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2007-01-20, 1:02pm
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Need picture of propane tank with regulator
I just ordered a "standard" regulator through Arrow Springs and am trying to visualize what the end result would be when it is hooked up. I have not bought a propane tank yet for fear of buying the wrong type. Will a BBQ p/tank from Walmart work? Theirs comes already filled with propane.
I know the regulator will come with instructions but just want a heads up and would like to see your pictures so I know what to do with this regulator when I get it.
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2007-01-20, 1:14pm
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Yes a BBQ tank will work. Thats what I use
Its not hard to figure out. only 1 part of the regulator will screw to the tank.
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2007-01-20, 5:03pm
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There is no wrong propane tank.... Propane and acetylene and other flammable fuel tanks use what is called a CGA-510 connector (female portion). Propane and acetylene regulators also use the CGA-510 connector (male portion). This holds true with propane tank sizes from 4.25 lb. to 100 lb... The typical 20 lb. BBQ tank is correct as long as you have specifically ordered a fuel gas regulator....
http://www.concoa.com/index.php?page...ref=10&cga=510
Be aware that the connection on regulator/tank is LEFT-HAND thread. They a have small groove machined in hex area on connector where you apply wrench to tighten connection so one is aware of the "reverse" of normal tightening procedures....
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2007-01-21, 12:03pm
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Also beware that to turn on pressure ON, you turn the T lever to the RIGHT (counter intuitive). So when you first get the regulator, turn it to the LEFT to loosen it a bit so when you hook it up to your propane tank and hose, it will be in the OFF position.
There is a thread somewhere here or at WC that go into details about that. It is also stated in the regulator instruction manual.
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2007-01-21, 12:12pm
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Here is a informative write up on regulators:
Fuel-Oxygen Regulators
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2007-01-21, 12:57pm
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where can I get an adjustable fuel regulator? No one around here seems to carry them?
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2007-01-21, 1:26pm
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where can I get an adjustable fuel regulator? No one around here seems to carry them?
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Go to welding supply, get a Acetylene (fuel) regulator.... No, there is actually no difference just the "named" fuel...
Dale
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2007-01-21, 1:36pm
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For what its worth...
Here is picture (stolen off WC) of what appears to be a Acetylene (fuel gas) regulator connected to a 20lb. propane tank...
Dale
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2007-01-22, 10:27pm
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DH said to stay away from Blue Rhino. It's extremely flammable.
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2007-01-22, 10:32pm
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thanks again Dale 
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2007-01-23, 5:19am
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Quote:
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DH said to stay away from Blue Rhino. It's extremely flammable.
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All propane is extremely flammable.
I use nothing but Blue Rhino as they are the company that supplies most of the convenience stores in my area. I've found their tanks to be clean, valves to be rust free and well maintained. I've yet to see a rusty or beat up tank in their exchanges - when they do get one, it is cleaned, primed and re-painted, and new appliques applied.
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2007-01-23, 7:59am
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Blue Rhino is fine; I've used that at my sister's studio. At home I use Amerigas, because they are the most commonly found supplier around my area. Ditto Mike--clean, re-primed and painted tanks, new packaging. There's never a problem swapping out tanks--just go to Publix, leave tank, pay for new tank, have clerk come out and unlock storage case and give you new tank ...
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2007-01-23, 8:06am
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2007-01-23, 9:40am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taramag
DH said to stay away from Blue Rhino. It's extremely flammable.
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Blue Rhino is just a brand name..... Flammability of propane is CONSTANT between all brands. Propane may come from a hundred different sources (wholesale) , Blue Rhino buys from who ever has a supply of fuel for best price at time they need to acquire new supply.
Dale
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2007-01-23, 11:22pm
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2007-01-24, 5:29am
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ummmm....we do have a sense of humor, but not when it comes to safety.
And DH's do tend to come up with very weird comments from time to time...
