Devardi Glass Technical Input and Experiences

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

Shrimp, no insult intended on the Walmart reference! I love this glass too and Walmart has come great products at great prices.

[Rareripes]

Kristina had peach rose murrini in some of her last beads here..

[PaulaP]

Diana thanks.

Kristina are you selling any rose murrini's?????? Please...Please...

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

I got some from Beadmonki... here is a link to her post on them:

http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/sh...postcount=2683

PM her because she makes it for a glass shop. If she doesn't have anymore to offer I would be glad to send you some to try. She made them with Devardi Salmon and Cranberry if I remember right. This bead shows it. I want to try to make Rose Murrini now that I see how Devardi holds up! Let me know if she doesn't have them to offer and I will mail you a few to play with.

[Drafly]

Originally Posted by Shrimp

It seems like a lot of glass. However, it only covers an area of about 2' x 5'. I usually purchase by the 1/4 lb. of any color when I place my orders.

Here is a close-up of the Devardi. Keep in mind that it was my first time making donut beads after a lengthy hiatus. There are some that didn't come out very good. But like I said, I didn't do too bad.

I plan on making some wooden frames to store them in. I'll cut the brass rods down as well.

Dang....that's a fuzzy image.

Pia, Thanks for posting this. I know it took a lot of work.
Could you tell me color of the bead in the 7th row down, and 5th bead from the right. It almost looks like a purple/magenta. I would like to check my stock and see if I have it.

Thanks, Jim

[PaulaP]

Kristina thanks going to check it out right now. I have a vision! Working on a little skunk critter and he needs a little fragrant rose....lol

[Shrimp]

Originally Posted by Fine Folly Glassworks

Shrimp, no insult intended on the Walmart reference! I love this glass too and Walmart has come great products at great prices.

All is good. Love ya!

[Drafly]

[quote=Drafly;3578554]Pia, Thanks for posting this. I know it took a lot of work.
Could you tell me color of the bead in the 7th row down, and 5th bead from the right. It almost looks like a purple/magenta. I would like to check my stock and see if I have it.

Thanks, Jim[/QUOTE

Sorry, This post should have been addressed to Shrimp. Not enough coffee today. Shrimp, I would appreciate it if you could help me on this.

Thanks, Jim

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

Originally Posted by PaulaP

Kristina thanks going to check it out right now. I have a vision! Working on a little skunk critter and he needs a little fragrant rose....lol

How neat. If she doesn't have them I can send you some Salmon and some Pink Roses to try.

[PaulaP]

Kristina thanks. I sent her a PM didn't see any in her etsy. Will let you know and thanks for being so generous.

[Shrimp]

Originally Posted by Drafly

Pia, Thanks for posting this. I know it took a lot of work.
Could you tell me color of the bead in the 7th row down, and 5th bead from the right. It almost looks like a purple/magenta. I would like to check my stock and see if I have it.

Thanks, Jim

Answering for Pia. It is SOP Violet, Jim. Under different light conditions, it tends to appear in various shades of purples. In the photo here, it does have a more purple appearance. For the most part, I would liken it to a translucent amethyst. Not a whole lot of magenta tone in it. It is one of my favorite purples!

[Mountain Snail]

Originally Posted by Fine Folly Glassworks

The endless and clever bashing comments are what are a drag, and bashing is way different than posting about a problem so that you can find help and use it to improve. And no one has a problem with problems being posted here - that is another bash that is not true.

If you have a need or a problem ANYONE here who uses this glass regularly would help you in a minute, as you have already found out. If you are struggling USING a color or making something work with Devardi glass anyone here would try to help you. So realize that it's the bashing that is the drag. It isn't done on any other Thread on LE like it is here. I get it that Devardi is really taking a share of the glass market, but that's called a Free Market, and it is a choice each buyer gets to make.

Lastly, concerning Customer Service, it doesn't surprise me that Natasha will take your glass back without a problem... that is the way these kind and devoted people are. They offer fabulous Customer Service and amazing low prices. The glass is not Saks Fifth Ave glass, it is Walmart level glass. That's the price you paid and I paid, and the bashing needs to stop unless it is your agenda.

Wow, thanks for the compliment! Clever eh? I find it interesting that someone else posted on this thread that it would be silly to think I work for another glass company. REALLY? You all think my crappy crooked newbie beads are that of someone in the glass industry? LOL! Thanks again! Two compliments in the same day! This certainly isn't what I came to this forum for.

Oh and as for Devardi customer service, I got another email this morning telling me to wrap the glass really well and insure it because they won't take it back broken. LOL!!!!!!!! How is that for ironic? Many of my rods arrived here broken!

Whatever. Lesson learned. I don't shop at Walmart. Good comparison by the way.

[Drafly]

Originally Posted by Shrimp

Answering for Pia. It is SOP Violet, Jim. Under different light conditions, it tends to appear in various shades of purples. In the photo here, it does have a more purple appearance. For the most part, I would liken it to a translucent amethyst. Not a whole lot of magenta tone in it. It is one of my favorite purples!

Shrimp, Thanks for the info. and thanks for sharing all the hard work.

