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2009-11-11, 9:58pm
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Please Explain Unexplainium the Challenge
I just bought a lot of unexplainium and am trying to find uses and combos for it that are interesting. Pictures are very welcome and the best answer / pictures wins 2 free rods of unexpalinium to play with themselves.
So theres the challenge what have you got?
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2009-11-12, 12:30am
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Harold Williams Cooney
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1) make 'wide band' latachino cane (one wide stripe of colors, three or four rakes wide) on a clear 19mm rod, unabtain, then white, then unabtain. clear case (do this in three layers, so that you have white in the middle of your unubtain, cobalt 5 or turbo on the edges looks nice). pull to 7mm rods. cut rods to 2.5" pieces.
2) stick stack those pieces, 9 up looks good and is a nice small size tube to work with. melt in, blow out to even cup shape, fill will fine frit as background. melt in. make tube shape.
3) tube incase that prep with clear tubing.
4 make into bead.
notes:
1) keep kiln low
2) this is a 'once through' project if you want it to go smoothly; have all your prep and necessary handles ready.
3) terminated end is the money, look to stick termination at focal point; facing buyer.
not as hard as you think.
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2009-11-12, 6:23am
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I can explain Unobtanium,
Unexplanium, regretfully:
Not so muchium.
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2009-11-12, 6:43am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HWCGlass
1) make 'wide band' latachino cane (one wide stripe of colors, three or four rakes wide) on a clear 19mm rod, unabtain, then white, then unabtain. clear case (do this in three layers, so that you have white in the middle of your unubtain, cobalt 5 or turbo on the edges looks nice). pull to 7mm rods. cut rods to 2.5" pieces.
2) stick stack those pieces, 9 up looks good and is a nice small size tube to work with. melt in, blow out to even cup shape, fill will fine frit as background. melt in. make tube shape.
3) tube incase that prep with clear tubing.
4 make into bead.
notes:
1) keep kiln low
2) this is a 'once through' project if you want it to go smoothly; have all your prep and necessary handles ready.
3) terminated end is the money, look to stick termination at focal point; facing buyer.
not as hard as you think.
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Holy crap. I now know I no speaky boro.
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2009-11-12, 7:40am
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"....Oh Honey!"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HWCGlass
1) make 'wide band' latachino cane (one wide stripe of colors, three or four rakes wide) on a clear 19mm rod, unabtain, then white, then unabtain. clear case (do this in three layers, so that you have white in the middle of your unubtain, cobalt 5 or turbo on the edges looks nice). pull to 7mm rods. cut rods to 2.5" pieces.
2) stick stack those pieces, 9 up looks good and is a nice small size tube to work with. melt in, blow out to even cup shape, fill will fine frit as background. melt in. make tube shape.
3) tube incase that prep with clear tubing.
4 make into bead.
notes:
1) keep kiln low
2) this is a 'once through' project if you want it to go smoothly; have all your prep and necessary handles ready.
3) terminated end is the money, look to stick termination at focal point; facing buyer.
not as hard as you think.
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Oh my head...Dude, I need a visual. Lemme read that four more times.
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2009-11-12, 8:34am
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Phew...I thought it was just my old brain having another fart.
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2009-11-12, 11:04pm
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Attack of the Snuggie!
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Looks like Harold is the only playa so far.
Pulled the cane. One as a twisty and one as a straight pull. Thought I'd alternate the canes in the stickstack and give it a whirl.
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2009-11-12, 11:45pm
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roflol Harold....I got some of it but dude you've got some serious action going on in that posting lol, I'd love to see how your beads made this way turned out because frankly... I have no idea what they would look like !
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2009-11-13, 12:03am
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Take a rod of white, and cover it with Unexplainium. Pull it out and use the
resulting stringer to draw on inside out beads. Makes some really beautiful
soft colors. You can vary this by using different light colors (other than white).
Periwinkle, yellow, etc. Also works great for making flowers in marbles.
(Someone else showed me how to use this glass, I'm not the originator -
but I can't remember who it was . If I'm chosen, and I remember
I'll split it with them ).
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2009-11-13, 10:00am
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Originally Posted by pierces*designs
Holy crap. I now know I no speaky boro.
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But, I thought I did. After that, not quite sure. Will have to read several times to fully absorb.
