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2008-10-13, 7:59am
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PyronamixK
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Torch Comparisons on 10 LPM Oxygen Concentrator(s)
I have posted this data elsewhere before, but with photos here on LE. This should load faster.
I get asked very often how a particular torch will run on a 10 LPM concentrator (Regalia). The answer for many torches is "Great!" but I want to be able to provide a more detailed answer for anyone who would like it. I have spent the last couple of years or so aquiring torches to test for this purpose.
With my husband's help, I ran various torches on the Regalia and measured and photographed the flames. The flames were measured and photographed before the candles started feathering at the tips.
Flames can vary from torch to torch and different conditions can create different results. These numbers are just what I measured and are intended to give an idea of what you can expect when running a particular torch on this concentrator.
On some of the torches, my husband and I timed how long it took to cut through an 8mm rod of clear boro. Again, your mileage may vary. This is just meant to give an idea of what you can do.
* I have a Regalia and an Integra10. The Integra10 is the old version of the Regalia. They put out the same 10 LPM at 7-9 psi. So, just to keep things simple, on the torches that were run using both machines, I just labeled the pictures as torches being run on two Regalias. The torches listed are being run on a single Regalia unless otherwise noted.
Flame Measurements of Torches Running on 10 LPM, 8 psi concentrator (Regalia)
GTT Cricket
candle length: 1”
shoulder width: 1.150”
flame length: 14”
time to cut through 8mm boro rod: 14 seconds
Nortel Minor
candle length: 1” (longer center jet)
shoulder width: 0.850-1”
flame length: 16”
time to cut through 8mm boro rod: 16 seconds
Nortel Mega Minor
candle length: 1” (longer center jet)
shoulder width: 1.210”
flame length: 15”
time to cut through 8mm boro rod: 17 seconds
candle length: 0.800” (center jet even with rest)
shoulder width: 1.150”
flame length: 15”
Carlisle Mini CC
candle length: 0.800” (longer center jet)
shoulder width: 0.900”
flame length: 9”
time to cut through 8mm boro rod: 16 seconds
candle length: 0.575” (center jet more even with rest)
shoulder width: 0.800”
flame length: 13”
Knight Bullet (centerfire)
candle length: 0.500"
shoulder width: 0.850"
flame length: 13"
time to cut through 8mm boro rod: 13 seconds
Knight Bullet (centerfire and outerfire)
candle length: 0.250"
shoulder width: 1.500"
flame length: 13"
Knight Bullet (centerfire and outerfire) on two Regalias*
candle length: 0.625"
shoulder width: 1.700"
flame length: 20"
RedMax (large fire)
candle length: 0.200"
shoulder width: 1.750"
flame length: 12"
RedMax on Two Regalias* (large fire)
candle length: 0.500"
shoulder width: 1.950"
flame length: 20"
GTT Phantom (centerfire - same as Lynx)
candle length: 0.850"
shoulder width: 1.225", 1.150" with blue valve
flame length: 15"
GTT Phantom (centerfire and outerfire)
candle length: 0.350"
shoulder width: 1.600"
flame length: 16"
GTT Phantom (centerfire and outerfire) on Regalias at 10 and Integra10 at 8 LPM*
candle length: 0.625"
shoulder width: 1.850", 1.350" with blue valve
flame length: 22", 25" with blue valve thrust
Barracuda (centerfire – same as Piranha/Betta)
candle length: 0.650"
shoulder width: 0.850"
flame length: 13"
Barracuda (centerfire and outerfire)
candle length: 0.350"
shoulder width: 1.350"
flame length: 12"
Barracuda (centerfire and outerfire) on two Regalias*
candle length: 0.575"
shoulder width: 1.500"
flame length: 17"
Multiple Torches on Regalia
Two GTT Crickets
candle length: 0.450” each torch
shoulder width: 0.700” each torch
flame length: 12” each torch
Nortel Minor and Mega Minor
candle length: 0.300” each torch
shoulder width: 0.700” for Mega Minor, 0.775 for Minor
flame length: 10” for Mega Minor, 11” for Minor
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2008-10-13, 3:45pm
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I need more boro stuff
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That's interesting, minor can cut boro faster than mega minor...
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2008-10-22, 5:47am
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really interesting! Thanks
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2009-12-25, 9:40pm
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Kimberly,
I am wondering about results for the GTT - Lynx and that new Scorpion? I'm having a hard time deciding about an upgrade from my Cricket (which I DO love, but thinking of going a step or two up now).
Your results here are wonderful and VERY helpful. I know it took a lot of time to compile all of these torch results, and your hard work is appreciated.
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2009-12-29, 9:07pm
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Where have you posted it with photos?
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2009-12-31, 11:39pm
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PyronamixK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asimeral
Kimberly,
I am wondering about results for the GTT - Lynx and that new Scorpion? I'm having a hard time deciding about an upgrade from my Cricket (which I DO love, but thinking of going a step or two up now).
Your results here are wonderful and VERY helpful. I know it took a lot of time to compile all of these torch results, and your hard work is appreciated.
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Thank you.
I will have to find my measurements for the Scorpion, but the measurements for the Lynx are up there under the Phantom listing - the Lynx is the same as the centerfire of the Phantom.
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2009-12-31, 11:42pm
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PyronamixK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meker
Where have you posted it with photos?
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http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=100224
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2013-08-16, 2:24am
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Considering the Lynx and the Scorpion
Quote:
Originally Posted by asimeral
Kimberly,
I am wondering about results for the GTT - Lynx and that new Scorpion? I'm having a hard time deciding about an upgrade from my Cricket (which I DO love, but thinking of going a step or two up now).
Your results here are wonderful and VERY helpful. I know it took a lot of time to compile all of these torch results, and your hard work is appreciated.
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I am upgrading from my Cricket and considering the same two torches that you were, Asimeral. Which torch did you end up choosing? Are you happy with your choice?
Susan
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2013-08-17, 4:44am
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Maybe next you can compare times to make a standard design 1" diameter implosion boro marble with an EX15.
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