!

Once they are hot enough to pull, (fused together, molten really), use a pair of small pliers, grab the tips of both ends with one hand, twist and pull the rods with the other hand out of the flame.

If your on a HH you have to keep reheating the rods.

Ok, so I don't even know if you already tried this and hated doing it that way. But I'm not deleting all this now!!!

Please PM me if this isn't clear or you want more info or another way to do it.
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One of my favorites using the "lollipop" method is Rubino in the center with EDP on one side and coral - I use dusty rose - on the other. You have to work in a fairly cool oxygen rich flame to keep the rubino red, but on OY it is gorgeous!
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One of my favorites using the "lollipop" method is Rubino in the center with EDP on one side and coral - I use dusty rose - on the other. You have to work in a fairly cool oxygen rich flame to keep the rubino red, but on OY it is gorgeous!
I just love your kitty pic!
When you say you add edp etc. to the lollipop, do you heat a gather, mash it, and then run the stripe across the center of the pop, flip over and add the other color?

Never mind...it's coming back to me now... That's a nice easy way too!
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Im glad you didnt delete this , I will try this later today. I will also try to work cooler as Curly Girl suggested. The ways that I have tried are from Cornia's book. I can get a sort of twistie, but it doesnt come out even, it has bumpy edges and they are really, really short. Thanks for the tip
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What torch are you on? I found that I had to do everything a little different than the books said when using a HH than when using a surface mix torch.
I had to keep putting the glass back in the flame using a HH, and the twist would be uneven.

Sometimes it takes awhile to learn to twist and pull fast enough to get a longer twist. If you twist less you get a longer pull.

Maybe concentrate on pulling more and just getting a few good twists in there the first few tries.

Mashing a gather of glass on the end of a rod, (ie,the lollipop method, chystalflip's post above) and then adding a stripe of color on either side is a good way to try.

Next heat the tip of the gather and grab all three colors with your pliers when you pull.
Also wait a few seconds before starting to pull for the skin to form on the glass.
Argh, a web-cam would be nice right about now!

My favorite way to do twists now is the from Kimberly Affleck's tutorial on here. Let me find the tutorial.....
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...horse+twisties

These are really fun to do and look so cool on beads. It seemed kind of advanced for me to try, but once I made one I couldn't stop.

Still it might be better to start with 2 colors and get that down.
I also like the toothbrush method...Do you know that one?
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I've not heard/seen of the toothbrush method. Do tell!
It probably sounds more interesting than it is?!?

Hold one rod in each hand. Heat the bottom of the last inch of one rod and the "top" of the last inch of the other. When they are hot enough, stick the two heated ends together laying one on top of the other.

Since I don't know how to draw pics., on here, visualize one end of a rod as toothpaste laid on top of the other rod... the toothbrush.
(I think the name of this method comes from Cindy Jenkins.)

Keep heating the two rods where they join. I have a marver sitting on my work space so I can push the rods straight again when they start to droop.
You want to keep everything horizontal.

Bend one rod up so it attachs to the end of the "toothpaste" rod.
Bend the toothpaste rod down so it attaches to the end of the toothbrush rod.
Aim the flame at the middle. The glass will slowly melt into a gather forming a football shape.
Heat until you don't see any change in color on either rod end, especially where the "seam" is.
Try not to turn, push, or pull, either rod so the colors stay seperated and even.

Keep heating until the football shape is so molten you think it will fall onto the table.
Take out of the flame, give a little pull to make sure it's ready, wait for a skin to form and pull and twist.
Twist away from yourself with the right hand and towards yourself with the left hand.
That way when you apply the twistie if you want to make it a little tighter you can easily twist it a bit more (if your right handed) while its being applied to the bead......I think I have that part right. I never really thought this out, I just do it. But I remember Corrina writing about it.

I think there is a trick to knowing exactly when to pull but I can't remember it. Anyone? I just guess.

I think I need to learn how to draw pictures and get them onto LE!
Please let me know if this does or does not make sense.
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I sorry I posted pix and have not returned with a tut. I use the lollypop recipe with a nortel minor/redmax.
1. melt a white lump and squish with flat mashers.
2. flatten round edges of lollypop so you are left with a square pop.
3. case tansparent aquamarine on one side of the pop.
4. case opaque yellow ocher and orange on other side of pop.
5. put extra dence stringer of black on thin seam right and left
deliniating the orange and blue.
6. case in clear. you now have a thick lollypop put extra clear on the ends
with no black stringer. These are the ends you are attaching your (punty) handles.
I use a uncoated thick mandrel.
7. now case the flat sides of the lollypop with enough clear to create a cylinder.
case carefully so as to trap as few bubbles as possible.
8 attach punty on opposite side of lump then heat and pull.
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Hey guys, I haven't had TIME to make a tut of my method for you all, but I plan to at some point... let me share this info tho:

SHOCKY twisties are usually full of AIR! Yup... if when you are applying glass to glasss, you trap air, and don't manage to remove the trapped air when heating the mass of glass before pulling, the air causes your twisty to POP/shatter.

One of the most difficult (for me) aspects of turning out a large volume of twisties, is finding a way to melt large amounts of glass, remove ALL the air, AND produce a long pull with a tight twist, simultaneously.

Using a mandrel spinner helps with the latter, but removing the air is time consuming, involving moving your mass of glass thru the flame in the same direction, repeatedly and squeezing the air out that way.

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Mine are shocky, too! Got used to it. I think it is because i tend to heat and reheat them while twisting, so that different parts of it had different amounts of heat. And I fairly often twist bubbles, too . But I warm them slowly in the far part of the flame, like shocky glass (anis e.g.) and this works O.K. for me.
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