|
Tips, Techniques, and Questions -- Technical questions or tips |
2010-04-27, 7:03am
|
|
working to pay for glass
|
|
Join Date: Sep 23, 2009
Location: Ardrossan Alberta Canada
Posts: 248
|
|
bead release
another stupid question
I am sure it has been asked before but here goes again
1st can you add water to bead release ? because ....what i have left seems really thick and is now cracking off the mandrel in the middle of something good and causing intense grief !
2.do you use different bead release for BORO
3.how do you get it all out of clear beads ?
4.is there a better bead release for clear ?
5. the release i am using seems real thick and it makes it hard to use a bead roller any suggestions for bead release ?
|
2010-04-27, 9:10am
|
|
Hobby Junkie
|
|
Join Date: Dec 08, 2009
Location: Perkasie, PA
Posts: 1,967
|
|
Heck yes! You can thin it! I like mine really thin, especially for boro (or bead rollers). I use fusion for everything. Fusion is great because it cleans out so easy. For big holes I just dunk it in water and swipe it with a Qtip (or little brush). For little holes, I just run a thin diamond bit through it with my dremmel. I'm lazy so quick is best for me! The hole has a frosted look (I think it does with any bead release). If you don't like it, just brush in a thin coat of Renaissance wax and that shines it up.
__________________
Cori C-R
PS - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-04-27, 10:07am
|
|
working to pay for glass
|
|
Join Date: Sep 23, 2009
Location: Ardrossan Alberta Canada
Posts: 248
|
|
where to i get this fusion
i have been using bucket o mud and sludge and they are both really thick
and i am always losing afew beads a night due to release failure and it is always the ones i really liked
|
2010-04-27, 12:18pm
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 18, 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,528
|
|
I have seen where it was recommended to only use distilled water to thin release, which is what I use.
Cheers
Kym
|
2010-04-27, 12:36pm
|
|
Hobby Junkie
|
|
Join Date: Dec 08, 2009
Location: Perkasie, PA
Posts: 1,967
|
|
I order Fusion through Wale Apparatus but many places sell it. I don't use distilled water just plain old tap water and I've never had any issues. Been doing it for years. I tried other releases and hated them.
__________________
Cori C-R
PS - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-04-27, 12:50pm
|
|
working to pay for glass
|
|
Join Date: Sep 23, 2009
Location: Ardrossan Alberta Canada
Posts: 248
|
|
so i just ordered some fusion from flamedame.... but it seems there is more then one
|
2010-04-27, 12:59pm
|
|
Hobby Junkie
|
|
Join Date: Dec 08, 2009
Location: Perkasie, PA
Posts: 1,967
|
|
Just different varieties of the same stuff (thicker, thinner, etc). Don't be afraid to dump some water in it if you want it thinner than it comes. If you want it thicker, leave the lid off overnight, then cap it and shake it up in the morning. You'll love it. It flame dries awesomely! I dip it and put it right into the heat of the flame. No wait!
__________________
Cori C-R
PS - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-04-27, 1:05pm
|
|
working to pay for glass
|
|
Join Date: Sep 23, 2009
Location: Ardrossan Alberta Canada
Posts: 248
|
|
oh good will try it
|
2010-04-27, 1:11pm
|
|
one day at a time
|
|
Join Date: Jun 27, 2005
Location: We are MOVING!!!
Posts: 8,319
|
|
Fusion is good, you won't be disappointed. It's pretty smooth textured and beads come off easy. That is the one I use for boro. My favorite for soft glass is KRAG Mudd, which is even smoother and the best for transparent beads, IMHO.
http://www.kittrellriffkind.com/krag_mudd.php
This release is awesome, and so smooth. I make a lot of transparent beads, so I use this one, clean with a BeadDreamer bit and Dremel Minimite = perfect holes.
__________________
You live in a world of money. Money means choices. No money, no choices. Welcome to reality.
Melody (Marlee Matlin) from Switched at Birth
|
2010-04-27, 2:19pm
|
|
working to pay for glass
|
|
Join Date: Sep 23, 2009
Location: Ardrossan Alberta Canada
Posts: 248
|
|
is krag mudd same as bucket of mudd ?
|
2010-04-27, 2:29pm
|
|
MacGalver
|
|
Join Date: Oct 15, 2006
Posts: 9,927
|
|
Nope, not the same! But Bucket of Mudd is a good product too, you just have to get it to the right consistency. Basically most of the bead releases are slighlty different and everybody has their own favorite.
