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Old 2007-01-23, 11:58am
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Once it's been compiled and indexed (and all permissions have been granted) I can host a pdf version
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I was trying to think of how else these could be used to generate funds, keep the original intent agreed to with the creators, and not be a time issue for Corri and Jason. I'm not coming up with much. As good as I can think is on someone's site for access after a donation is made, or someone else mailing the CD's. But proof of a donation is still an issue.

Guess it's time to let the idea fade away.
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Old 2007-01-23, 3:20pm
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I don't think it should fade away.
I can make it work.
I PM'd Elizabeth and Corri.
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Karen have you heard back from CorriDawn ? I can get it all to you if you think you want to tackle contacting all the "owners" of the tutorials. When I took this on I had no idea that I would fall and break my tail bone and my daughter would decide she wanted to plan a wedding. Had I forseen all that I would not have taken it on, but then again I never dreamed it would take so long to get them. I know there is a great one that Lavender Creek sent me that had not been published at that time. I still don't think it has. I can't imagine the "Owners" minding that we combine them for distribution for free since they have already made most of them available elsewhere. I wish this were still a sticky at least until we figure out where it is going. Or maybe not being a sticky is telling us something...
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Old 2007-01-25, 8:51am
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Corri emailed me and I am still eagerly waiting to hear back from her with a
yes or no. As soon as I have the files in my hand, I can go over them and see what I have to work with. Unless it's all in Sanskrit or ancient Babalonian, it shouldn't be that hard.

Until I get them though, I am siting here with my hand planted firmly against my tuchas.



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Karen have you heard back from CorriDawn ? I can get it all to you if you think you want to tackle contacting all the "owners" of the tutorials. When I took this on I had no idea that I would fall and break my tail bone and my daughter would decide she wanted to plan a wedding. Had I forseen all that I would not have taken it on, but then again I never dreamed it would take so long to get them. I know there is a great one that Lavender Creek sent me that had not been published at that time. I still don't think it has. I can't imagine the "Owners" minding that we combine them for distribution for free since they have already made most of them available elsewhere. I wish this were still a sticky at least until we figure out where it is going. Or maybe not being a sticky is telling us something...
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Old 2007-01-25, 10:10am
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Corri emailed me and I am still eagerly waiting to hear back from her with a
yes or no. As soon as I have the files in my hand, I can go over them and see what I have to work with. Unless it's all in Sanskrit or ancient Babalonian, it shouldn't be that hard.

Until I get them though, I am siting here with my hand planted firmly against my tuchas.
Who are you wanting to send them to you me or Corri?

(stop wiggling your fingers !!)
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Old 2007-01-25, 10:24am
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Didn't some of the folks submit floral tutorials to this tutorial compilation after the "other site" floral booklet fell through? I can't do good florals and could certainly use the help
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I would still love to see the tutorials.
If there is any way I can help, let me know
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Who are you wanting to send them to you me or Corri?

(stop wiggling your fingers !!)
I don't know who is officially in charge of this - so at this point I am
sitting firmly on my shoulders waiting for anyone to answer.

...and yes - I think that there are more than enough florals tutorials
available here to get a florals section. I can't guarentee anything
since at this point I'm not in the trenches - but if I can get
written approvals from the tutorials authors, I want to put this all
into a spiral bound softcover book and have it available within
a few weeks. (spiral bound is the way to go for tutorial books, since
they lay flat and you can look at them while torching).
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Old 2007-01-25, 12:41pm
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Old 2007-01-25, 2:08pm
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Karen ---- YOU ROCK
Wait till I put it together - then you can congratulate me.

All I can say in my own defense is that I am a really stubborn
SOB and I'm won't let it sit and grow mold. If I think that the
tutorials that are given to me are unworkable I WILL tell everybody.
However if I think it's good to go, I will make it work. And quickly.
Been there done this before.

I've been thinking of this along the lines of "what would I like to see
in a tutorials book" and I have a pretty good idea how this will be
presented. I personally hate ebooks and pdf files, because I want
to have something to put in front of me while I work, and have
the ability to make notes in the margins too.

My goal is to make this into a full color paperback book with a spiral
binding so it lays flat. I also want to include a few pages in the
back for advertising and coupons. The approximate price of a book
like this would be around $20-30, but if it goes over 100 pages that could
go higher than that. Again - this would have to be a value packed
book with enough tutorials and info (both old and new) to make it
worth that price. It would have to be something that I PERSONALLY
would be willing to buy.

A significant chunk of that would be going back to LE. I do not plan on
making any money on this myself (with the exception of any operating
expenses and perhaps skimming some money of the top to pay for a few
cappuccinos from Starbucks if I have to work past midnight. Indulge me).

