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2007-03-03, 1:39pm
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Oh Ye it most definately meets my approval LOL I almost killed the Fedex guy tho and scared him enough that he had another guy deliver it LOL I skeered him LOLLOL Well he did lie to me after I sat up all day waiting for him and he never even attempted delivery when he says he did LOL Now if I could just stop looking at it long enough to start getting knobby LOL I cranked up the amps to go a bit faster. Right now it has a really nice smooth covering and probably could never get that smooth of a coverage when I want it LOL. I told my sister about the dragonfly and now she is on the lookout for bugs LOL I think a locust shell would be really cool.
Another question .......... crap I forgot it...................... I'll be back
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2007-03-05, 11:31am
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Absolutely loving it!!!!!
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Ok I look at the show and tell everyday and kept seeing the electoformed beads and thought i was just behind the times (being a newbie) and didn't want to ask what it was. Today I saw the Beast meets Chains (I think) and could no longer resist finding out what this stunning technique was. And just like magic, the first thread in tips and techniques was just what I needed, I read the whole thing......I am soooooo hooked, I am now saving my money for a kit. I can already picture myself doing this.
Thank you guys for this wonderful and informative thread, and thanks Tink for doing all this. I am awed and inspired every day by the wonderful group of people in this community.
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2007-03-05, 1:09pm
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Well this is really a cool thing. Just finished my second leaf but have a question. I cant get the nubby look, is bright shiny penny no matter how high I set it adn this mornig sometime one of the brass plates broke in half. I guess I was set too high since I only did ips or hints2 pieces. Both leaves have a really big amount of copper and are pretty weitghty (will post a pix tonigh when i get home) Do you set it lower for hte nubby look or maybe my paint is too thick and if thinned down Ill get the nubby look. Any tips or hints on what im doing "wrong"?
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2007-03-06, 12:16am
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OK here is my first leaf.
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2007-03-06, 12:21am
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Well it might actually help if i attach the picture....................
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2007-03-06, 5:21pm
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as in the state
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Yay!!
I just got mine Saturday!! Just need to get the solutions and some chemicals for patinas and I'mready to roll!!
-amy
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2007-03-06, 5:37pm
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It's not easy being green
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OMG Robyn!
That leaf is beautiful!!!!!!! I just bought my kit and can't wait to get it. Seeing that beautiful leaf just makes the wait even harder!!!!!!!! Great job!!!!
Lonni
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2007-03-08, 8:38am
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Thank You.....................but how do I get that bumpy look to it? Thin down the paint so it is bumpy or not as smoothe or thick or what? I tis amazing how thick it is and how much weight it has added to it. Im trying to decide what kind of patina to try on it. Possibly the green one?
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2007-03-08, 11:50am
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I wish I could get results that smooth when I wanted them. You can add stuff to get bumps, but there's nothing to add to get smooth if you're getting texture even with your current turned down low.
You can glue things onto your bead to give it texture. Those itty-bitty "Beedz" (little glass balls without holes) that craft stores sell (try the scrapbooking department) work, and you can place them individually or scatter them all over. I've used sandpaper. I'm thinking about trying kitty litter (the fine grained scoopable kind, although you could use the other ones if you want big bumps.) Just paint over it carefully with the conductive paint.
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2007-03-09, 10:27am
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LOL Well both my leaves I did are really smooth and im thinking it is because the paint was really thick and smooth. Have another Im goingt o do this weekend and will try some things added to give a bumpier look. I woudl be careful about the fine kitty litter and make sure it dosnt have any of things that absorbe fluid LOL You will ahve the hunch back of beads LOL
Robyn
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2007-03-19, 11:17am
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I'm wondering what ever became of the Titanium Pens??? Did anyone who used them have success and if so does anyone know where to buy them now?
Thanks!
Deborah
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2007-03-22, 4:00pm
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ABR Imagery carries them, we just bought one to try. They have an online catalog at http://www.abrimagery.com I think it cost $20.00
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2007-03-22, 4:05pm
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Thanks Ed! 
Deborah
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2007-03-28, 5:06pm
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I have another question on the silver plating after doing the copper electroforming. I know the solution has to be for silver, and the anodes have to be silver but do the other wires all have to be silver as well? For example, can the same thick copper be OK to hook the rectifier leads up to but the wire that goes into the solution to touch the piece be or have to be silver?
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2007-04-06, 2:19pm
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I'm having problems with my electroforming now. I did several successful pieces a few days ago, but now everything I do comes out with copper granules that rub right off instead of forming a cohesive skin of copper. It's frustrating. I have cleaned everything, filtered the solution, scrubbed all the anodes and wires, played with current- still just getting loose granules that fall off, leaving just the original paint. Any ideas, anyone????
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2007-04-24, 8:59am
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I have a question about how to attach the wire to the bead. I made my first electroformed big hole bead last night after a few days of doing nothing with one of them (had it connected up all wrong).
