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Old 2013-10-09, 3:19pm
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Anyone heard of or use this? I'm still in the middle of my beadliner dilemma. I've had a Jim Moore (too big and heavy) and an Impress (I kept breaking the beads). I ended up selling them both because I decided I would just glue in the sterling inserts. THEN..... my beads were picked-up by a local jewelry shop that gets lots of business and tourist action and sells Troll beads. She loves my beads and she's having an open house and anniversary local artisan show a month or so from now and she wants to feature my beads! Advertising, mailings, the works. So now, I don't want to sell my beads with glue in inserts, because I'm worried they'll look poopy. And I'm back to the whole beadliner dilemma.

I have arthritis in my hands and I was going to get the Retro liner, but I read a review someone posted on here that said they have arthritis in their hands, and working the Retro is like unscrewing/screwing a jar, which is hard to do for me. I'm thinking I should just buy another Impress (kicking myself in the butt for selling the first one) and patiently work through the process until I can wham! bam! crank those babies out like lottsa other glass artists can do with the Impress. It's not the tool, it's the tool user (moi). I know this.

BUT THEN..... I came across this 'lil gem! The "This Might Be The One For Me" La Casita Bolita beadliner. Looks easy, has a compact presentation (did I mention I'll be taking it on a train every Saturday while my kid is in music school in NYC? Gotta have something to do while I wait).


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Old 2013-10-09, 3:24pm
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I've seen similar ones and even made one, but not this specific brand. Not as easy to use as the Retro bead liner, but not difficult to use, either.

ETA: This would probably be easier for you than the Retro because it has a bar to turn, rather than a round handle.
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Old 2013-10-09, 5:31pm
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Wow it looks compact and easier. I have the empress but have broken 2 out of four beads. . How much is this one?
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Impress all the way, here.

I broke plenty when I started with it, but now I might bust 1 in 100.
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Old 2013-10-10, 4:19am
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I too tend to break beads with the Impress. And I very often get the tubing pushed to one side, which results in a lopsided core. Any tips ? I don't know this beadliner but it definitely looks interesting.
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Old 2013-10-10, 5:36am
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Where can you buy it? I don't see any links for price and purchase.
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Those of you breaking beads on the Impress - Are you doing 1/4 turns and flipping after each turn? When you get to the end are you only giving a 1/8th turn to just make it tight? Is your bead uniform in thickness for hole to hole? If you have a high point of glass that is snug before the rest and continue to squeeze the pressure will break or chip the bead.

Anne, I would suspect you are trying to flare too much on your first or second "squish". Try smaller increments of turning each flip.
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As for the bead liner posted, I would think it should work fine. Please let us know if it does.
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I noticed with my impress that it didn't flare evenly. So now I pay close attention to my tool position and adjust the core to the right position before I turn.

For example, my impress has a #10 on one side. I always work with that facing away from me.

I noticed that the #10 side of the tube I was flaring, was flaring at a different rate than the side closest to me. So, when I flip, I make sure the "high spot" on the tube is closest to me, and each flip there after... high spot closest to me.

I also do 1/2 turns for the first 3-4 turns then go to 1/4 turns until it tightens up. Then I snug it up with teeny tiny turns while spinning the bead on the peg.
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Old 2013-10-10, 7:09am
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I'm using this beadliner for years and I'm happy with it. It's easy to use, a light weight and you can take it with you where ever you want to.
See the shop link http://www.glasperlenkunst.ch/Shop/
or send a mail to Beat Hadorn the shop owner info@glasperlenkunst.ch I'm sure he will help you.
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Old 2013-10-10, 7:31am
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Thanks for the tips, I'll try again.
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Can't go past my Retro Tools bead liner - have never had a problem.
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Youpi, I finally managed to core a bead with a lip with my Impress. Thanks for the tips Jamie, I was getting very frustrated with that uneven flaring !
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I wonder if all liners do that uneven flairing or if it's only the Impress. I suspect the bottom screws may not be perfectly centered but I might be wrong.
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I totally agree with Suzy regarding the Impress! Start with 1/4 turns and flipping the bead! Towards the end you really need to baby it along. As far as the retro bead liner I've never heard any complaints like what was mentioned here.

