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Old 2012-04-10, 8:05pm
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Maybe somebody can help me. Does the following testing for a 12mm soft glass bead seem extreme?

Drop cold beads into boiling water for 5 minutes, them in ice water for 5 minutes and then dropped four inches onto a steel plate.



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Mike! You forgot to add the radiation part of the test! LOL
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Ummm ... I'm thinkin' maybe just maybe a tad extreme

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Old 2012-04-10, 9:12pm
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oh shucks, I don't have any steel plates around the place. I will have to order one so I can assure my customers that MY beads are TOUGH!
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Old 2012-04-10, 9:13pm
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Maybe somebody can help me. Does the following testing for a 12mm soft glass bead seem extreme?

Drop cold beads into boiling water for 5 minutes, them in ice water for 5 minutes and then dropped four inches onto a steel plate.



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Old 2012-04-10, 9:35pm
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No. But, don't you trust your annealer?

Now a laser beam test, might be extreme.

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Old 2012-04-10, 9:44pm
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And then smash it with a hammer! If it survives it was meant to be....
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I just hope when I collapse on my high tech steel plate kitchen floor no one throws ice water on my burns after I test the bead necklace I'm wearing with radiation.........

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Old 2012-04-10, 10:16pm
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I do this all the time......not..LOL
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Old 2012-04-10, 10:59pm
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So I assume what everyone is saying is that is an insane test for glass beads?

What would you do if somebody wanted you to make 10,000 beads that had to pass that test.

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Old 2012-04-10, 11:08pm
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LMAO haha..
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Old 2012-04-10, 11:44pm
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So I assume what everyone is saying is that is an insane test for glass beads?

What would you do if somebody wanted you to make 10,000 beads that had to pass that test.

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Only 10,000? I'm sure you could make far more than that if you had a stack of people working for you ...
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Old 2012-04-11, 12:16am
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Now that is extreme !!

If the bead doesn't crack after a week, it's usually good I have never had any customers tell me my beads have cracked after a while.

Just use the usual kiln cycle you have and trust and you'll be fine.
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Old 2012-04-11, 12:20am
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Only 10,000? And of course, they expect a quantity discount and free shipping and oh yeah, same day shipping too...

Me? Bitter about the newest eBay seller changes? Not at ALL....
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I would tell that person to go to China to get 10,000 beads. They may as well buy 10,000 metal washers intstead if they want to treat their jewelry that rough. IMO
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i have a bad feeling my beads wouldn't pass the rad test.

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I have tested beads like this, except I went from the freezer into hot water.
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Now that is extreme !!

If the bead doesn't crack after a week, it's usually good I have never had any customers tell me my beads have cracked after a while.

Just use the usual kiln cycle you have and trust and you'll be fine.
Beads can crack months or even years after they are made
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So why are we discussing this Mike? Are you sending 10000 beads to an Antarctica designer by way of Ethiopia in the trusted hands of "slippery Pete" my UPS guy? He makes sure he uses a lot of hand lotion on his route to me. He also eats a lot of cheeseburgers.
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So I assume what everyone is saying is that is an insane test for glass beads?

What would you do if somebody wanted you to make 10,000 beads that had to pass that test.

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Suggest they have their head examined!
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Tell them your beads are made from a somewhat fragile silica compound called "glass", & that glass should be treated with care & fondled often.
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Old 2012-04-11, 8:12am
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In retrospect, the funniest part of this whole thing is the 4" drop. 4 inches? 4 FEET might be a challenge, but if they didn't explode the minute you went from the heat to the ice a 4 inch drop shouldn't matter.

The big challenge to me would be the quantity - that's just insane! Why WOULDN'T a person order something like that from China? How much actually artistry could you POSSIBLY be looking for in a beed in a lot of 10,000? And why insist on soft glass?

This person is clearly delusional! But there's a lot of that going around - I had an eBay customer ask me if she thought it would be okay if her baby teethed on one of my glass lanyards. Uh, NO!!! In fact, HELL NO!!!
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Ummmm..........they're glass. I'm sure you can get them to break at some point no matter what you do to them. Do we need to start issuing guarantees that our beads will outlive their new owners? What if we put the customer in boiling water, then ice water, the drop them off a building........would they still be intact? Are they guaranteed immortality? I rather think NOT! What about the glasses in my kitchen cabinet.......I didn't get any guarantees that they wouldn't break! OMG! And here I am DRINKING from them! Guess what folks..........EVERYTHING BREAKS at some point! Otherwise we wouldn't have to have glue! Now just think of all those glue manufacturers going out of business.......

Oh, and by the way, we spend how many thousands of dollars on computers and other electronic gadgets that last us for a few years if we're lucky........and someone wants a guarantee on a bead they are going to spend $5-$50 bucks on? Just sayin'.........
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If I am not mistaken, Grace Beads has this on her etsy site - she says out of many lampworkers beads, her's were the only one's to pass the test. A bit vague on who did the test.

http://www.etsy.com/people/gracebeads
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Oops.......after my rant I realized that DIAMONDS are FOREVER........got that guys?
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Old 2012-04-11, 8:55am
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Perhaps they should be using those beads as filler in Fukushima.....
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Old 2012-04-11, 8:58am
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Good point Deb.

I fail to see why this type of test is necessary for ornamental jewelry beads.
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