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2007-10-04, 3:49pm
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what technique is this?
its by Lisa Atchison
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2007-10-04, 5:22pm
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I believe Michael Barley teaches this - "baleen" technique.
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2007-10-04, 9:12pm
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Cool!!! I'm taking a class with Michael next month!
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2007-10-05, 4:26am
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I get a similar effect by applying the colors on the mandrel, putting clear in between each row, DO NO melt in, then more clea to encase. Then I mash! and add more clear....This one looks like it is half clear and half transparent yellow or brown??
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2007-10-05, 4:55am
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I agree - Michael Barley technique. And he does teach this in class. If you ever get a chance to take a class with him - JUMP ON IT! I had so much fun, and learned so much.
My beads were IMMEDIATELY improved after his class.
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2007-10-05, 7:10am
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Unless you're talking about the electroforming on the bead. If it's the copper/metallic part that you like, search the forums for electoforming.
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2007-11-15, 7:28am
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I'd like to learn this as well - Unfortunately Michael Barley's schedule isn't taking him to Florida any time soon... I have an idea for adapting it to borosilicate.
Anyone care to share? I'm all ears =)
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2007-11-15, 9:08am
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I read somewhere that Michael said he had an "Aha" when he was trying to make baleen and it involved an knife.
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2007-11-15, 10:05am
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Margaret Zinser has a tut on her website for something similar. That is one nice bead..
Paula
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2007-11-15, 10:43am
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Thanks for that tip! It's not what I was looking for (I want to make belly scales for a dragon), but it's something else I was looking for.
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2007-12-29, 5:46pm
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In one of the bead magazine feature articles on Michael Barley, he says how he does that. As far as I remember, he cuts the color with a razor blade in multiple cuts and covers it with transparent. There have been two feature articles on him recently; one in Bead and Button and the other in Beadwork.
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2007-12-29, 6:21pm
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That isn't the Barley method, his don't show through to the core. I know this because I have taken his class. More likely this is done with clear glass as said above. Michael starts with a clear base but then covers it with white, ivory or some other color.
This is a guess but I think this has a transparent base, topped with an encased white ribbon cane. Then transparent color encasing. Topped off by electroforning.
He does use a razor blade to make the cuts. I have used the blade to do these beads.
As you can see these arn't transparent to the core of the bead like the one above.
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2007-12-29, 6:27pm
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If you put down transparent first, then a layer of opaque, then cut and encased, you might be able to get an effect like that.
I believe that the best way to find out is to experiment.
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2007-12-29, 7:42pm
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Yep, you get the effect like that if you're more aggressive with your cuts and if your encasing of opaque is thin. I took his class, too.
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2007-12-29, 8:38pm
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You are right you could get that if you cut into a clear. The cuts are just so wide is why I don't think they are cuts.
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2008-01-05, 6:11pm
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I have been trying to learn this technique based on the information in this thread with no luck at all. I've tried doing a transparent base with a think stripe of some opaque and then creasing lines in it with a razor and then putting clear or a light transparent over it. I don't get anything close to this kind of look. I've tried cutting in really deep and just can't get it. I wish I could take a Michael Barley class. He doesn't teach anywhere even close to me or I would take it in a heartbeat. I see so many beads here that are made from his techniques. What an awesome class that must be. So, if anyone understands this technique and can elaborate a little more on how to do it or anything even close to it, I would really appreciate it. I've been trying even before I saw this thread to practice it but I've gone through countless attempts and have nothing. I am at a loss for anything to try next to get it. Thanks in advance to anyone willing to share the information!!
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2008-01-05, 8:29pm
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My best guess on this would be:
1. Clear base
2. opaque covering
3. thin clear encasing
4. heat and (using razor tool) push straight down almost to
mandrel. Repeat XXX times.
5. heat bead and round out.
6 encase more if you want to - or add decorations to bead.
Try that - see if it works (and if it doesn't - post a pic of that you got
anyway. One man's crappy bead is another man's breakthrough).
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2008-01-06, 4:24pm
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Thank you Karen. I will try it!!!
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2008-01-06, 11:42pm
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It was in the April '07 issue of B&B magazine. I have the issue, but I also found a link to the article. I've yet to try it myself, but you all have inspired me so next torch time:
http://www.beadandbutton.com/BNB/Obj...bpdf070492.pdf
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2008-01-07, 12:25am
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Thanks for posting that article. I enjoyed reading about Michael Barley. His beads are breathtaking!
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2008-01-07, 9:05am
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Wow; he started as a potter. I keep telling my hubby he should play with glass.
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2008-01-07, 4:32pm
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Okay, here is what I got by attempting this technique. Feel free to laugh out loud. I am clearly missing something important.
Thanks so much for posting that article too. I would LOVE to take his class.
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2008-01-07, 4:47pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rachel
Okay, here is what I got by attempting this technique. Feel free to laugh out loud. I am clearly missing something important.
Thanks so much for posting that article too. I would LOVE to take his class.
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Looks like you're not being aggressive enough with the cuts.
You need to double or triple the amount of cuts there.
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