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Old 2010-10-20, 7:10am
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can anyone give me any hints or tips to working this. Yesterday I made a bead that had the most beautiful copper, teal, blue, gold matte colors, and for the life of me, I cant do it again......I do think you cant get this really hot to do it, that is about the only thing I think I do know....so you have to do somewhat small beads. course, I could be totally wrong...any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 2010-10-20, 7:47am
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Whose metallic black are you using?
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Old 2010-10-20, 2:59pm
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frantz I think, either frantz or wales. I think it is wales. I was using the same rod to recreate the bead I already made, but couldnt get it to do it again...
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Old 2010-10-20, 3:07pm
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If it's Moretti Metallic Black I can't help you. Not only is this stuff frit on a stick, I've actually had three inch pieces pop right off before. I hate it and am restraining myself from throwing it across the room.

And I do think the effects (once you can get the stuff wound on a mandrel rather than all over your bench) tend to be hit and miss.

If you do figure out the secret, do tell!
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Old 2010-10-20, 7:50pm
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speaking of Effetre metallic black:

Here's what I do: I find it likes oxygen and I usually use a fairly oxy rich flame. a small, cool flame. wind it on and shape. take it out of the flame, let it cool a tad, like a count to 4 or so, (it should still be shiny black) and then delicately roll it back into the same flame. each time you roll it into the flame brings out different colours. Seems to work fairly consistently for me, as long as the glass is a "good" batch.
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Old 2010-10-20, 9:19pm
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You work it like Dark Silver Plum. I think it was Donna (CG Beads) who said, toast it gently, like a marshmallow. That said, I have some of the original I've been hoarding, maybe time to pull it out and start toasting.
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Old 2010-10-20, 10:19pm
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Yep if it's Effetre metallic black make your bead and give it an oxy rich bath - should bring out the metallic colors...
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Old 2010-10-25, 5:44pm
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thanks everyone, cant wait to try it this week!!!!
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Old 2010-10-25, 5:46pm
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hmmm, your right, i think that is what I did...omg, I cant wait to try this again. Thank You!!!!



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speaking of Effetre metallic black:

Here's what I do: I find it likes oxygen and I usually use a fairly oxy rich flame. a small, cool flame. wind it on and shape. take it out of the flame, let it cool a tad, like a count to 4 or so, (it should still be shiny black) and then delicately roll it back into the same flame. each time you roll it into the flame brings out different colours. Seems to work fairly consistently for me, as long as the glass is a "good" batch.
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Old 2010-10-26, 3:16pm
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Would love to see your bead Kelly!

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Old 2010-10-26, 6:41pm
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I would try to take a pic, but I can promise you you wouldnt even be able to see the colors. I cant take a decent photo of a bead..working on it though, I swear!!!
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Old 2010-10-27, 5:20am
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Im going to try this again today, and A if I can get the color to show, B, I will use Kevans fab photo tutorial to see if I can get a pic. Im sick of not being able to show pics.....!!
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Old 2010-10-27, 6:49am
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made this with metallic black accents:

http://www.etsy.com/convos/get_convo...mage_type=full


you can't really see the color variations on the doodled, tri-colored hollows,(but it's there) but you can see the cool color shifts on the disks in between. I drizzle (ala John Winters) on the hollows, make sure the stringer is on there, (nothing worse than stringer popping off later) then wave it back in the flame for the metallic to come out. disks are 100% metallic black

I love this stuff, please pm me if you hate it and want to trade for something else.
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