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2010-06-14, 11:33am
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Wendy
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2010-06-14, 12:07pm
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Will work for glass...
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Lydia Muell is exceptional at making glass look like watercolors! She made a tutorial about it. I don't have a link but it is posted here in the tutorial section.
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2010-06-16, 8:30pm
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Formerly Kellyhorton
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Is this the type of watercolor you mean? Here is Anne rickets tutorial of a chintz bead. To me, it looks like watercolors
http://www.amrglassworks.net/Chintzpage.html
also this http://www.lavendercreek.de/Tutorial...orflorals.html
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2010-06-16, 11:47pm
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Leda
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Hi Kelly! The look is similar to Anne's chintz beads, but I'm envisioning a more defined petal shape with a strong color, but at the same time, a thin and subtle gradient of color in the petals. I had also thought about Anne's beads; they are close! Thanks so much! I have also looked at Lydia M.'s, the Krissy Beads tut and Lavender Creek's tut. They are close, but not exactly what I am trying for. It just seems like I can't achieve the strength or intensity I want on the flower petals. Any more ideas from anyone I would greatly appreciate your help and ideas!
Thanks!
Leda :0)
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2010-06-18, 4:31pm
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Leda
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Watercolor Florals
Yes, I have seen that article as well, it is very good. It is still not exactly the look I am going for...still wondering!
Leda
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2010-06-18, 5:04pm
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You can use frit blends. Take a clear rod, and dip it several times in the frit blend and pull out a thick stringer. Apply to an opaque base. I use Glass Diversions frit blends. I learned this from Fran Carrico when I was teaching in Indiana. Yep, I was teaching and I learned a new trick too, and it works.
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2010-06-18, 11:30pm
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Leda
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Thanks for the idea! I will try it tomorrow, hopefully!
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Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:49am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by Angela Schoonen
I'm not sure I've got it quite right - but I made a stringer by layering transparent over white and it turned out quite nice. Etching the bead made a huge difference, too.
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Angela, do you have a picture of what you are describing? Thanks!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:50am
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Leda
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Hi Glassacctt, do you have a picture of a bead you made with the technique you are describing? That would be great..thanks!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:51am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by Angela Schoonen
I'm not sure I've got it quite right - but I made a stringer by layering transparent over white and it turned out quite nice. Etching the bead made a huge difference, too.
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Angela, do you have a picture you can show us? thx!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:53am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by makitmama
I'm kinda in the same boat.....I like to use a combo frit over white as the base, then petals that contrast. I have had better results with a couple of colors I got from Monique that are clear and transparent combined...one is a hot salmon color that does well over a white petal.
I have coveted Caliente glass, but all the pinks are always sold out. They, and Gail's Gaffer glass, are wispy from the get-go.
If I come up with any great results, I'll PM ya!
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Makitmama,
Do you have any pics of the results you have come up with when using your ideas that you are describing? Thanks!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:54am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by InsanityBeader
Just reading these now, I came up with an idea that I might try tomorrow. I, too, really like that painterly look. An idea I am going to try is taking verto-opal white and coating it with a transparent. Not sure if it will work. I know that the opal white (vetro) can produce a veiny/whispy appearance, However, it is a lot like anice white in that it can be a real shocky pain to work with. Anyway, I wanted to share that since this discussion kind of turned on that particular light bulb. Good Luck and if I manage it, I'll try to post a pic
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Susan, did you have any luck when you tried your idea? Can you show us a picture?
Thx!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:57am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by chrissij
Enamels kinda sorta work if you don't let them get so hot they boil...like if you take a white stringer, heat it a tad, and then dip it in blue enamel and then place your dot. I've made some cool lookin' flowers that way; I've made some completely horrific lookin' flowers that way.
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Chrissij,
Did you have any pics to show us? Thx!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:58am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by maddog1050
I've made stringer with a light opaque core, such as periwinkle and cased with a darker opaque, such as cobalt. When I make my flowers I make a white dot, melt flat then put a dot of the stringer. Then I take a clear stringer and pull each petal into a point or a razor and crease and pull each petal. The result is mottled-- a painterly effect of the two blues. I've tried it with yellow/red and it works the same.
Not sure if this is what you are after, but give it a try. I like how it turns out.
I always start with a white dot because I think it sort of 'anchors' any colors layered on top, even opaque ones.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Maddog,
Can you show us a picture? thanks!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 3:59am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by MaureenKennedy
I have found if mix clear transparent with opaque it will give a wispy look to the petals. I believe I read that if you sprinkle like white enamel ontop of your opaque base and then your regular opaque, the enamels will cause the petals to wisp out.
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Hi Maureen,
Do you have a pic you could show us? thx!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 4:00am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by bluhealer
How "wispy" do you want?
Something I like is opalino white instead of opaque white, under several layers of transparent color.
Example: clear or colored trans core/thin layer white or pale pink opalino/layer of ink violet/stripes of white opalino/case with amber rose, pink, whatever...and pull into approx 2mm stringers.
Somewhere in the archives over on WC is an old tutorial I wrote that gave a "painted" look, though it may not be what you're after.
Hope that helps!
Carolyn
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Hi Bluhealer, Do you have any pics you could show us?
Thx!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 4:02am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by Carolyn M
Not sure, but is this the look you are looking for?
If so, its layers of opaque and transparent on top of hand mixed frit combination, on a base of white. Oh and then etched - that makes a big difference
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Hi Carolyn M.
Do you have a pic you could show us? Thanks!
Leda
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2010-07-03, 4:05am
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Leda
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Originally Posted by jw2
Hi!
Something I have done that gives a "watercolor effect" is to use a transparent rod, melt a gather, dip into a frit blend that is a mix of transparents and pull into a stringer. Once you get the frit melted onto your ball of trans. don't moosh it together, just pull a stringer from it. Make your petals with an opaque, melt down, then dot with the stringer,melt in, put a dot of trans on top of that. Not sure if that is the effect you are talking about!!
Kristy
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Hi Kristy! Do you have any pics you could post for us of the beads that you made with your technique idea?
Thanks so much!
Leda
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