Again - the quality of the book would depend entirely on the material I
am given to work with - if the stuff is blurry and crappy it won't print
well, and I won't work with it (and I WILL tell everyone why).
However, if it is decent quality, and I am able to secure written authorization
from the authors of the tutorials to present it in a book format for LE
than it can be accomplished fairly quickly.

And regarding getting it out to people, like I told others - I've managed MANY
bulk buys (last one ran over $10,000) and when any problems came up any
complaints were dealt with in a timely fashion. No one was left hanging, and
all problems were resolved to everyone's satisfaction. My communication skills
border on obsessive - I made sure everybody knew from minute to minute what
was going on. That's how you run things like this. Treat customers like you are
stalking them and everybody's happy.

Again....just sittin' 'round waiting for something to come my way......
Twiddle dee dee........
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I don't know who is officially in charge of this - so at this point I am
sitting firmly on my shoulders waiting for anyone to answer.You are now !!! hahahaha

...and yes - I think that there are more than enough florals tutorials
available here to get a florals section. I can't guarentee anything
since at this point I'm not in the trenchesOh, you are in the trenches you jumped in with both feet !! haha - but if I can get
written approvals from the tutorials authors, I want to put this all
into a spiral bound softcover book and have it available within
a few weeks. (spiral bound is the way to go for tutorial books, since
they lay flat and you can look at them while torching).
I am going to send you what I have. As I stated before I tried PM'n, emailing, everything I knew to get tutorials. What I am sending Karen is what I was provided with. She might can get more out of people than I can who knows. All I can say is Good Luck and Thank You !!
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Old 2007-01-26, 12:18am
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Karen, I'm so glad you are taking the ball and running with it! I would have hated to see the project fold when there was so much interest and enthusiasm. I don't know how I could help (computer dork, unfortunately) but I will be cheering vigorously from the sidelines...

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I kinda lost interest after waiting for awhile, but if the tut contained some of the floral tuts that were supposed to be published before, then I'm interested again!

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I want one I have been stalking this thread since it started so I sure hope something will come of it soon
I sure enjoy the tutorials on here but agree I would love to have something that I don't have to print out and keep spending money on ink it would sure be worth the money
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Karen, you totally rock!
Well, I'm not making any promises yet - but if I pull this off
(and if I do a good job and you're all happy with me)
you all can RAOGK me till the cows come home.

...and of course, if I screw it up - well, I better get some
RAOGK packages ready to send to all of you

Hee, hee, hee - looking forward to the challenge. I've got
3 out of the 4 zipped files - waiting on one of them.
I don't want to look until everything is in front of me.

Also - if anybody has been "HOLDING OUT" on tutorials,
nows the time to send them to me.

I'd prefer them in an MS Word format - just because I can
very easily edit that and THEN change it into a PDF file for uploading to the
printers.

I'd also like for the people here that do any selling to start thinking of
what they would like to see for perhaps some advertising space in
the back of the book. Unless I encounter objections or problems, I'd
like to have vendor ads, coupons, guild info and anything else I
can dream up with my pretty red head.

I'm going to try and get to it tomorrow and see what I have in my hands
and then report back to everyone MY opinion of what we actually have,
what we need and what the time frame will be.

Oh, and just to throw a monkey wrench into all this crap, FYI - my internet
provider is running sanity checks (they shut down the system for no reason
and wait to see how f%$#cking crazy we all become) so if you don't hear
from me for a few days, it ain't cause there's any love lost. Just keep a mental
picture of me "removing unwanted bodily hair" (ripping the hair out of my head)
while I wait for Adelphia to get their shit together.
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Do you think that is why #1 won't go through???

Oh, and just to throw a monkey wrench into all this crap, FYI - my internet
provider is running sanity checks (they shut down the system for no reason
and wait to see how f%$#cking crazy we all become) so if you don't hear
from me for a few days, it ain't cause there's any love lost. Just keep a mental
picture of me "removing unwanted bodily hair" (ripping the hair out of my head)
while I wait for Adelphia to get their shit together.
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Karen, thank you so much for helping out with this project! I'm excited!

Can we know what will be on the book before we buy it? (When its done of course).

What about the floral book that never happen, can we maybe get the authors to resubmit their tutorial to this project instead? It will be a great hit! Just a thought. I really look forward for that book. I love floral beads.
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Karen, thank you so much for helping out with this project! I'm excited!

Can we know what will be on the book before we buy it? (When its done of course).

What about the floral book that never happen, can we maybe get the authors to resubmit their tutorial to this project instead? It will be a great hit! Just a thought. I really look forward for that book. I love floral beads.
Oh, absolutely. Before it hits the presses, I will submit an index page with a list of all the tutorials and their authors.