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2007-01-28, 8:57am
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You never know about DHs .... I;ve seen a number who were clearly humor-impaired 
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2007-02-12, 9:00am
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Dale, I am SO confused over here. I was sold an Acetylene regulator for my bbq tank that has propane in it. The guy at the welding company said it would be fine. Well, I am getting very different stories on whether I should use it with the propane or not....even within the same company. My gas guy that came and hooked it up, said it would be fine also, HELP please. Is it really okay to use the Acetylene regulator with the propane gas? I just want to be as safe as possible.
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2007-02-12, 9:11am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameDancer
Dale, I am SO confused over here. I was sold an Acetylene regulator for my bbq tank that has propane in it. The guy at the welding company said it would be fine. Well, I am getting very different stories on whether I should use it with the propane or not....even within the same company. My gas guy that came and hooked it up, said it would be fine also, HELP please. Is it really okay to use the Acetylene regulator with the propane gas? I just want to be as safe as possible.
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It is a very common thing to use a acetylene regulator with propane... First the connector for regulators and tanks are "compatible" ... In the world of fuels & industrial gases the tank connectors are very different for different fuel/gas classes so you can only connect together compatible regulators and tanks...
A while back I queried 4 different manufacturers of "acetylene" regulators about the compatibility issues of using acetylene regulator for propane, and 2 manufacturers had courtesy to reply and state that there were no issues with compatibility, that the components used in manufacturing were acceptable to either fuel....
So, don't be confuses, accept that only difference in regulators is name of gas on gauge, and above all, enjoy melting glass.
Dale
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2007-02-12, 9:26am
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The ONLY problem that can occur is using a "used" regulator, one that previously has been used on Acetylene. There are contamination problems that can occur.
Nowadays, regulator manufacturers mark the regulator for the gas that is "most popular", typically acetylene. The threads on a propane tank and an acetylene tank are identical, therefore the confusion.
Dale -- I have to laugh every time I see that picture of the manky regulator on the first page of this thread, showing the readily apparent pipe dope (thread sealant) on the regulator to tank threads.
I shudder to think what that did to the tank, not to mention the regulator. I wonder how long that regulator actually lasted after that little episode...
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2007-02-12, 9:33am
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Thanks SO much for answering.
I did end up calling two different local gas companies and they said that they would NOT use the Acetylene regulator because of different pressure issues. They said that propane was much lower than acetylene and that something could actually blow up....oh great! Like I said, I want to be as safe as possible, especially, because there are young children around.
The welding company that sold it to me was out of the propane regulators and sold me this one instead. When I called for another part this am, a completely different person told me that I should't be using it....they both work for the same company. Go figure
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2007-02-12, 9:36am
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ROFLMAO -- <sneezebullshitsneeze>
What you want is a regulator (for either propane OR acetylene) that has a working pressure range of 0 to about 30 PSI.
There are very few acetylene regulators that go much above 60 PSI, and those are very expensive.
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2007-02-12, 9:50am
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Well, I trust you guys more than anyone else...so it stays. It does go up to 30 psi and another thing I like about it is, it has a guage on it that tells me how much gas I have left in the tank
Thanks so much you two for helping me out. I was really getting parranoid.
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2007-02-12, 9:55am
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No problem -- but it doesn't tell you how much gas you have left, it only shows the tank pressure, which isn't related to volume of gas left. The only way to be absolutely sure about how much gas you have left is to weigh the tank empty, then weigh it full.
Stamped on the carrying handle are full and empty weights, you can go by those as being "close" to the actual weights.
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2007-02-12, 2:34pm
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Quote:
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Thanks SO much for answering.
I did end up calling two different local gas companies and they said that they would NOT use the Acetylene regulator because of different pressure issues. They said that propane was much lower than acetylene and that something could actually blow up....oh great! Like I said, I want to be as safe as possible, especially, because there are young children around.
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A full acetylene tank has a pressure of about 200psi.
A propane tank has a working pressure of about 135psi (at 70°)
Output working pressure for acetylene regulator is 1 to 15 psi. ( 4-8 psi for most welding/cutting operations)...
Output working pressure for propane regulator is 1 to 20psi. (4-6 being sufficient for most small torches)
Welding people are totally lost once you start talking anything but welding...
Dale
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