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Old 2006-01-22, 9:37am
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Does anyone know where Satake Glass can be purchased? Online?

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Old 2006-01-22, 9:45am
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Susan,

Right now the only place is http://www.satakeglassusa.com/ However it isn't what I would call "online shopping", since you have to make out a list and send it to them.

However I fell in love with Satake (thanks Jeff!) and decided to start selling it myself. We (dh and I) are in the process of making a real shopping site for Satake. Yesterday our order of 1 rod of every color came in, and we started squishing it to take pictures! I'm soooooo excited. Of course with 160 colors this may take us a couple of days.
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Old 2006-01-22, 11:04am
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Arrow Springs carries Satake lead glass and has it on sale right now.
http://www.arrowsprings.com/
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Old 2006-01-22, 3:26pm
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Thanks Judi, I didn't know they were carrying it. Too bad they don't carry the full line, I really like the soda colors. Ah well, that just means there is still space for me.
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Old 2006-01-22, 3:44pm
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This is really exciting news, Jo! I've no doubt that I couldn't do more than make a puddle of melted glass with Satake right now...But I have great hopes that won't always be the case! I just love the their colors.

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Old 2006-01-22, 3:49pm
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Thanks Judi. Thanks Jo. I will be purchasing some Satake glass once I get my basics of lampworking down; considering the average price (incl. duties), I certainly don't want to be wasting any of it!

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Old 2006-01-22, 3:51pm
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Jo that is awesome!!

Are you going to be selling sample packs?
Like one rod of every color??
I would be totally into something like that!
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Old 2006-01-22, 3:59pm
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Jo that is awesome!!

Are you going to be selling sample packs?
Like one rod of every color??
I would be totally into something like that!

Hey, Great Idea!!!!
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Old 2006-01-22, 4:36pm
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Sample packs, one rod of every color, pink packs, frit packs, purple packs.... you name it, we want to package it!
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Old 2006-01-22, 5:12pm
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dogmaw Sample packs, one rod of every color, pink packs, frit packs, purple packs.... you name it, we want to package it!

Oooooooohhhhhhhhhh getting all excited!!!

I do agree with you, the soda colours are really lovely! I use a HH and the first time I tried Satake my hands shook so much as it melted like butter...I managed to make some beads tho hehe

I like the idea of sample/colour packs and frit....

Good luck in your venture, Im sure it will do well. I shall certainly be buying from you...

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Sample packs, one rod of every color, pink packs, frit packs, purple packs.... you name it, we want to package it!
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Old 2006-01-22, 5:41pm
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Once we get pictures taken I'll be doing "name that glass" games. Some of them are super pretty, but have names like "gray ruby". Ick!
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Old 2006-01-22, 5:46pm
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C&R Loo carries Satake. They also have a mother of pearl moretti compatable glass that sounds cool. Has anyone used it?

http://www.crloo.com/
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Old 2006-01-22, 5:57pm
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Jo that is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't wait
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Old 2006-01-22, 7:00pm
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Thanks Kevan, I didn't know they had it either! We are shooting for about $16 per pound if you buy 10 kilos or more (which is 22 lbs )
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Kevan -

The Mother of Pearl CR Loo has is to die for. It's a little shocky, and if you get the great big rods you'll have to pull them down. But it is gorgeous!

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Old 2006-01-23, 12:17am
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Satake is to die for!!!
I live about 10 miles from there warehouse.
2 or 3 times a year I try to do a bulk buy from them to get the best price.
I will probably need more in March.
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Old 2006-01-23, 12:19am
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The Mother of Pearl CR Loo has is to die for. It's a little shocky, and if you get the great big rods you'll have to pull them down. But it is gorgeous!

Courtney
Oh, I would like to see it. They don't have pictures of it. Is it really "pearly"?
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Old 2006-01-23, 1:02am
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Pretty pearly!

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Old 2006-01-23, 1:08am
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Oh my god! I have to have that!! Ahhhhhh!!!!!!

It looks kinda like pixy dust without the mess. It's beautiful. Thank you so much for taking the time to do the pics.

I thought they would be really pale colors.
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Old 2006-01-23, 5:57am
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This is the first I've heard of Satake glass?

Is it compatable with Moretti? As easy to work with?

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Old 2006-01-23, 7:17am
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Kevan -

There's a French "Moonstone" glass that is very pale, especially the pink. It's available at Glasscraft.

Kathy -

It's not compatible with Moretti. It has a much lower melting temperature, and works well with the HotHead. It also stays soft a lot longer than Moretti, which takes some getting used to. It's primarily used by the Japanese lampworkers, and they do some incredible things with it.

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Old 2006-01-23, 8:17am
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Kathy,

Yep, Courtney is right, no compatability. In fact there are 2 kinds of Satake glass, leaded and soda (or unleaded ). The soda has COE 113, and the leaded has COE 120. You can use one with the other in the same way we use 96 COE frit with Moretti 104 COE. Jeff Barber makes some absolutely stunning beads with Satake. http://www.lakesideartglass.com/ No relation, I just like his beads.
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Old 2006-01-25, 4:24am
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Hi Jo, Congratulations ! Will there be tips as to how to work with this glass? Ellen
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Old 2006-01-25, 6:08am
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Cool! I have found that if you overheat the pinks they will turn a lighter shade. Some colors, like "Gray Ruby" have wonderful striations. The ivory is superb too. I'm looking for reactions now like with Moretti ivory and turquoise. Yesterday I finished making all the glass "lolipops", and hopefully DH is taking pictures today so I can get things up and running!

The black (both lead and soda) is deliscious. But don't eat it. If you work is very cool it looks like hematite. Heat it more, and you get a true black. I've pulled it out into stringers and used it that way too. It is not quite as black as intense black as stringer, but much better than Moretti or Vetrofond in that it stays black.
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Old 2006-01-25, 7:06pm
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I love the ivory and the browns......

So far I havent seen any reactions to speak of.... I am very new to Satake though and still experimenting.

Glad you mentioned about the black. I thought I'd burnt mine when I got the hematite look.

I have found that using my graphite marver leaves some marks on the glass so I started using a really good 2inch long metal filler tool, works a treat neat! Satake works ok in a press too.....

I get nervous waiting so long before I tuck my bead away as it stays soft a lot longer than other glass.

Looking forward to the pics going up on your site...I shall keep my eye out!

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