This past July at the Gathering JenneRebecca almost had me buying one with her "sales pitch:" and she doesn't even work for them! It was towards the end of the Gathering with less funds than I had started so I didn't purchase it.

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I totally agree with Suzy regarding the Impress! Start with 1/4 turns and flipping the bead! Towards the end you really need to baby it along. As far as the retro bead liner I've never heard any complaints like what was mentioned here.

This past July at the Gathering JenneRebecca almost had me buying one with her "sales pitch:" and she doesn't even work for them! It was towards the end of the Gathering with less funds than I had started so I didn't purchase it.

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Duane, I had the Retro and it is super easy to use. I only sold mine because I needed $$ and I hardly used it.
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I always blamed the cone flaring thing being a little wobbly, and the threads on the tool pushing it at an ever so slight angle when pressing.


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Very intriguing! Their site is pretty difficult to navigate, even after translation, but here is the item in the shop: http://www.glasperlenkunst.ch/Shop/default.htm
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Am I missing something? Because I still don't see any way to purchase it. Are they sold out?? Does anyone know if this tool is less expensive than the others? Counting in the cost of shipping, of course.

These types of beads are not going out style and I need to step up my game. I can make them but I really don't think I should be selling them without a core.
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Darn. I copied and pasted it exactly, but the site goes to some weird default, I guess. You have to view it in German, rather than translated, for some reason. Random clicking until you find the right page. I managed to find a contact email on their Classes page. Sent them an inquiry. We'll see..
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I think this works the same way as the Impress -- with the turns to flare. It seems like you'd have the same problem.

I have the Impress and do super tiny turns -- 1/8th or less, and flip a lot. I've only cracked 2. One had a bump and one when I wanted it just a little tighter.

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Darn. I copied and pasted it exactly, but the site goes to some weird default, I guess. You have to view it in German, rather than translated, for some reason. Random clicking until you find the right page. I managed to find a contact email on their Classes page. Sent them an inquiry. We'll see..
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Wow it looks compact and easier. I have the empress but have broken 2 out of four beads. . How much is this one?
I kept breaking beads on the impress until I watched the instructional video on his site. Havent broken a bead since. The key is the bead placement on the tube.
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Darn. I copied and pasted it exactly, but the site goes to some weird default, I guess. You have to view it in German, rather than translated, for some reason. Random clicking until you find the right page. I managed to find a contact email on their Classes page. Sent them an inquiry. We'll see..
http://www.glasperlenkunst.ch/Shop/default.htm
You click on Werkzeuge, Zubehör , then Werkzeuge
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I have both Jim Moore's tool and the Impress and have never broken a bead. I think if you're having a high rate of breakage either it's bead positioning or bead shape. I've not had problems with uneven flaring either. Is your tubing cut straight? (Silly question I know but have to ask).

Hope you find a solution! The german tool looks interesting
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http://www.glasperlenkunst.ch/Shop/default.htm
You click on Werkzeuge, Zubehör , then Werkzeuge
there is no direct link

..no idea what it says though lol
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Here it is translated:

La Casita Bolita Beadliner set
La Casita Bolita Beadliner complete set
incl. fine cut saw and Ausreiber.

In order to line the pearl canals with silver pipe.
Suitable for Silberrohre of 3 to 5 mms
Completely with 6 Auftreibern, 2 per size and a small one and a big level application.

Detailed operating instructions are provided.

suitable Silberrohre find under smart accessories-> silver 925

suitable pearl thorn for Pandorastyle pearls finds them under tools, accessories-> pearl thorn

Set price 180 Frs instead of 193 Frs
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I've broken my fair share of beads on my Impress by trying to get the flares as tight as possible. I read somewhere to not flare the edges with the Impress all the way down tight - take them off just before that point and hammer the flares the rest of the way down with a little rawhide mallet (I got mine at Rio Grande I think). I thought the mallet would damage the glass but it doesn't. This method works pretty well for me.
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Try this link
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