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2007-12-15, 1:58pm
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4 Hole Button Tutorial
A couple of people asked for a tutorial on 4 hole buttons with my new mandrel. I got together with Tracy (Bead _Bug), we made some buttons (and some bloopers) and took a bunch of pictures. Thanks so much for your help Tracy!
MANDRELS
If they are new, rough them up a little bit so that the bead release holds better. It seems to work better if you air dry rather than flame dry them, the bead release tends to crack less. Because you handle the tips of the mandrels when putting them into the handle, I’ve started wiping the bead release off of the very tip when I dip them. Again, it seems to help with the cracking (or maybe I need to get some new bead release!)
STARTING THE BUTTON
I found 2 methods for starting the buttons that seem to work well.
Method 1:
Put 3 of the mandrels into the handle and the O-ring and balance a piece or murrini or slice of glass on them where you will be making the button. (Alot of times, murrini that has white in it will devit on you)
Slide the 4th mandrel in to the handle and O-ring, being careful not to scrape the bead release on the glass.
Put dots onto the murrini in the spaces between each of the mandrels.
Melt the dots in and start wrapping a disc around the glass already on the mandrel. Finish and decorate as desired.
Method 2
Put 4 mandrels into the handle and O-ring. Wrap a layer of glass around all 4 mandrels. (Try for a more even wrap than this picture)
Melt the glass and using a sharp tool push the glass between the mandrels. Add dots of glass between the mandrels and continue pushing the glass until the center of the button is filled in.
Wrap additional glass around the mandrels to build the button.
FINISHING THE BUTTON
Let the button cool a little bit.
Slide the O-Ring off of the mandrels.
Push the mandrels towards the head of the handle.
Use a pair of pliers (I like bent nose pliers but any kind works) to grab one or two of the mandrels, slowly working the mandrels out of the handle. Sometimes you can just hold the handle with the button down and it almost falls out - so do it over a table) Remove the mandrels completely from the handle and put the button in the kiln.
That’s it – you’re done!
The third one down shows what not to do! It was not cool enough as I took it off and one of the mandrels shifted.
Making a 2 hole button is pretty much the same process – they are a little easier to start though.
Let me know if you have any questions and practise - it can be a little frustrating getting these started.
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2007-12-15, 2:28pm
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Thanks for the tutorial I've been wondering how to make button
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2007-12-15, 4:46pm
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Thank you for this great tutorial! I needed it.
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2007-12-15, 11:53pm
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I made a button and I think it turned out pretty good for a first one. It was so much fun!
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2007-12-16, 1:06am
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this is a great tut! I looked at the title and it sounded really dirty..... haha...
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WASHERS & TOPPERS - layering components for interchangeable glass topper and to use in other jewelry/metalwork.:
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2007-12-16, 9:21am
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This is some of Tracy's and my buttons
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2007-12-18, 9:35am
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great TUT - cannot wait till you make more - I want to play too - look at those buttons - great job - V
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2007-12-18, 9:42am
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Wow, thanks for the tut, looks hard to do. I guess alot of practice is needed.
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2007-12-20, 12:17pm
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Where do you get the mandrels and set up for buttons?
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2007-12-21, 5:07am
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Anyone need some spacers?
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Verre, You can get them from BJJunk (Barb). The wonderful thing about Barb's mandrel holder is that you can make or purchase as many sets of mandrels as you like. It doesn't limit you to just a few fixed button mandrels.
Teena, They arn't any harder to do that a disk bead if you use the chip method of making them. After two crazy looking buttons the rest have looked great.
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2008-01-08, 6:11am
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I got my set in yesterday so I'll be playing with it today! Woohoo!
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2008-01-08, 10:47am
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I got mine yesterday. Now, if I can just get the time!
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2008-01-08, 11:05am
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Just made my first one! I made a 2-hole one to start off with! LOL! We'll see how it turns out later. It was way easier making these than the shank buttons I've been making! LOL!
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2008-01-09, 2:28pm
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re-read this - made a button I am very happy with, but put the whole thing into the kiln and melted my 0-rings - won't do that again - argggggggggggggg - V
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2008-01-09, 3:54pm
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I love this tool and have made about 3 buttons.
I just cut some more 4" mandrels so I can make more at a time. It's really easy to use, easy to get the mandrels off and makes beautiful buttons. I'm so glad I got it.
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2008-01-10, 8:05am
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I'm glad you are liking the button mandrel! Are there parts of the tutorial that were hard to follow or what have you found that works good for you? I need to start sending directions when people buy them.
And lets see some pictures!
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2008-01-10, 11:31am
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Anyone need some spacers?
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I agree lets see some photos!
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2008-01-10, 6:24pm
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I received my tool yesterday and just had a chance to work with it today. I didn't plan ahead so I installed two mandrels and dipped it just before I used it (I use Fusion bead release). This worked out really well! I made two buttons - the two-hole buttons are really easy!
If they look good I'll post some pics tomorrow
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2008-01-11, 1:36pm
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Barb,
My button tool arrived. Thanks for the great TUT, now I know what to do with all the murrini I have accumulated. Must get torching.
Kris
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2008-01-21, 12:08pm
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Ok, here a couple that made it! They are already attached to the scarflettes! The "beach" one is made with a base of ivory and shards attached here and there with some amber dots here and there. The 2nd one is rubino, white and amethyst. I made some others but they didn't survive, I guess to thin on one and the other one chipped while I was cleaning it! I love this tool!! Thanks so much for making it!!
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2008-01-29, 6:21pm
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Barb, Here is my 1st button (thanks for the demo) These are fun to make.
Nice Buttons Anne and Barb!
Dawn
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2008-01-30, 12:22pm
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Nice buttons! I keep looking at the knitted stuff and think I need to learn how to do that too (probably won't happen though). Some of my friends have used these buttons on felted purses.
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2013-12-14, 6:20pm
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I finally got the courage to try making my first button with your button mandrel. I will let you know how it turned out.
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Very clever tool! and great tutorial.
Thank you!!
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