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2012-07-09, 10:03am
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Boro or soft? Please respond
Hi, my friend requested that I make her a "doughnut bead" (large disk shaped bead) for her daughter to use as a "teething necklace" for a baby. Apparently this is a popular idea since babies are often pulling at their moms' necklaces and putting them in their mouths, the glass doughnut is safe for teething and more attractive than wearing a clip-on teether. I've never heard of this but I figured it would be best to use boro since my impression is that boro is more stable and less likely to break.
Well, needless to say my boro skills are pretty limited! I am far more skilled with soft glass and the result would be much more aesthetically pleasing if I use soft glass.
What do you think? The last thing I would want is for my glass to break in a baby's mouth!
Opinions?
Thanks, Alison
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2012-07-09, 10:06am
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I think the last thing I would put in a baby's mouth is a glass anything. Just my opinion.
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2012-07-09, 10:08am
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Whatever you make, make it REALLY BIG so there is no choking hazard.
(I don't think I'd undertake this particular project myself.)
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2012-07-09, 10:39am
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Keep in mind that the other thing babies like to do best with things like that is bash them on other things - tables, ground, heads.... if a bead should chip or crack, it would be a disaster waiting to happen. And you will get the blame.
(If I were going to do something like this, which I wouldn't, I would use clear boro. No sense adding all sorts of lovely things like cadmium and copper and such to the other hazards.)
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2012-07-09, 12:41pm
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t sounds like a lovely, eco-friendly idea. However, I would definitely add my voice to the "DO NOT do this" chorus. Big companies may have liability coverage that you do not, and a minuscule flaw in the teething bead could mean personal and emotional disaster for your friend, her baby, and for you.
If you do go ahead with the project, I would definitely go with clear boro, large enough that the baby cannot swallow it even if it gets off its chain or ring, and have your bead tested for stress before you give it to your friend. And, friend or not, I would consider having her sign a legal waiver acknowledging the potential hazards and clearing you from any liability.
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2012-07-09, 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by FourTailsLampwork
t sounds like a lovely, eco-friendly idea. However, I would definitely add my voice to the "DO NOT do this" chorus. Big companies may have liability coverage that you do not, and a minuscule flaw in the teething bead could mean personal and emotional disaster for your friend, her baby, and for you.
If you do go ahead with the project, I would definitely go with clear boro, large enough that the baby cannot swallow it even if it gets off its chain or ring, and have your bead tested for stress before you give it to your friend. And, friend or not, I would consider having her sign a legal waiver acknowledging the potential hazards and clearing you from any liability.
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This.
Oh and, I would just mention as an old fuddy duddy who raised two kids 18 months apart there is no freakin' way I would ever put glass in a baby's mouth. Not only this, pacifiers are made of rubber that gives for a reason. You might ask her friend if she's considered what glass will do to the baby's developing teeth. Just a thought.
Yeesh. I'm sorry but my kids always came first. If they're trying to eat the necklace then either constantly take it away from them or....um....table the fashion for a year or two in favor of actually keeping the child safe.
To me that's a no brainer but I'm sure it makes me unpopular as Hell with new moms. Whatever. Children should come before fashion.
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2012-07-09, 1:45pm
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Personally, there's no way I would do that out of any glass. No way!
Karin said babies like to bash on things. I've been bashed in the nose by my own babies. Of course they didn't mean it, but it stings. Now imagine a big glass ring in the babies fist, bashing mom in the mouth or nose. Or they miss mom and bash themselves in the mouth or the nose.
I don't see pleasant things from this idea.
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2012-07-09, 1:47pm
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Nope. I wouldn't do it.
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2012-07-09, 4:39pm
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Yeah, no. Also are you talking about on a BHB mandrel right? The edges are never really totally smooth, you know what I mean? The 'hole' of the donut.
You could do it off mandrel so it's smooth, but that's just still scary, sometimes the most stable pieces can mysteriously break.
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2012-07-09, 4:47pm
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Adding my voice to the others. I would never give a baby something
glass to chew on. Even boro. It may be strong enough to stand up to
chewing, but I've never met the kid that didn't slam the crap out of
their chewies. Even if they were on mom's neck.
I would politely decline.
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2012-07-09, 6:27pm
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I say No, no, no.
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2012-07-09, 6:38pm
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Cool concept but not a safe one. I would not so this.