When you add water, don't add very much at once, it is easy to over thin the bead release. If that does happen, just leave the container with the lid off for a day or so and it will thicken back up. Don't be afraid to experiment!
Jo
__________________
Jo
Frit Diva website To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-04-27, 5:17pm
|
|
working to pay for glass
|
|
Join Date: Sep 23, 2009
Location: Ardrossan Alberta Canada
Posts: 248
|
|
THanks jo
|
2010-04-27, 5:51pm
|
|
Certified Thread Killer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 11, 2008
Location: Disneyland is my backyard
Posts: 501
|
|
I just got some Super Blue Sludge. it seems a little thick for me. I'm grateful for the "distilled" water hint. I'll add a teaspoon or two and see what happens. I like any release that doesn't have a ton of graphite in it. EW black and messy!
__________________
~Rachelle To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-04-27, 9:02pm
|
|
working to pay for glass
|
|
Join Date: Sep 23, 2009
Location: Ardrossan Alberta Canada
Posts: 248
|
|
i also have the blue sludge and it is better thinned out but i am not a huge fan either
i have not found a favorite yet .....
|
2010-04-27, 10:49pm
|
|
one day at a time
|
|
Join Date: Jun 27, 2005
Location: We are MOVING!!!
Posts: 8,319
|
|
The KRAG Mudd is almost black, and you don't want to get it on good clothes, but it's a dream. But if you are going to be making large beads and doing a lot of tugging, then the Fusion is stronger likely. I have made big hole beads with the KRAG and the holes are so smooth inside compared to the other releases I've tried. Less cleaning and buffing.
__________________
You live in a world of money. Money means choices. No money, no choices. Welcome to reality.
Melody (Marlee Matlin) from Switched at Birth
|
2010-04-27, 11:18pm
|
|
MacGalver
|
|
Join Date: Oct 15, 2006
Posts: 9,927
|
|
Lisi, where do you buy the KRAG Mudd? There's no pricing or anything on their website...
Jo
__________________
Jo
Frit Diva website To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
2010-04-28, 3:15am
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 18, 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,528
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BellaBean
I order Fusion through Wale Apparatus but many places sell it. I don't use distilled water just plain old tap water and I've never had any issues. Been doing it for years. I tried other releases and hated them.
|
You could be right for most release but I do think it makes a difference with SmoothN'Tuff. I do it to be safe because our water here is very hard. On the other hand I have mixed releases ad hoc nevermind the brand etc. Seems to work ok too.
Kym
|
2010-04-28, 3:39am
|
|
BeadsonCypress
|
|
Join Date: Jan 05, 2007
Location: Jersey Shore - by AC
Posts: 2,662
|
|
Believe it or not, I bought some inexpensive bead release from Devardi (it's blue) kind of a generic bead release (16 oz for like $13.00 if I remember correctly). What I like is that when you dip it (yes I have thinned it a little) it's blue. I can immediately put it to the flame (cool flame) and it will turn black/grey, then white. When it turns white it's ready to go! Great for those of us who have a tendency to wait until the last minute to dip mandrels. That being said I have dipped them and let them set on my workbench for weeks....I really like the stuff.
__________________
Beads on Cypress (Susan Boyce)
7+ years and growing - Mini-CC and O2 generator
|
2010-04-28, 9:32am
|
|
Happiness is....
|
|
Join Date: Nov 21, 2005
Location: MI.
Posts: 1,110
|
|
I dipped mandrels in Smooth-n-Tuff, over a year ago. didn't care for the mandrels, so I let them sit in a glass container for a long time. Took them to a demo this past weekend, and the other ladies thought they were just fine. They have a small amount of rust on them, but when heated up in the flame that disappears. I've been using fusion since I started working.
__________________
Karen To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
A Crickett and 2 5lp oxycons
|
2010-04-28, 10:46am
|
|
one day at a time
|
|
Join Date: Jun 27, 2005
Location: We are MOVING!!!
Posts: 8,319
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by grrlartist
Lisi, where do you buy the KRAG Mudd? There's no pricing or anything on their website...
Jo
|
You will need to call them to order it and get the pricing and shipping info. I think I paid $32 plus shipping for the 16 oz tub. Worth every penny, and I am getting close to needing to order more.
__________________
You live in a world of money. Money means choices. No money, no choices. Welcome to reality.
Melody (Marlee Matlin) from Switched at Birth
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:54pm.
|