Greg
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2009-11-13, 12:45pm
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like the zanfirico bead, upper left.
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2009-11-13, 2:12pm
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Karen James
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Harold, what???
Jiley, WOW!
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2009-11-13, 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by Jiley
like the zanfirico bead, upper left.
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Im not much of a bead person, but holy mother of mary those are amazing
hwcglass
could you please explain this
1) make 'wide band' latachino cane (one wide stripe of colors, three or four rakes wide) on a clear 19mm rod, unabtain, then white, then unabtain. clear case (do this in three layers, so that you have white in the middle of your unubtain, cobalt 5 or turbo on the edges looks nice). pull to 7mm rods. cut rods to 2.5" pieces.
seems like a clear enough statement, just got lost on the first sentence. everything after that i understand
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Kobuki*Delta Elite*Mirage*Blast Shields*two DeVilbiss 5 LPM* tanks* foot pedal.
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2009-11-13, 6:59pm
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so rather than edit my above post Ill add this
I looked up zanfirico glass work and came upon this
http://www.glassartists.org/Img48581...8581_IGP19.asp
May I say HWCglass, or Harold out standing work. I am sorry I did not see the contention at first. damn just top rate work. it is work like this that makes researching glass a pleasure and working with it a blast
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Kobuki*Delta Elite*Mirage*Blast Shields*two DeVilbiss 5 LPM* tanks* foot pedal.
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2009-11-14, 9:05am
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Yup.
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This is Harold, Jiley's post too. In CA at BABE. The above link is what i'm talking about, but these have no outer clear coat. Very old pic it feels like.
Good luck. Don't forget you pi measurer.
Hh
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2009-11-15, 6:09am
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I'm sorry, but I just can't follow what's going on. I've read Harold's instruction a dozen times and each time it's like my cell phone is breaking up - only every other word comes through. I'm missing something here.
Greg
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2009-11-15, 12:24pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getdul981
I'm sorry, but I just can't follow what's going on. I've read Harold's instruction a dozen times and each time it's like my cell phone is breaking up - only every other word comes through. I'm missing something here.
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I'll show you some time. Not that I can pull it off as cleanly as Harold does it or anything, but at least you can see the process...
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2009-11-15, 2:41pm
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Great!
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2009-11-15, 3:27pm
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I'll show you some time. Not that I can pull it off as cleanly as Harold does it or anything, but at least you can see the process...
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Me too please!
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2009-11-15, 10:05pm
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I saw that. Very cool pendant. I have to saw I suck at imploding twisties into pendants. Mine always distort badly. Guess I'm not patient enough with them or something.
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2009-11-16, 11:33am
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Word. This is Harold.
"Wide band" cane is shop speak for a very common cane set up. In my studio we speak of simple twisted line canes in terms of the clock. For example; 2 up would be two lines, one at noon one at 6. 4 up would be one at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock. A 'tight 4' would be four line close together, say 12, 1, 2 and 3 o'clock.
Wide band is a layered cane. In my example above, three layers. The un-ex then white then un-ex. So one makes a 'wide band' of un-ex (say three of four rakes wide) were all the rake touch, then covers that in white, then covers that in un-ex. CB5 on left and right to frame it out. Clear case.
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2009-11-16, 1:23pm
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Ahhh! Sorry about the mix-up on the kudo's Harold. Love your work! Also, even though I am working soft glass, I understand the above now! Thanks.
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2009-11-17, 6:36am
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Is there a school for borospeak???
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2009-11-18, 6:04pm
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so . . . anyone try it?
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2009-11-18, 6:32pm
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I might tomorrow. I have the canes pulled but I need to come see you in Utah and learn how to melt down a stick stack better. I have rod marbles pretty well figured out but tubing is still dicey for me.
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2009-11-18, 6:33pm
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Oh and I'll bring you some sticks of unexplainium with me
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2009-11-23, 12:04pm
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1/2 lb of some misc colors including 2 sticks of unexplainium headed your way to play with Harold you are the wiener
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On a Delta Elite with compressed tank and generators
"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
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2009-11-23, 6:00pm
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guess my pome doesn't get an honorable mention
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2009-11-23, 6:57pm
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Had it been a proper Haiku then it might have worked
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