Jim

[Shrimp]

Originally Posted by Mountain Snail

Oh and as for Devardi customer service, I got another email this morning telling me to wrap the glass really well and insure it because they won't take it back broken. LOL!!!!!!!! How is that for ironic? Many of my rods arrived here broken!

Just send it back in a medium flat-rate box. I understand they are insured. I could be mistaken though. Just put the broken ones in a seperate wrapper and lable it. If any others get broken enroute, then I would think that your vendor would be able to see that you may have had a bad batch. It isn't always possible to get an order of devardi glass without a few broken rods. It's just evident that from their uneven pulls, there is bound to be some breakage. The beauty of that is that it will make gorgeous frit.

But wait....one more question. Did you get any of the SOP Light Lime Green or the Light Turquoise? I'll take it! PM me please!

Originally Posted by Drafly

Shrimp, Thanks for the info. and thanks for sharing all the hard work.

Jim

You are very welcome. It took months of, off and on work to complete the project, but it sure is paying off now.

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

Hey you all, I looked through my Rose Murrini from Bead Monki and I have a lot more than I thought. To lighten things up and to appologize for my getting testy and stressing some of you, I thought I would offer 4 sets of Peach and Pink Rose Murrini to any one who likes to use Devardi glass.

You will get 4 of the larger Salmon Rose Murrini and 5 of the smaller Pink Rose Murrini. Please PM me and send me your mailing address. I'll put them in the mail with a regular stamped envelope. And of course, the FIRST set goes to Paula Marie Perot! They sure make pretty roses! I am no expert, but I can also post some tips on making them spread if anyone wants them.

[PaulaP]

Kristina thank you so much. Can't wait to give them a try.

[angelique_redhead]

Those are AMAZING murrini. Too pretty. Angelique

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

TWO sets left! The next two that PM me with your mailing address get them!

[PaulaP]

Kristina thank you again and yes if you don't mind sharing your tips I sure don't want to waste them.

[Pia Kaven]

ok what the heck is SOP? Stop talking in cryptic messages!

[dragonlite]

lol

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

There are endless ways to apply murrini, but here is one simple way.

Preheat your base bead where you will apply the murrini. In a cool flame put a tiny dot of the color of the rose (or use clear) on the base bead and then hold the murrini in long tweezers and wave it in the high/side of the flame to pre-warm it. It can also be pre-warmed on a Rod Warmer but still wave it on it's underside just before placing it on the base bead dot.

Heat the base bead spot and dot and set the murrini firmly on the dot and quickly pick up your marver or tool and gently press the murrini with the flat edge (don't flattened it - just gently press). I heat it on my Hothead right before pressing. I don't know if a mixed torch would be to hot for this extra heating, you will have to judge. The purpose is to seat it and make sure the top surface is flat.

Then apply a molten dot of clear with a stringer. Hold the stringer a second before pulling it off so you don't pull up the murrini. Then gently shape the dot with heat and/or a tool. Use your tool to gently spread the edges down all the way around, one edge at a time. You can even draw out a bit if using brass. Your tool is on top of the clear so you are pulling the clear cap and thereby spreading the petals.

You CAN just apply that clear cap and use heat to make the clear melt and spread and spread the petals with it.

The OTHER way is fancier and more challenging. You pull the murrini to a tip and let it cool and then heat the base bead and press it into the bead to seat it in a bit, and do as instructed above. The difference here is that your rose goes down into a center instead of having it's wide base.

Hope that gives you some verbal pictures and is more clear than mud!

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

Originally Posted by Pia Kaven

ok what the heck is SOP? Stop talking in cryptic messages!

Sorry - I hate abbreviations too... SOP stands for Semi Opaque.

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

OKAY all gone! I hope the winners have a great time, and if you like something you make be sure to post a pic!

[dragonlite]

You are too kind Kristina!

[PaulaP]

YEAH!!!! that was so awesome. When pulling the murrini to a tip from the back are you saying this makes for a tighter rose and if so when I apply the clear cap will it spread the petals back out? I know....duh!

[Fine Folly Glassworks]

Originally Posted by PaulaP

YEAH!!!! that was so awesome. When pulling the murrini to a tip from the back are you saying this makes for a tighter rose and if so when I apply the clear cap will it spread the petals back out? I know....duh!

Yes - what you said! The point becomes the inner center. Like a tiny cone you press it point-first into the base, leaving at least half above the surface of the bead. Then apply the dot of clear and help the petals spread with heat or a tool.

It is hard to pull to a point once the murrini are cut. Better to pull points from a cane and then cut the murrini cone. But you can gently use tweezers or pliers to shape the bottom into a cone shape. You will have to experiment.

[PaulaP]

Can't wait to try them out.

[Wiley]

Originally Posted by Fine Folly Glassworks

I would encourage you to post your Devardi glass for sale and stop the endless complaints. You have made it clear it isn't for you.

That was rude and uncalled for. She is stating her opinion as we ALL have a right to do that. Not to mention the fact that she was encouraged to share her thoughts.

[Wiley]

It is THAT kind of attitude that will always keep me from trying this glass. The attitudes I have seen surrounding Devardi glass ... "this glass rocks or STFU" ... "if you have shocky glass it's because you are working it wrong."

Nice ... real nice helpful attitudes