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2010-12-23, 12:21pm
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My email address through Pappashop was used to spam thousands!
My email address from Pappashop was evidently used to send thousands of spam emails. This appears to be an email server problem as I don't have any record of any of these emails coming through my outlook express.
Is anyone else experiencing this? The reason that I know is because I have had 4000+ email undeliverable emails bounced back to my email address. They are all to aol email addresses and appear to be those fake emails telling you that your bank account has been suspended.
Has anyone else been affected. I did open a ticket.
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2010-12-23, 12:28pm
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It may not have anything to do with your server at all... usually they are just spoofing the return address of spam sent from their own server. I've had it happen too; it sucks but there is nothing that anyone can really do if that's the case.
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2010-12-23, 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by Kalera
It may not have anything to do with your server at all... usually they are just spoofing the return address of spam sent from their own server. I've had it happen too; it sucks but there is nothing that anyone can really do if that's the case.
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It wasn't spoofed. I looked at the headers. I was it had been.
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2010-12-23, 4:40pm
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What about a virus? I'd update my virus protection and run a complete scan.
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2010-12-23, 5:05pm
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What about a virus? I'd update my virus protection and run a complete scan.
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Way ahead of you! However, my computer was even turned on at the time all of the spam purportedly went out.
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2010-12-23, 11:13pm
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This happened to me when I was on Pappashop too. I had a couple horrible days of a thousand return emails, then it went away. I'm not sure if Pappashop was able to block the glut of nondeliverable messages, or if it just went away because the spammers changed spoofed email addys.
I always assumed it was spoofing, because I don't know enough about the headers to tell if it's different. However, if you're right that the PS server was hacked, that might well be the cause of my further email problems with the server IP being blocked by spamlists, which was that thread you replied to that I posted about a week ago.
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=182002
Things that make you go Hmmmmm....
I'm so glad I switched. I went with Westhost; they transferred everything en masse, for free. And the current sale is a great price. I made a thread last week about that too *Chuckles*
http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=182417
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2010-12-24, 6:29pm
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Thanks Disa!
I did some more research this morning and I found out that my email does not have an SPF authentication attached to it. That's where the email is checked to see if it originates from your approved email server.
I've generated the code now I need to get it installed as part of the DNS for my domain.
In the meanwhile I went into cPanel and deleted the offending email address. It seems like just before the SPAM starts they send out a test email using that email address. I have copies of those as well as copies of the headers that were bounced back with the AOL undeliverable messages.
It seems to me this type of security should have been addressed by my hosting service.
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2010-12-26, 10:36am
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I have Pappashop as well and no problems here. Sorry that you did. What a pain!
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2010-12-26, 12:21pm
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I have Pappashop as well and no problems here. Sorry that you did. What a pain!
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Thanks, Leslie! I'm working on getting SPF information put in the DNS record.
In the meanwhile I have totally deleted that email address. Hopefully, I'll be able to restore it in a few days.
I sent some emails from my other addresses from the same domain to my AOL email addresses. They went through so I guess the volume of spam wasn't enough to get my domain banned.
All of the headers were authentic. The emails were coming through PS's server.
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2010-12-27, 2:11pm
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I checked in Cpanel and there is a way to add an SPF record there through the email authentication option. It would have been nice for them to have told me this when I opened the ticket with the spam problem. I understand that PS is mainly a self managed web hosting type of situation but I don't think the end user should be automatically expected to know all of the security ramifications of email. At any rate I've enabled this now.
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2010-12-28, 10:07pm
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I have been having this happen to me too here lately. My AOL account has been use in this way, on several occassions and I have even had my computer "fixed" cleaned and freshly installed antivirus protection for both internet and regular workings......???????????
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2010-12-29, 12:45am
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They used one of my email addresses too. There is nothing you can do about it. Just sit and wait until the returned mails stop.
I didn't change my email address and everything went back to normal after a week. There is no provider that can prevent these things from happening.
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2010-12-29, 11:43am
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I have been having this happen to me too here lately. My AOL account has been use in this way, on several occassions and I have even had my computer "fixed" cleaned and freshly installed antivirus protection for both internet and regular workings......???????????
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I've found that when I've had this happen through my AOL addresses that the headers are usually spoofed. I just report it to AOL as spam and *poof* it stops. I think that they probably block domains.
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They used one of my email addresses too. There is nothing you can do about it. Just sit and wait until the returned mails stop.
I didn't change my email address and everything went back to normal after a week. There is no provider that can prevent these things from happening.
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Mine seems to have stopped for now. The SPF record is supposed to help.
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