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2007-08-26, 2:04pm
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Help me design my new studio!
Hey folks.....
I'm moving from the garage into the house. YAY!!! The space I'm moving into is pretty small but should suffice...I hope!! Anyhow, it's about 6' x 4' and I need your suggestions on how to best maximize this space.
Any and all suggestions welcome. The only thing I think that is not negotiable is where the torch is located. I think this will have to face the corner as that's probably the only way I'll get a deep enough space without giving up too much elsewhere. That is....the right most corner as you're looking into the pic. That wall is the one that measures 4' across. The wall you don't really see is the one that's 6' long.
I'm getting rid of all the wooden braces you see. Those were holding up shelves (this room used to be the pantry )
OK....let's hear what you've got!!
-Yee
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2007-08-26, 2:40pm
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how are you going to do ventilation?? isn't that a stairway that the slant is creating?
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2007-08-26, 3:49pm
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are any of the wall and outside wall? what is on the other side of the walls?
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2007-08-26, 4:25pm
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I guess I should have expounded ....the long wall that you don't see very much actually backs onto the kitchen. I'll be teeing off the NG line that goes to the stove and right now the plan is to tie into the existing ventilation from the range hood on the other side of the wall.
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2007-08-26, 5:51pm
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Umm.... NO... You don't want to tee into stove vent duct because you will be blowing the combustion by products from torch and heavy metals that off gas from glass rods backwards into kitchen area....
You should have a separate, dedicated duct run from your hood directly outside... Minimum number of turns and should be at least 6 inch duct and even better if it is 8 inch duct...
Once you have ventilation situation worked out then you can do rest of design... If you cant get good dedicated ventilation, the location is not good for a mini-studio..
Dale
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2007-08-26, 6:00pm
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Hi Dale,
What if there are manual dampers (?) inline to close off the stove side?
-Yee
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2007-08-26, 8:01pm
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And what if you forget to change damper setting (either way)...
Besides, do you know the quality of ducting from stove to outside vent... Do you know if it will handle fan requirements of your lampwork vent hood... Do you have way to determine how many turns in duct and total length of duct so you can calculate static pressure of duct run.. Do you know how dirty and greasy inside of the duct is... Any build up of grease and dust and dirt in stove duct will inhibit air flow to a point where it may be completely useless.
Lots of things to consider...
Dale
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2007-08-26, 8:10pm
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the garage may be a much better place to be.
besides ventilation i highly suggest concrete floor, fireproof walls [hood]
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2007-08-30, 3:43am
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That looks like a VERY bad idea, there Yee..
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2007-08-30, 11:51am
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That is not a good space for your studio, I'm sorry to say. Even if you have an industrial range hood with a blower of the correct CFM, it still needs to have it's own dedicated duct for the reasons Dale states. Also, there is no place to get makeup air in a completely enclosed space like that. You need to find another place for your studio that has exterior walls and a non-combustible floor. Good luck.
-Diane
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2007-09-05, 6:16am
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I have read the threads so far. Most people think in terms of ducting as a system that pulls air "up" and "away" and "out". In a confined space as shown in your pictures it is possible to make a duct system that runs "down" "away" and "out". ducting does not have to be "round" you can create a plenum out of any shape. In you case i would suggest a 4" by 8" plenum that runs from the floor up the wall and turn over your bench. to a "mini hood". Assuming this is on the first level, run the duct to the fan unit in the crawl space and out to one of the vents located in the block foundation knock outs. Do not tie into any of the central air system ports. Not accounting for the slope in your ceiling space you have 208 cubic feet of space. A 300cfm explosion proof fan unit will do the job. Most people make the mistake of using non-explosion proof fan units, this practise is very dangerous! Not only are you ducting away contaminated air from unburned gasses, carbon monoxide and chemicals from fuming etc. you are also pulling away FUEL in the event it gets left on! A standard fan unit is not suitable for this situation as a spark generated by the motor fan unit will cause back flash. Also remember to ground your metal ducting as air passing thru a plenum will build up static electricity and can ignite unburned fuel. Being so close to the kitchen if you have a gas range you can plumb a "y" with a shut off valve to bring natural gas to your torch. Fire proof your walls with either cementuous board or sheet metal. If you have kids put a lock on the door! And always bleed your fuel and oxy lines after each use.
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2007-09-05, 7:07am
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good point char!!! so what is below the proposed space for your studio?
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2007-09-05, 12:34pm
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Thanks Char So far your response has been the only one with constructive criticism/suggestions. This room is on the main floor so below it is the "crawl space" underneath the house. Plumbing out should not be an issue at all. Now, I just need to figure out the whole plenum, fan, and ducting system and I'll be set
Thanks again. Still working on getting this appropriately set up.
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2007-09-05, 2:21pm
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Here is my "Corner"...
Yee, I'm sure your head is spinning after all the advice (which is really good BTW)! Don't get disheartened, I know you will figure out how to make your space safe and properly vented!
Once all that is done, here is what I've done with my corner area.
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2007-09-05, 8:06pm
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Just a note on Chars idea... Most people who build ventilation use round vs. rectangle duct is because of availability... How much rectangular duct does the local Lowes or Home Depot have....Most rectangular ducting you will have to probably purchase through local HVAC shop or have custom made.
Also a 4x8 inch rectangle duct had a cross section of 32 square inches... 8 inch round duct has a cross section of 50.25 square inches, therefor it has a larger capacity to carry the necessary volume of air to have successful ventilation...
Also the argument of explosion proof blower is moot as most blowers the size you need are induction type motors and have no capability to create an electrical arc to cause an explosion. IF you have enough loose/leaking gas to create an explosion you have bigger problem...
Dale
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2007-09-06, 8:38pm
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Yee,
Just an idea. One of the guys in here- has a vent system in the bench itself. Think like a register on the floor with a directional for the heat to blast out but you are working in reverse. Just a thought.
Jen
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2007-09-06, 9:00pm
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http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...t=31420&page=2
Brad Pearson! I knew I would remember sooner or later. Check it out, I think it is what Char! is talking about as well. Don't ask how long I searched for that thread.
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2008-12-29, 5:41pm
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My studio is finally done....well...95% complete. I still need to move back in but it's my studio and I have to say I'm totally loving it!!! Pics and info posted on my blog I hope anyone looking for inspiration on small studio spaces will get some good ideas from my setup.
Cheers!
-Yee
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2008-12-30, 1:36am
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Oh WOW! The lighting looks great! I love how you did the ventilation! I see many happy hours creating there. Congratulations!
Jen
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2008-12-30, 3:43am
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Yee it looks great! what a lovely lil space!
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