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2012-07-10, 4:10am
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oh hell no.... no glass and babies.. its common sense,, and the liability would be insane. nope wouldnt touch that one with a 10 ft pole
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2012-07-10, 5:42am
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I've got to say, it may be a popular thing, but it's also a stupid thing. I just can't fathom giving a glass object to a baby to put in his/her mouth.
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2012-07-10, 5:53am
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I vote for the no glass teething rings. My friends daughter makes these wonderful safe natural teething rings that seem to be all the rage right now.
http://www.etsy.com/shop/BrightLifeT...on_id=10949393
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2012-07-11, 7:16pm
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I am a licensed social worker and this is the XXXXXXXX ##### that I have ever heard of in my life. This is how children end up in the ER or worse with injuries that defy the imagination. If you do make it I hope that Children's Protective Services finds out and locks your ass up. I cannot imagine anyone with half of a brain even thinking that this is something to give to a teething child. First of all as everyone has said glass breaks. In addition to breaking the glass that we use has additives in it that would certainly leech into the child's system. The parent is not thinking clearly, teething is normal, put up with it or don't have children. If I sound angry, guess what I am.
The good thing is that at least you did ask for some information and I hope that we have made it clear that this is something that no one should do to an innocent child.
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2012-07-11, 7:25pm
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I'd say no to the glass!!!! Someone gave me a rubber teething necklace when I had Bean. It was a green rubber disc (that looks like jade) on a cord. Bean refused to chew it.
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2012-07-11, 7:33pm
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Wow! Can't believe anyone would even consider giving a glass teething ring to an infant. Maybe let him play with some razor blades next....
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2012-07-12, 4:16am
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I am a licensed social worker and this is the XXXXXXXX ##### that I have ever heard of in my life. This is how children end up in the ER or worse with injuries that defy the imagination. If you do make it I hope that Children's Protective Services finds out and locks your ass up. I cannot imagine anyone with half of a brain even thinking that this is something to give to a teething child. First of all as everyone has said glass breaks. In addition to breaking the glass that we use has additives in it that would certainly leech into the child's system. The parent is not thinking clearly, teething is normal, put up with it or don't have children. If I sound angry, guess what I am.
The good thing is that at least you did ask for some information and I hope that we have made it clear that this is something that no one should do to an innocent child.
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What she said.
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2012-07-12, 4:38am
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might as well wash the childs hair with battery acid too.
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2012-07-12, 5:41am
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Whoa! Quit being so nasty. She was uncomfortable about it, she asked, and she got an answer. She agreed with it. It's all good.
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2012-07-13, 1:27am
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If the child does sprout a tooth, he or she could break the tooth on the glass. I though that was why they made them rubbery to begin with. What is this mom thinking? Oh dear, have you had enough of all the "no-no-nos" yet? =)
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2012-07-13, 5:32am
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It just boggles my mind that it's a 'popular' thing, so that means more than one mom has done it or thought about it.
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2012-07-13, 5:33am
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lol @ the OP hasn't even posted back yet.
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2012-07-13, 6:13am
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I have a 14 months old daughter.... and I would NEVER EVER put anything in glass in her mouth!
That is a very bad idea....
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2012-07-13, 8:54am
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Teething rings used to be made of glass, silver, coral and other hard materials so it's not really an unusual request.
I'm kind of surprised at the tone of some of the responses. I'm not surprised the OP didn't come back to her thread. I'm not sure I would either.
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2012-07-13, 10:37am
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No I would not make a glass teething ring.
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2012-07-13, 5:24pm
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Quote:
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Teething rings used to be made of glass, silver, coral and other hard materials so it's not really an unusual request.
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They also used to make water pipes out of lead.
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2012-07-13, 7:17pm
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I'm hardly advocating for glass teething rings. I'm just saying they aren't unusual. They still make the rings from glass, sterling, mother of pearl and other hard materials. I'd rather use a natural material than plastic because they keep finding harmful stuff in plastics made for babies. Luckily, my kid is old enough not to need that kind of thing
It's nothing to be mean about, especially to someone asking for opinions.
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2012-07-13, 10:24pm
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They also used to make water pipes out of lead.
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they still do
i wouldnt do it, there's not need to bash the OP though, she's just asking
i think these are really unsafe and every time i see them i cringe
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