As for the florals book, and the people that submitted their tutorials to
Ms. T - I'm kinda not wanting to touch those with a 10 foot pole.
If they were promised for a book (whether or not that book ever materializes)
than I could be opening up a can of worms using the same tutorials.

Anyone submitting their tutorials would have to sign and send to me legal
paperwork (forthcoming) stating that their tutorials are not submitted to
anyone else, not included in any books, and are their own work.
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Hi Karen! Thanks for the reply! (((hugs)))

I just thought I mention it, because some people had mention it in some thread that they would love to submit it to other production instead. (Forgive my Engrish), I cant remember what thread, its not recently. I swear at least a couple people said that. I cant remember.

Thanks so much for doing this my dear! (((hugs))).
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I need the following people to contact me about these tutorials they submitted
to the LE tutorials book:

Joanna Mueller Shards tutorial
Kandice Seeber raised daisy flower
Karin - photoshop tutorial
Lynn - drawer pull tute
Mary Moth Swirlie/Implosion beads/Riveted bead caps/Bleeding heart tutorial
Kimberly twisty tutorial
Pricilla Bullard fusing
Tink riveted beads tutorial
2heartsmikes heart tute
Purplelilyone -Coral & dragonfly pendant
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So, this will be first time only tutorials? Not just ones that people have rights to continue to distribute? And does published online count?
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So, this will be first time only tutorials? Not just ones that people have rights to continue to distribute? And does published online count?
I'll have to know what you're refering to before I can answer that. Usually
when you publish elsewhere, THEY retain the right to republish your work
unless your contract with them states otherwise. I would check and see with
whomever you previously published your work as to how it is worded.

If it's a tutorial (for example) of some technique that you published on your
own website, then I have no problem adding it in. I'm a little unclear as to what
you mean when you say "ones that people have the rights to continue to distribute".
If it belongs to you, and you are the writer and hold the copyright and want to include
it, it should not be a problem. Just make sure that I am aware of the pertinent details
so that I can investigate and make
sure that we are not jeopardizing the book or the forum by publishing work
that we are not legally in the clear to publish.

If we will be using your tutorials in the book, then you will be required to sign
a document stating that the tutorial is your own work and does not appear in
other publications and that you approve of it being used in this book. The
copyright for the tutorial will remain with the author. Anyone who does not
have the paperwork in to me by the required date will have their tutorial
removed from the book before publishing.
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By-the-by, this is also a great opportunity for any of you that
sell glass products online (example: frit). If you want to send me
a tutorial on how to best use a product that you sell, I will be glad
to include it (I mean, provided it's not crappy - you need to include
pictures and steps. Not just text).
I still am lacking in a good tutorial on making an encased frit bead
and I KNOW that there are many people selling frit here.
You are welcome to slap as many logos, website addresses and other
garbage on your tutorial to showcase your store.
(If it was me, I'd include a special "code #" in the tutorial:
example - "if you would like to order "rainbow junkie" frit, mention
code #LE12345 when ordering and recieve an extra 10% off your order"
).

I'm also lacking in lots of good boro tutorials, so if anyone wants to
put some of those together, that would be great to add.


I'm also developing a cool-tools section, and I got a GREAT tutorial
from Bobby yesterday.

Again, most of these tutorials are ALREADY HERE on this forum, so
there probably won't be any major surprises - however, it's going
to be wonderful to have them all in a nice and easy book - spiral bound so it
lies flat so you can look at it while torching. I'll probably be adding in some great
info from manufacturers too, and I'll make sure and include a few blank lined pages
in the back for jotting down notes.
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I'm a little confused about the new guidelines. I'm thinking in general the ones I have in mind won't be worth submitting (not able or willing to tweek them and some simply aren't new concepts). But I was just positive that I've read often contracts include first right of publishing and that the author can retain the rights after that.

When this first started I thought it was more about compiling everything we could from LE users and having a way to donate back to LE and get these tutorials in a printed/printable form. I think that is why you have the ones donated that you have in the unusable pile.

It seems to be headed the published book route. So it sounds like it is going to contain new materials such as would be in any other book but I'm confused about not published before, except for on our own sites but then you say and here on LE. In other words, just not work that goes against another contract? For example I had talked before about a kaleidoscope tutorial. Even if I create one, there is really nothing new in kaleidoscopes that isn't published all over the place so it really won't fit in the new direction as I'm reading it. So I was wondering from the purchasing end (Whoo hoo a new $30 book with all new stuff) and the creating end (probably not worth tweeking what I had to offer).
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