Silver glass fuming pale colours

[spiderfire]

Hi, I´m Sue AKA spiderfire, Other people seem to be able to put silver or silver glass on pale colours without it fuming and discolouring the glass underneath. I have tried encasing and that doesn´t work either. Any tips or tricks would be gratefully received!

[Speedslug]

I have not done it myself but I remember some using coke or some other acid to remove unwanted fuming when working with silvered glass.

[spiderfire]

I thought that was just for removing the dark patches on turquoise.

[Eileen]

Maybe a photo?

[MelanieG]

Which pale colours have you tried? Some colours are more sensitive to silver and fuming than others.

[Hayley]

Originally Posted by spiderfire

Hi, I´m Sue AKA spiderfire, Other people seem to be able to put silver or silver glass on pale colours without it fuming and discolouring the glass underneath. I have tried encasing and that doesn´t work either. Any tips or tricks would be gratefully received!

Which silver glass did you use? Most reducing silver glass do fume the base glass especially if it takes a long time to work the bead. Also some silver glasses fume less than others.

ETA: using acid/pickle to remove the fuming effects will also remove the silver glass ones.

[spiderfire]

I haven´t given up on this - it´s just I´m having difficulty finding a photo of beads that have silver glass without fuming. I would like to say that I have a lot of beads of mine that I could show to say ´this is what I do not like¨ and I will post some soon!

[Eileen]

Your beads are what I was hoping to see!

[Speedslug]

Any chance you can encase the colors you don't want to get fumed with a thin clear then add the silver glass afterward and heat it all back to roundness?


Just a thought.

[Hayley]

Originally Posted by Speedslug

Any chance you can encase the colors you don't want to get fumed with a thin clear then add the silver glass afterward and heat it all back to roundness?


Just a thought.

The silver glass will most likely fume the clear.

[Cosmo]

I know with borosilicate colors with a high silver content, when that happens you heat the whole thing with a hot oxidizing flame and burn off the fume. Will that work?

[Speedslug]

Thanks Hayley.

[spiderfire]

Ok, here are some photos to show what I mean. The beautiful white beads were made by Ekrbeads and the others are mine!

[Ravenesque]

The barrel/tube beads look fine?
The organic one, that's a lot of silver glass to not have it fume the rest, you have to waft it in and out really quick, especially on a bead drizzled in that much. If the lines and dots were raised more they wouldn't fume as much, just do it really quickly.

[Jeri]

Are you sure that the white beads you admire aren't decorated with a reduction glass like iris gold, instead of a silver glass?

[Eileen]

The bottom beads look like the petals are pale blue traNsparent, which doesn't seem to fume as much as white, ivory, etc

[Ravenesque]

Very true Elieen, I meant to come back and add that in. White fumes really fast.

Originally Posted by Jeri

Are you sure that the white beads you admire aren't decorated with a reduction glass like iris gold, instead of a silver glass?

It still is a silver glass though, isn't it? It's just another reduction glass.
I make beads with little dots and/or scrolls, and have used both iris gold or any number of metallic reduction glasses. This can be done with DH silver glass, reichenbach, kugler etc.