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Old 2015-03-24, 2:38pm
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A newbie question but I've forgotten anything I used to know about glass!

If I want to do only black and white beads.. which black am I best using? I have rediscovered that intense black bleeds and webs, that effetre black doesn't look very black when on a white bead, and that CIM hades webs as well.

There are lots more blacks out there, cim and reicenbach, what would you recommend for actually black dots on a white bead? For black and white murrini?

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Old 2015-03-24, 2:59pm
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Been wondering that same thing
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Old 2015-03-24, 3:15pm
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A lot of people swear by one of the Reichenbach blacks, but I can't remember whether it's the deep black or the dense black.
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Old 2015-03-24, 4:37pm
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Aye, I only remember that if I want very crisp edges I should encase the black in some clear but I do remember that there was a good deal of discussion about the various blacks.

But I don't remember enough to be able to answer your question.
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Old 2015-03-24, 4:49pm
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There's some good info here: http://chestnutridgedesigns.com/sect....aspx?bp_id=28
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Old 2015-03-24, 5:53pm
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And here is another thread that might be useful:

http://lampworketc.com/forums/showth...ighlight=Black
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Old 2015-03-24, 5:54pm
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Thanks Patty, that was helpful. I'm gonna go buy some reichembach black
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Old 2015-03-24, 6:05pm
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R9603, dense black, is probably the one you want. I use it only for stringer work.

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Old 2015-03-25, 1:06am
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I like CIM Tuxedo black for all but the finest stringer work. Just don't overheat, good rule of thumb for clean stringer work anyway LOL
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Old 2015-03-25, 2:39pm
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I forget who I learned this from, but encase dense black in ink blue or vetrofond black to get that solid black line without the webbing/spreading.
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Old 2015-03-25, 5:13pm
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I have also had good results with tuxedo.
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deep black from reichenbach a true black that doesnt web. its a dream.
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I just got some Riechenbach deep black from Olympic, tried it out today, and it's *great*.
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I use Reichenbach deep black for fine stringer work. It doesn't do the web thing even on ivory. I didn't like it at first, it's stiffer than Effetre intense black but now I'm used to it.
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Old 2015-03-28, 3:39am
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Have ordered some reichenbach deep black to try, thanks!
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I have some ordered as well.
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Old 2015-03-29, 6:43am
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early on I was taught to encase the lapis cobalt with the regular black to pull black stringers
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I was taught to encase effetre black with cobalt to get a truer black!
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doesn't Belladonna make a nice true black in 104 that won't bleed?
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Yes, it's called Black Diamond. It's my go-to for a deep dark absolutely black glass. A hair-thin stringer is still black.

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i thought so...wasn't sure on the mfg though. been meaning to try belladonna glass...damn boro keeps getting in the way
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I've been using CIM Hades and CIM Peace as my ultimate layering combination for a few years now, for both raised, stacked dots and melted-in layers. I make a lot of historic reproduction beads with black & white, and this is my tried & true.
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