So the successful one I had the wire looping through the bead but you can see where the wire was touching the outside of the bead - so how does one prevent this? I'll post a picture later if it helps.
Sadie
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2007-04-30, 11:58am
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THANK YOU ANNA...I have been going through anodes like crazy and can't find copper flashing anywhere...I even posted a "bathroom" thread about it... *running to truck to head down to hardware store*!!!
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2007-04-30, 12:02pm
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...here are a few shots of what I have been doing (great thread)
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2007-04-30, 12:46pm
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I'm getting ready to fire up my electroforming gear again. I want to try adding elements to my beads with jeweler's wax. Does anyone have a good source for this?
Michelle - those beads are great!
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2007-05-10, 8:19am
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Jeweler's wire and I have a wax question
I am debating on placing an order with Rio Grande for jeweler's wax. I am also contemplating purchasing some sheet wax. I was hoping to use this on some of my flat pot melts. Making a bezel by electroforming a sheet of flat wax to the back of the project, and then a wire bezel around the sides to hold the cab in. Any ideas if this will work or has anyone tried it yet? I haven't used my electroforming kit yet, so I am not sure of how to put the wax together. I thought it would be easier and less expensive than doing the project in sterling. Any ideas? Thanks.
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2007-05-12, 8:51am
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Could you simply apply paint directly to the cab and skip the wax altogether?
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2007-05-21, 9:38am
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Gee...never thought of that. That's a good idea. I guess I didn't expect the paint to stick to the glass as good as it does. I've had my kit for a looooong time now, and was too afraid to take it out and get started. But once I got the paint out, I see how well it really does cover stuff.
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2007-05-21, 9:43am
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Finally up and running...
I just got my set up and running this morning. I've been afraid to try it, and I think the kit was sitting here unopened for about a year. I took a deep breath, read the directions thru a few times and just got to it taking it step by step. I had it set up and going in no time. It was so nice to have the kit with everything in it, and everything spelled out so nicely. I'm not afraid anymore! I wish I hadn't of lost my digital camera, so I could share the outcome. Oh...how long are we supposed to leave the bead in the solution?
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2007-06-12, 4:41pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanja
Oh...how long are we supposed to leave the bead in the solution?
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Hi Tanja!
Sorry for the delay in responding, we've been running around like madmen since early May.
Anyway, leave the work in the solution and powered up until you get the effect you desire. Depending on current level, area coated with conductive paint, and type of coating desired the time can vary wildly... from an hour or so to overnight or longer.
Hope it's not too much a doofus answer, I think I may still be jet lagged, heheh.
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2007-06-17, 10:59am
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I'll finally chime in on the sealing. I use some leftover Stained Glass Finishing Compound from my stained glass days, and then a coat of Turtle Wax for cars, but the compound alone is probably sufficient. And I too have has a bit of success with non-etched beads.
This is one of my first beads, I had it set too high and the edges lifted, but how I get the rainbow streaks on a few beads has puzzled me.
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2007-06-27, 6:29pm
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Here are a couple that I've been playing with....
Made some pea pods that have been really fun to play with...and have been great sellers...
Also made some bird eggs in nests that have caught alot of peoples eyes...Most people think that the nest is a purchased piece and that they are put together in a pendant...
I'm having a blast with this process. I think it adds so much to what we can do...
Great info here too...
Julie K.
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2007-07-06, 4:55pm
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Finally....pictures of my electroforming adventure
This first one is a boro x electroforming adventure..both of which I'm new to... 
and this one is a moretti pot melt with e-forming 
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2007-07-24, 3:12am
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Just under 2/10s of an amp
I tried my kit for the first time and my bead came out looking like an echidna! All spikey! What would be an average length of time that you leave a bead in the Eformer?
Sorry lots of questions!
What is a good medium for carving that I can add to a bead and Eform over?
Can I use nail polish on a bead as a base for conductive paint and will it stay?
I tried "knead-it' a proprietary epoxy dough? but its hard to get it to stay on the bead while it's soft and it hardens in 5-10 minutes and then is too hard. something more moldable would be better. Though you can drill it afterwards and carve it with a dremel, but thats a bit too much for me as yet.
More questions with more experience next time!
thanks
Kym
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2007-07-24, 4:34am
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Hi Kym,
I don't know the answer to your questions but wanted to tell you I just did an electrforming class with Tink on Sunday (yes, 2 days ago!) and I'm a believer! I'm ordering one.....
How's life down under???
Sue in Maine
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2007-08-29, 4:22pm
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Using Titanium Pen When Electroforming
Hi Tink!
In the class at Hale Fire Glass you demonstrated using a titanium pen on your vessel or bead that you electroformed. I'm having trouble finding one. Any suggestions. I've tried Googling titanium pens but don't think those that come up are the right ones.
Also, if it's not already on this thread, would you mind explaining the use of this pen so others willl know what we're talking about?
Thanks!
Warmly, Marie C 
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